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*****GUARANTEED FRESH***** Biden up five in TEXAS !!! (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2020 OP
Whoa! TexasTowelie Jul 2020 #1
MAY malaise Jul 2020 #3
Won't be long until almost safeinOhio Jul 2020 #27
Correct malaise Jul 2020 #31
Yup wryter2000 Jul 2020 #5
I'm watching the trump approval numbers at 538. They just can't seem to Squinch Jul 2020 #2
Anyone remember Hillary being up 5 in Texas? wryter2000 Jul 2020 #4
A Dem presidential candidate hasn't been up 5 in TX since Jimmy Carter.... paleotn Jul 2020 #15
I remember on Election Day Hillary 99% chance of winning and calling friends and gloating over Pepsidog Jul 2020 #34
I remember her more like 66% at 538 wryter2000 Jul 2020 #35
I think I saw it on HuffPost but I maybe wrong and it may have been a probability based on Pepsidog Jul 2020 #37
Absolutely wryter2000 Jul 2020 #40
Here's the info wryter2000 Jul 2020 #41
NOT fresh. Previously posted. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2020 #6
The one does not deny the other. professor... LanternWaste Jul 2020 #10
I never said it did. I didn't imply. I stated. Now go & post something useful, somewhere. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2020 #11
Texas is a battleground state Gothmog Jul 2020 #7
Amazing! Oh, please let it be so. Music Man Jul 2020 #8
39% of independents PatSeg Jul 2020 #23
That's what most independents are... reACTIONary Jul 2020 #36
Good poll: Likey voters and sampling error +/- 2.4 percentage points at 95% CI. honest.abe Jul 2020 #9
:o Dem2 Jul 2020 #12
The cross tabs do not suggest a bad sample. Happy Hoosier Jul 2020 #13
Exactly Corny way up but still @ 43% grantcart Jul 2020 #17
Exactly D_Master81 Jul 2020 #38
Good news but... llmart Jul 2020 #14
Yep. The dementia thing is on the repuke playlist...I know this from personal experience with CTyankee Jul 2020 #24
They might come up with something to stink Joe up Cosmocat Jul 2020 #25
The times they are a changing... paleotn Jul 2020 #16
AZ will have 2 Dem Senators and so could Montana grantcart Jul 2020 #18
That's right! paleotn Jul 2020 #20
Do NOT believe this because................. MRDAWG Jul 2020 #19
Yes. Approach with caution. Lonestarblue Jul 2020 #26
Our voting center structure allows folks to vote at any location in the county yellowdogintexas Jul 2020 #28
I believe it. 5-6% lead is near the limit where Voter Suppression becomes very difficult to hide & Tommymac Jul 2020 #29
Is the Poll accurate? Know how I know grantcart Jul 2020 #21
LOL, to show how mind boggling this is, I skimmed the topics a few times rufus dog Jul 2020 #22
Doing my happy dance - here's a Forbes link onetexan Jul 2020 #30
I'll bet the Lincoln Project ads are helping to push those numbers too. It's just too bad that some NurseJackie Jul 2020 #32
I've given $150 to them and have no plans of stopping. roamer65 Jul 2020 #39
Trump cowed their Republican governor into going against the experts. gulliver Jul 2020 #33

Squinch

(50,955 posts)
2. I'm watching the trump approval numbers at 538. They just can't seem to
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 08:57 AM
Jul 2020

get below 40%. They're at 40.1 today but I will have a happy day when I see a 3 in that number. Which hopefully will be soon.

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
34. I remember on Election Day Hillary 99% chance of winning and calling friends and gloating over
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 11:36 AM
Jul 2020

Last edited Sun Jul 12, 2020, 12:16 PM - Edit history (1)

Trump's inevitable demise. Well I ate a lot of crow for weeks after. Take nothing for granted. Ask Al Gore and John Kerry if you think polls mean anything.

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
37. I think I saw it on HuffPost but I maybe wrong and it may have been a probability based on
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 12:26 PM
Jul 2020

a variety of factors. Huffpost had a banner everyday before the election. But you get the point, we all thought, even Trump, he would lose. Michael Moore was one of the few people who could see what most couldn't. I also recall reading his article how Trump could win by running the rust belt. He called it months before the election. Besides Russia, the media, and wiki-leaks, it was Comey who put the dagger through Hillary's heart and the traitors in the NY FBI. But this time, we are taking nothing for granted, I hope. I can't take four more years if this mafia state.

Music Man

(1,184 posts)
8. Amazing! Oh, please let it be so.
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 09:35 AM
Jul 2020

The big thing that stood out to me is that Biden is winning independents 53-39% in this poll.

PatSeg

(47,501 posts)
23. 39% of independents
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 10:52 AM
Jul 2020

support Trump? Then they definitely aren't independents. Maybe republicans who choose not to admit what party they belong to?

reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)
36. That's what most independents are...
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 12:19 PM
Jul 2020

.... I've been told. "Lean X" independents vote more consistently X than do straight Xers.

Happy Hoosier

(7,314 posts)
13. The cross tabs do not suggest a bad sample.
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 10:26 AM
Jul 2020

Corny still up big. Abbot getting d3cent numbers. It’s Trump in the shitter.

If Trump loses Texas, that would be an amazing rebuke.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
17. Exactly Corny way up but still @ 43%
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 10:44 AM
Jul 2020

Bottom line isn't we win or lose TX but Republicans have to spend millions there.

Imagine Democrats having to invest in CA.

D_Master81

(1,822 posts)
38. Exactly
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 01:01 PM
Jul 2020

Texas is gravy, we won’t likely need it. But Trump will have to campaign down there while Biden can make an appearance or 2 and have Beto do the heavy lifting. With Biden as the nominee I always thought Michigan and Pennsylvania would be blue again. If Trump has to campaign in Texas, NC, Arizona and Georgia it’s going to make picking off just 1 state pretty easy I think.

llmart

(15,540 posts)
14. Good news but...
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 10:32 AM
Jul 2020

we still need to work our asses off to promote Dems on ALL levels of government. Plus, do NOT get complacent!!

The trumpanzees are out there still and they have no qualms about talking about how The Dems are "looking for everything to make Trump look bad". I actually heard two idiot guys (old and white of course) talking out loud about that at my local park yesterday. They said, "He can't get a break. The Dems keep coming up with lies about Trump." And then I heard this goodie. "Well, just wait until the debates and the people will see how awful Biden does because he has dementia."

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
24. Yep. The dementia thing is on the repuke playlist...I know this from personal experience with
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 10:55 AM
Jul 2020

a trumper. Take it to the bank.

Cosmocat

(14,566 posts)
25. They might come up with something to stink Joe up
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 11:00 AM
Jul 2020

they certainly will keep trying, because that is all the R party can do now.

But, this "dementia" thing is not not going to do it cause past their hard core base people can see 45 is hands down worse than Joe on the age/mind issue thing.

Said this about them thinking their lame China shit was going to ding Joe. Weak sauce.

Now, again, they might find something, but the only positives they are getting on this one is from within their own echo chamber.

paleotn

(17,931 posts)
16. The times they are a changing...
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 10:41 AM
Jul 2020

TX is a tossup. AZ may very well have 2 Dem Senators. SC could possibly have 2 Senators of color. Different parties, but of African decent just the same.

MRDAWG

(501 posts)
19. Do NOT believe this because.................
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 10:47 AM
Jul 2020

Calling people and asking questions does not predict the vote. WHY? Because it does not take into account voter suppression.

When the line is very long many just go home etc.

Lonestarblue

(10,011 posts)
26. Yes. Approach with caution.
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 11:00 AM
Jul 2020

Ted Cruz had high unfavorables in Texas, and he still won. Cornyn is likely to win also because of the red, red, rural and small town population, in spite of the fact that he does nothing for Texans.

The possibility for voter suppression or outright cheating is high here. In the Beto-Cruz election, the Secretary of State was aware of an issue with the voting machines in around 70 counties where voters who chose a straight Democratic ticket saw their vote from Beto switched to Cruz—the only change. Voters who did not review their final votes did not know this, and who knows how many votes went to Cruz that were intended for Beto. Voters who checked their final votes noticed the discrepancy and took photos of the ballot to share with the public. The Secretary of State called it just voter error, but this issue of switching Democratic votes to Republicans had been known with the machines for over a decade!

Here in Austin we have new voting machines. I don’t know whether the other countries have replaced their machines. But with Republican state officials in charge of elections, I’m always wary.

yellowdogintexas

(22,264 posts)
28. Our voting center structure allows folks to vote at any location in the county
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 11:07 AM
Jul 2020

We are reporting our wait times hourly to the elections office; if my lines back up, I can check in to locate nearby precincts with shorter lines and folks can go vote there.

If WI and GA are any indication, folks will not go home because they know that if they are in line they must be allowed to vote.

Add in 10 days of early voting in person and Vote By Mail for those over 65, disabled or absentee.

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
29. I believe it. 5-6% lead is near the limit where Voter Suppression becomes very difficult to hide &
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 11:16 AM
Jul 2020

pull off without raising a lot of questions.

Turnout and a 5% plus lead in some swing states made the difference between the 2004 & 2008 elections. The fix was in both years...but on Faux news Karl Rov's face was lit up by astonishment when they announced Obama was going to win and he realized turnout and a more then anticipated lead made his 2008 plans to fudge the numbers moot.

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
22. LOL, to show how mind boggling this is, I skimmed the topics a few times
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 10:51 AM
Jul 2020

It was the third or fourth time I actually clicked on the link because I processed the title as

"...Biden up in five in TEXAS"

adding the extra "in" because my brain likely couldn't process that he could be up 5 points in a poll, so I figured, he is giving some speech in TX in 5 minutes.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
32. I'll bet the Lincoln Project ads are helping to push those numbers too. It's just too bad that some
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 11:25 AM
Jul 2020

I'll bet the Lincoln Project ads are helping to push those numbers too. It's just too bad that some people are continually badmouthing the Lincoln Project, and insulting those of us who admire and appreciate their efforts.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
39. I've given $150 to them and have no plans of stopping.
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 01:04 PM
Jul 2020

This is war and we are going to fight it in TX and FL.

gulliver

(13,186 posts)
33. Trump cowed their Republican governor into going against the experts.
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 11:26 AM
Jul 2020

He's to blame for the blown reopening and the fact we are behind so many other countries. We'd be in much better shape (health- and economy-wise) if not for Trump and the Republicans who cower to and serve him.

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