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Demovictory9

(32,457 posts)
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 11:30 AM Jul 2020

Kroger Karen wont allow black woman to leave parking lot

https://www.msn.com/en-us/Lifestyle/lifestyle-buzz/kroger-karen-is-going-viral-for-using-a-stroller-to-block-a-black-woman-from-leaving-a-grocery-store-parking-lot/ar-BB15zG8y

A woman named Shaneeka Montgomery-Strickland says she was attempting to exit a Kroger parking lot when a white customer stood behind her vehicle and refused to let her leave.

The mother of three livestreamed the incident on Facebook, showing viewers the white woman and a young child positioned behind the bumper of the car.
Police officers arrived on the scene, and the two women gave statements to officers.

Montgomery-Strickland described the incident as "about the craziest thing" she'd ever experienced, pointing to racism as the cause of the encounter.

Online commenters have now dubbed the white woman in the video "Kroger Karen."
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As social-media posts capturing the problematic behavior of white women continue to circulate online, one Michigan woman has earned herself the online nickname "Kroger Karen" after standing behind a Black woman's car in a Kroger parking lot and blocking the fellow shopper from exiting the premises.
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Kroger Karen wont allow black woman to leave parking lot (Original Post) Demovictory9 Jul 2020 OP
Link doesn't work for me. yardwork Jul 2020 #1
.. Demovictory9 Jul 2020 #2
Weird story jimfields33 Jul 2020 #3
Less weird, and more despicable wrapped in racism. LanternWaste Jul 2020 #19
Maybe Montgomery-Strickland should have pulled a gun on her. Oh, wait. She's black. Never mind StarfishSaver Jul 2020 #4
The cops don't know what law's been broken? How about Unlawful Detention? TheBlackAdder Jul 2020 #5
Probably not if they were able to walk away unblock Jul 2020 #7
It restricted the customers freedom to leave by their own lawful accord. LanternWaste Jul 2020 #20
harder argument, at a minimum. unblock Jul 2020 #22
Crazy stupid trash should be identified dalton99a Jul 2020 #6
So stupid she takes off her mask so doxing her will be easier? The stupid, it burns! winstars Jul 2020 #13
She's TOO YOUNG to be a karen. Her contemporaries are Ilsa Jul 2020 #18
Cell phone videos are exposing racism in more ways than just... brush Jul 2020 #8
Michigan. Tipperary Jul 2020 #9
Yes racism is a big problem here gollygee Jul 2020 #12
I'm trying to follow this gollygee Jul 2020 #10
OK. that's pretty crazy stopdiggin Jul 2020 #15
No charges? Try disorderly conduct or disturbing the peace. nt NutmegYankee Jul 2020 #11
+1 dalton99a Jul 2020 #14
Using a child in stroller to block a car is child endangerment. roamer65 Jul 2020 #16
What's the deal with the women lately? Buckeye_Democrat Jul 2020 #17
It seems to me that white people assume that they are smart and... DSandra Jul 2020 #21

jimfields33

(15,820 posts)
3. Weird story
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 11:44 AM
Jul 2020

A kid gets up on a shelf to get an item and this woman gets all upset? Is it her shelf? No. If the kids falls off, is it her fault? No. Definitely not her business or even a matter to this escalation. Just plain weird.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
4. Maybe Montgomery-Strickland should have pulled a gun on her. Oh, wait. She's black. Never mind
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 11:49 AM
Jul 2020

We've seen a white woman in similar situations pull a gun on a black woman her car (after she nearly ran her over) - and some people here actually defend it.

We all know that if Montgomery-Strickland had reacted in a similar way, she'd probably be dead now.

unblock

(52,253 posts)
7. Probably not if they were able to walk away
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 12:18 PM
Jul 2020

Unlawful detention usually involves preventing someone from leaving an area at all, not just in their preferred mode of transportation.

There's room for civil action, certainly if the delay caused food to spoil or for them to be late for an appointment.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
20. It restricted the customers freedom to leave by their own lawful accord.
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 06:24 PM
Jul 2020

As their vehicle is part and parcel of their own lawful accord, it can be validly argued as unlawful detention.
From that, the aggressor "coerces or exerts influence over the victim with the intent to cause the victim to remain with the actor for an unreasonable period of time under the circumstances"

unblock

(52,253 posts)
22. harder argument, at a minimum.
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 06:42 PM
Jul 2020

that said, they certainly arrest people for less at times. e.g., for peacefully protesting or even heckling politicians. with the intent of never actually charging them, sometimes.

who called the police? if the aggressor called the police, thinking they had witnessed a crime or child endangerment, and was only trying to detain them long enough for the police to sort it out, it's kinda hard for the police to see that as criminal.

i guess the question was could the police believe the aggressor was merely an idiot or was being malicious in calling the police, assuming she's the one who did so?

if the aggressor didn't call the police, and it's not clear how long she was trying to prevent the other people from leaving, then yeah, it looks more like false imprisonment or unlawful detention.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
18. She's TOO YOUNG to be a karen. Her contemporaries are
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 05:40 PM
Jul 2020

Melissas, Jessicas, Ashleys, and Jennifers.

brush

(53,787 posts)
8. Cell phone videos are exposing racism in more ways than just...
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 12:20 PM
Jul 2020

police brutality. What is with these entitled "karens" who think they can impose their will on black people trying to just go about their lives?

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
12. Yes racism is a big problem here
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 12:25 PM
Jul 2020

though I think it's probably a big problem throughout the US. But the Detroit area is the most racially segregated in the US.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
10. I'm trying to follow this
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 12:23 PM
Jul 2020

So this woman saw a little boy step on a shelf, and followed the family to their car and refused to let the family leave because she was apparently the CEO or queen of the store or something and was in a position to do something or have an opinion about a kid stepping on a shelf?

stopdiggin

(11,316 posts)
15. OK. that's pretty crazy
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 04:30 PM
Jul 2020

What was the woman looking for? An apology? What result or resolution is expected? Wouldn't an approach to store personnel be the usual course of action? This another instance of -- not only racism, but just plain ODD.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
16. Using a child in stroller to block a car is child endangerment.
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 04:49 PM
Jul 2020

Michigan child protective services need to get involved. The child needs to be removed from the home.

DSandra

(999 posts)
21. It seems to me that white people assume that they are smart and...
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 06:38 PM
Jul 2020

that other races are not as smart as them, so they feel the freedom to impose their opinions and ideas on people of other races. I get irked seeing how overconfident so many white people are of themselves and their opinions. White people need to learn some humility. Many white people still have the colonial conqueror mindset.

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