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kairos12

(12,862 posts)
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 12:04 PM Jul 2020

Presidential Debates

I hope the Biden team is taking into consideration the unique nature of the upcoming debates with Hair Fuhrer. That is, how to contend with an opponent who will lie and obfuscate throughout the debate. Unfortunately, I think the MSM media is afraid of being called out for "fact checking" Chump on the spot.

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cyclonefence

(4,483 posts)
1. I will never forget Trump's brilliant exchange with Hillary Clinton during the debates
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 12:07 PM
Jul 2020

Clinton: "You're Putin's puppet."

Trump: "I'm not the puppet. *You're* the puppet."

Formidable.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
2. Should rename the debates -- "Presidential Comedy Hour"
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 12:17 PM
Jul 2020

All Biden has to do is

* mention the 5 bankrupcies
* the civil fraud cases for his "university" and "family foundation"
* the stupidity of drinking bleach
* doing nothing to retaliate for Russians paying bounties to kill our troops
* Individual-1

and that's just for starters

3. There aren't going to be any debates.
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 12:46 PM
Jul 2020

Trump has already threatened to boycott the traditional debates "because the questioners are biased against me." He said he'd considered a debate run by a "neutral company" with "fair moderators." Who gets to decide what qualifies a person as a "fair moderator"? Three guesses...

brush

(53,785 posts)
6. If anyone saw trump on Hannity recently being interviewed...
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 01:52 PM
Jul 2020

knows that trump will have problems. Hannity gave him the floor to explain his plans/agenda for his next term. trump went off first on a tangent about the word "experience" and how it's so important. He then moved to how he got elected and was new to DC and didn't know anybody but now knows everybody and sometimes you make mistakes, like hiring somebody like Bolton.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/06/trump-hannity-interview-full-of-unintelligible-rambling.html

It was absolute nuts/word salad that didn't go anywhere close to plans for a second term.

Biden will be fine as he's shown before he can hold his own quite well in debates (he destroyed Ryan in the 2012 VP debate, and he handled Sanders handily in the debate the two top Dems candidates had a few months back).

trump will of course lie and fact checking by the moderators would be nice but might not even come into play that much as trump will go off on tangents unrelated to their questions. He's nowhere near the same cognitively as he was in the 2016 debates with Hillary and he wasn't great then.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,107 posts)
7. IMO, there should not be any debates.
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 02:03 PM
Jul 2020

What good does it do to argue with a known liar. The moderators will not rein in the OrangeAnus. They will not fact check him on the spot. I think they will do more harm than good because all the networks hope to achieve is a "good show".

kairos12

(12,862 posts)
9. I tend to agree.
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 02:07 PM
Jul 2020

Any "debate" requires the fair rendering of facts. Chump won't do this and the MSM will be watching for any mistake by Biden. Chump will get a pass and not try fact checking his vomitus of lies.

It will be a process story to be used against Biden. The MSM does not want a landslide election they only want a horse race to boost their ratings.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,107 posts)
10. Bingo. ANY misstep by Mr Biden will be magnified 100x while they will let
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 04:53 PM
Jul 2020

the lies by OrangeAnus slide right on by.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
8. It'll be interesting to see if Chump tries his stalking routine
Sun Jul 12, 2020, 02:04 PM
Jul 2020

against Biden as he did with Hillary. Hillary soldiered on allowing Chump to make an ass of himself, but I'd bet Biden would call him out on his nonsense.

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