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mfcorey1

(11,001 posts)
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 06:22 AM Jul 2020

Flight delay melee: Spirit passengers arrested after kicking and punching employees and tossing pho

Nobody likes flight delays but a trio of Spirit Airlines passengers had a violent reaction when their flight from Fort Lauderdale to Philadelphia was delayed late Tuesday.

Three female passengers from Philadelphia, all in their early 20s, started assaulting five Spirit employees at Gate G14, according to police reports from the Broward County Sheriff's Office.

"The defendants intentionally struck the victims against their will with miscellaneous items, such as phones, shoes, full water bottles, metal boarding signs and fast food,'' according to police reports from the Broward County Sheriff's Office. "The victims were also punched and kicked in different sections of their bodies numerous times by the listed defendants.''

The incident was captured on video, which was first reported by a Miami television station.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/airline-news/2020/07/15/spirit-airlines-passengers-arrested-assaulting-workers-over-delay/5444128002/?fbclid=IwAR0zPnKrT_IfgrSpdQlv1O_8ZRa30Ev7Nb2xQPeXghntAToQ_J5ZdD5Rxbk

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Flight delay melee: Spirit passengers arrested after kicking and punching employees and tossing pho (Original Post) mfcorey1 Jul 2020 OP
Future "Karens" perhaps PJMcK Jul 2020 #1
I'm guessing alcohol was involved Blues Heron Jul 2020 #2
Not likely. Mariana Jul 2020 #33
true dat Blues Heron Jul 2020 #34
Not Karens apparently. Tipperary Jul 2020 #3
Welcome to the no-fly list, morons Grokenstein Jul 2020 #5
+1 Baitball Blogger Jul 2020 #31
20, 22 and 23 and banned for LIFE from ALL airlines? Hortensis Jul 2020 #38
The people calling these women Karens prove the point of those who hate the term obamanut2012 Jul 2020 #4
Spot on. Tipperary Jul 2020 #7
I'm confused about your point ecstatic Jul 2020 #8
"Unfair to MAGAts?" Nope. Tipperary Jul 2020 #9
But you are saying that DUers let black people off for bad behaviour muriel_volestrangler Jul 2020 #12
Am I? Tipperary Jul 2020 #21
Yes; in answer to "The young women are black" you said muriel_volestrangler Jul 2020 #27
Uh huh. Tipperary Jul 2020 #30
Anyone of any race who acts like that is fair game cwydro Jul 2020 #10
They were arrested. Kingofalldems Jul 2020 #15
Hey boo. Tipperary Jul 2020 #22
Exactly. MrsCoffee Jul 2020 #25
I see the problem now. There must be a group here that has narrowed the definition. Baitball Blogger Jul 2020 #32
It very quickly became a noisy dogwhistle for racism against white women Hortensis Jul 2020 #39
Imagine being stuck on a plane with then if they don't know lindysalsagal Jul 2020 #6
Ban them from flying JI7 Jul 2020 #11
Video shows passengers attack airline workers at Fort Lauderdale airport Celerity Jul 2020 #13
Do people think the people working there are the ones who just randomly decide to cancel and delay JI7 Jul 2020 #14
I don't believe that these women "think," to be honest. cwydro Jul 2020 #26
If you have ever flown Spirit you might understand voteearlyvoteoften Jul 2020 #16
I saw that there have been other fights. But yeah, it's not an excuse and the best way JI7 Jul 2020 #17
"struck the victims against their will"? mantis49 Jul 2020 #18
Assault and battery statutes are sometimes phrased in terms of "unwanted physical contact". Fozzledick Jul 2020 #28
When you fly Spirit mercuryblues Jul 2020 #19
Guess who is going to find herself on the no fly list? mnhtnbb Jul 2020 #20
Ah, Spirit..... marmar Jul 2020 #23
Yeah, no way would I fly these discount airlines. cwydro Jul 2020 #24
These women are assholes. There is NO justification for what they did. OregonBlue Jul 2020 #29
Florida brings their crap with them wherever they go. Initech Jul 2020 #35
I think those women were from Philly. Tipperary Jul 2020 #36
I've never customerserviceguy Jul 2020 #37

PJMcK

(22,037 posts)
1. Future "Karens" perhaps
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 06:34 AM
Jul 2020

Without the blonde bowl haircuts, I guess!

These young women are idiots. Don't they realize that airports are governed by Federal laws? They have really screwed themselves legally and I hope they face the most severe punishments their transgressions allow.

By the way, all airlines should ban them for life.

Where do people get the idea they can use physical force to get on a plane?

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
3. Not Karens apparently.
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 07:10 AM
Jul 2020

But assholes just the same. Obviously very well brought up young ladies.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
38. 20, 22 and 23 and banned for LIFE from ALL airlines?
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 02:07 PM
Jul 2020
Com'on. Can't have Nana, nasty old witch that she might be, unable to go see her latest grandchild because she threw shoes and slapped airline clerks 50 years earlier. Now, of course, if she continued...

Good guess this acting out arises from the "spiritus mundi." Lots of mean stupidity in the air, and it's as catching as Covid. Then, they're all adolescents, not biological adults.

And, no excuse, but a possible further explanation, given their aggressive hostility before they even progressed to violence, I think it's a pretty good bet they, or at least the leading two, are culturally conservative by nature, and pretty strongly. Those're the ones behind probably 90% or more of this kind of behavior, and all skin colors are finding a lot of encouragement for it.

No doubt they have family who'll be involved in rescuing them from their mess. Btw, this story is in all their home media and farther, like the WaPo. No matter who pays the fines, they won't be getting off free. Or flying on this airline for a long time to come.

obamanut2012

(26,080 posts)
4. The people calling these women Karens prove the point of those who hate the term
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 07:54 AM
Jul 2020

The young women are black, not white.

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
7. Spot on.
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 07:58 AM
Jul 2020

Excellent observation.

Of course this thread will fall like a stone for that very reason. If they were white idiots wearing MAGA hats, the thread would be a keeper for days lol.

ecstatic

(32,712 posts)
8. I'm confused about your point
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 08:15 AM
Jul 2020

I don't want to jump to conclusions, but are you (and the person you responded to) saying that DUers are unfair to MAGAts and that the same amount of scorn and derision should be applied to black people?

muriel_volestrangler

(101,322 posts)
12. But you are saying that DUers let black people off for bad behaviour
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 08:42 AM
Jul 2020

You're right, it's not difficult to figure out what you're saying.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,322 posts)
27. Yes; in answer to "The young women are black" you said
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 10:21 AM
Jul 2020

"Of course this thread will fall like a stone for that very reason. If they were white idiots wearing MAGA hats, the thread would be a keeper for days lol."

It's not really a "take", so much as a summary of your words. I didn't include how you find it funny.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
10. Anyone of any race who acts like that is fair game
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 08:25 AM
Jul 2020

for scorn and derision imo.

I hope their names are flagged on every airline database.

Baitball Blogger

(46,737 posts)
32. I see the problem now. There must be a group here that has narrowed the definition.
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 01:26 PM
Jul 2020

Though the term works for white racist women who over-dramatize their racism, it can just as easily apply to improper, uncivil behavior. Lord knows we see too much of that. And, I've also seen the term "Karen" applied to men.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
39. It very quickly became a noisy dogwhistle for racism against white women
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 02:29 PM
Jul 2020

and also for misogyny. That collective white guilt meme going round a bridge from nasty miscrents to all wide enough to drive a 747 over.

I've said before that it injures black women because it's racist and because they are women. They can't achieve equality and what should be complete acceptance as people while racist attitudes toward them are encouraged by free indulgence of racism against other targets. OR while women are targets of special bigotry and discrimination. And black women are extra special targets, abused over white women, black men, and white men.

In any case, the racism and misogyny of this smear quickly became so strong that I don't see how use could be "normalized" to some kind of respectability. (Even if it weren't fundamentally mean to real Karens.) No matter how many badly behaved black men a crusader tried to get "Karen" to stick to, it's not going to happen. And imo very much for the best.


JI7

(89,252 posts)
14. Do people think the people working there are the ones who just randomly decide to cancel and delay
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 08:53 AM
Jul 2020

flights ?

voteearlyvoteoften

(1,716 posts)
16. If you have ever flown Spirit you might understand
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 09:18 AM
Jul 2020

I’m in the never again club. They gave us voucher for free flight and we did not redeem.
Trevor Noah mocks them often and I would say for good reason. Lol Spirit.
( Def not excusing abhorrent behavior )

JI7

(89,252 posts)
17. I saw that there have been other fights. But yeah, it's not an excuse and the best way
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 09:21 AM
Jul 2020

to deal with it is to avoid flying them again in the future. And you certainly don't attack the people working there who aren't the ones making decisions on delays and cancelled flights.

Fozzledick

(3,860 posts)
28. Assault and battery statutes are sometimes phrased in terms of "unwanted physical contact".
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 11:24 AM
Jul 2020

People who engage in full-contact sports like boxing and martial arts or S&M are often struck willingly and therefore legally.

mercuryblues

(14,532 posts)
19. When you fly Spirit
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 09:45 AM
Jul 2020

or any of those discount airlines, you know what you are going to get.

I found out the hard way, flying across country on Frontier. Would I fly them again? Yes, but only on a short flight.

mnhtnbb

(31,394 posts)
20. Guess who is going to find herself on the no fly list?
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 09:48 AM
Jul 2020

They better rent a car and start driving.

There is a time and place for anger and assaulting airline employees is not on the list.

OregonBlue

(7,754 posts)
29. These women are assholes. There is NO justification for what they did.
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 11:39 AM
Jul 2020

Unless someone from the airlines assaulted them first or hurled racist insults, they have no excuses.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
37. I've never
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 01:49 PM
Jul 2020

flown on Spirit, but from what I've heard about them, it is no surprise that they attract a lower class of fliers.

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