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mdmc

(29,069 posts)
Sun Jan 8, 2012, 10:32 AM Jan 2012

I must admit, I do not support the drug war as it currently stands

I understand that there will always be a "drug war", as kids and criminals continue to want to use drugs and alcohol in a waay that society opposes.

We can run a better drug war by legalizing and regulating drugs and alcohol.

I dig seeing a candidate for president that feels the same way.

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I must admit, I do not support the drug war as it currently stands (Original Post) mdmc Jan 2012 OP
Unfortunately, BiggJawn Jan 2012 #1
very true my friend.. mdmc Jan 2012 #3
Legalizing and regulating CERTAIN drugs. FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #2
what is better left unregulated? mdmc Jan 2012 #4
Marijuana/Hashish should be legal but most others should be taken off the streets. FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #5
Then the war goes on. BiggJawn Jan 2012 #6
But why encourage it? Look how bad alcohol has been to society. FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #8
The failure to imprison people is not encouragement cthulu2016 Jan 2012 #9
Why not a gubernatorial candidate? treestar Jan 2012 #7

BiggJawn

(23,051 posts)
1. Unfortunately,
Sun Jan 8, 2012, 11:06 AM
Jan 2012

The only one currently who thinks like that is that nutcase throw-back Ron Paul.

I still don't understand why the GOP allows a Libertarian to run for President.

FarLeftFist

(6,161 posts)
2. Legalizing and regulating CERTAIN drugs.
Sun Jan 8, 2012, 11:12 AM
Jan 2012

Alot of that shit needs to stay illegal and taken off the streets IMHO.

mdmc

(29,069 posts)
4. what is better left unregulated?
Sun Jan 8, 2012, 11:27 AM
Jan 2012

I'm interested in knowing where you, farleftfist , would draw the line.

FarLeftFist

(6,161 posts)
5. Marijuana/Hashish should be legal but most others should be taken off the streets.
Sun Jan 8, 2012, 11:47 AM
Jan 2012

I guess mushrooms would be legal as well.

BiggJawn

(23,051 posts)
6. Then the war goes on.
Sun Jan 8, 2012, 12:49 PM
Jan 2012

Some of this stuff, like Meth, "Spice", and so-called "Bath Salts" are responses to other drugs being made illegal. End the "War", and the demand for these crappy poisonous analogs disappears.

Leave them illegal, and the war goes ever on. "We have always been at war with Ecstasy..."

I say that drugs would self-regulate in much the same matter alcohol does, that is, people who cannot or will not moderate their use eventually remove themselves from the equation.

FarLeftFist

(6,161 posts)
8. But why encourage it? Look how bad alcohol has been to society.
Sun Jan 8, 2012, 01:00 PM
Jan 2012

I'm not preaching, I too drink on occasion myself, but think of all the innocent people that have died because of alcohol alone.

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
9. The failure to imprison people is not encouragement
Sun Jan 8, 2012, 01:02 PM
Jan 2012

Does society encourage communism by failing to ban books by Marx?

We, as a nation, now start with the frame that everything is presumptively illegal and thus decriminalizing a thing is an endorsement of it.

But our theory of law is, or is supposed to be, that all things are presumptively permited and that in a few cases things are banned (like murder, as the easiest example) because the bad effect on the public good is overwhelming.

Even when anti-drug laws exist the burden is still on the illegalization side. The burden of proof is on the law 24/7. Forever.

Or at least it is supposed to be.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
7. Why not a gubernatorial candidate?
Sun Jan 8, 2012, 12:52 PM
Jan 2012

Or several state legislative candidates? Because that's what it would take.

The POTUS could be Ron Paul himself, and drugs would stay illegal.

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