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MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 11:09 AM Jul 2020

The IRS Can Be Very, Very Efficient.

It can also be very, very slow to act. It all depends on the direction the money is flowing.

For example, I filed my 2019 taxes on July 14, paying through direct withdrawal. At 5 A.M. on July 15, the money was already gone from my checking account.

On the other hand, some who filed their taxes early or on April 15, are still waiting for their refund checks.

It's funny how that works, isn't it?

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The IRS Can Be Very, Very Efficient. (Original Post) MineralMan Jul 2020 OP
In your case, you did all the accounting work for them FakeNoose Jul 2020 #1
True. The entire thing was automated, with no human action MineralMan Jul 2020 #2
Also, all paper tax returns are thrown into giant shipping containers until COVID is over. lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #17
I filed my taxes on March 23, and got my refunds, PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2020 #3
I got my state in about two weeks, mail. Not my Fed. LizBeth Jul 2020 #5
I filed April 2 and have not gotten my return. Do you think I have to figure there is a problem? Or LizBeth Jul 2020 #4
Paper or e-file? Paper returns won't be opened until COVID is over. lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #18
My son did turbo April 2 but I do not have deposit info so need a check mailed to me. LizBeth Jul 2020 #21
I'll see how long it takes them to cash my check MissB Jul 2020 #6
And my filing on July 5th BBG Jul 2020 #7
And the same or faster speed! lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #19
"For example, I filed my 2019 taxes on July 14, paying through direct withdrawal." mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2020 #8
As one who worked there OUAT.... lastlib Jul 2020 #9
Manual entry of tax filings has always led to errors. MineralMan Jul 2020 #10
Yeah and look at poor Donald Trump still under audit after all these years... jcgoldie Jul 2020 #11
He's probly refusing to turn over documents...... lastlib Jul 2020 #15
some audits take years, decades even, some take months. maxsolomon Jul 2020 #12
"Money comes in, money goes out, can't explain that!" hatrack Jul 2020 #16
We filed more than four months ago gratuitous Jul 2020 #13
So mine was April 2 turbo. We should start a thread. Good to hear what you have to say. LizBeth Jul 2020 #22
I agree it is just wrong. I am ok too, but we should get our money in reasonable time. They have LizBeth Jul 2020 #23
Mr. Bayard filed taxes in March Bayard Jul 2020 #14
My 2019 tax has my new address but didn't get in to change address for stimulus. I went on a site LizBeth Jul 2020 #25
Like stores. KatyMan Jul 2020 #20
Filed back in February DeminPennswoods Jul 2020 #24

FakeNoose

(32,645 posts)
1. In your case, you did all the accounting work for them
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 11:14 AM
Jul 2020

That's why they acted so quickly. When other people fill out forms by hand, maybe even write a check to the IRS by hand, it all has to be entered into a computer by someone the old-fashioned way. The IRS is extremely short-handed on their data entry staffing and they're also hobbled by the pandemic like everyone else. It will take them years to get caught up, is my guess.



lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
17. Also, all paper tax returns are thrown into giant shipping containers until COVID is over.
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 12:59 PM
Jul 2020

Like a time capsule. They might be opened sometime during the Lance-Bottoms administration.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,862 posts)
3. I filed my taxes on March 23, and got my refunds,
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 11:26 AM
Jul 2020

both state and federal, deposited in less than a week. Lucky me.

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
4. I filed April 2 and have not gotten my return. Do you think I have to figure there is a problem? Or
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 11:44 AM
Jul 2020

Last edited Thu Jul 16, 2020, 01:10 PM - Edit history (1)

They just have not gotten to them yet? I haven't tried getting a hold of them figuring the stimulus had them putting mine to the side, but yes. My refund is in limbo whereas if it was money owed, they would demand, now.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
18. Paper or e-file? Paper returns won't be opened until COVID is over.
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 01:00 PM
Jul 2020

I hope you aren't waiting on a big refund.

MissB

(15,810 posts)
6. I'll see how long it takes them to cash my check
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 11:47 AM
Jul 2020

We almost always owe the feds (it’s a small amount of total taxes owed; no penalty or fee associated with the amounts we owe each year).

I always write a check, and mail it along with my return on the due date.

I understand they are short staffed so who knows how long they will take to cash the check.

BBG

(2,539 posts)
7. And my filing on July 5th
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 11:47 AM
Jul 2020

Had refund deposited yesterday morning, July 15. Not too shabby timing in my opinion.

And as a citizen I kinda like that next day harvesting of funds they performed on your account. Now if we could just get the one percenters taxed at the same or higher rate.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,499 posts)
8. "For example, I filed my 2019 taxes on July 14, paying through direct withdrawal."
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 11:48 AM
Jul 2020

I paid on July 14 too, but I have yet to file. I need to print some stuff, and that will take a while. I have until October 15 to file.

Annual rant: why can't I file directly with the IRS and not be shuttled off to a third party for filing?

Oh, I know the answer. But if I were prez, this is one of the things I'd go after. Everyone who files should be able to do so directly, without having to hand over sensitive information to a commercial outfit.

lastlib

(23,248 posts)
9. As one who worked there OUAT....
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 11:51 AM
Jul 2020

I can tell you stories.
First let me tell you about the million-dollar check I found on the floor. It had slid under a desk three weeks earlier. I had to hand-carry it--WITH a security guard--down to the cash unit where they process checks, where it was rather promptly logged and sent for deposit.
I will also tell you that it still amazes me that refund checks ever get OUT of there. I know things are a lot different now than when I worked there, given the advent of electronic filing. When I was there in the late '80s, the entire facility had fewer than a dozen PCs, the now-primitive IBM XTs. So much was done manually, it was mind-boggling. I'm sure much is improved now, but there are still a lot of rabbit-holes that any one of thirty million returns can get lost in.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
10. Manual entry of tax filings has always led to errors.
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 12:06 PM
Jul 2020

One year, someone mistakenly entered the wrong amount in some field for my California state income taxes. That resulted in my getting a refund check for about $2500. In reality, I owed about $200, and had enclosed a check, which was quickly deposited by the state.

What to do? I made a phone call to the state department and tried to explain what had happened to someone. I knew what erroneous number had been typed and in which field, since I looked back into the return to see what might have happened. Anyhow, the person I talked to had no idea what to do about their error.

I decided not to do anything at all, I pinned the $2500 check to the wall of my office and saw it there for about 8 years. I never deposited it, but just hung on to it in case the state caught the error. They never did catch it, so I tossed the check out when we moved from California to Minnesota.

I was afraid that I'd end up in an endless cycle of correspondence if I tried to return the excess payment. All of that from an error in data entry by someone working in some office somewhere.

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
11. Yeah and look at poor Donald Trump still under audit after all these years...
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 12:09 PM
Jul 2020

Presidential Harrassment!!

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
12. some audits take years, decades even, some take months.
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 12:11 PM
Jul 2020

sometimes they decide to give cults tax-exempt status because they're being harassed and intimidated, sometimes they decide to review the tax-exempt status of universities who contradict republican ideology.

it's so weird! no one can understand it - it's like the tides!

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
13. We filed more than four months ago
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 12:21 PM
Jul 2020

Still waiting on our refund. Called the IRS just this past Monday. Got a very nice person on the line after a couple of attempts and about an hour and a half combined time waiting on hold. We were told that the IRS is very slammed right now (so's everyone else, sister), there's a large backlog, low staffing, and they will be processing things in the order received beginning August 1. From that time, it should be only another 4 to 6 weeks before our refund is deposited.

Thankfully, we're not in dire need of the refund. All our bills are up to date, I'm working remotely and still drawing full pay, while my wife is on a half-time schedule. But if the situation wasn't quite so serene, this would be intolerable, and I'd be on the phone to my Representative and both Senators every other day for a little constituent service.

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
22. So mine was April 2 turbo. We should start a thread. Good to hear what you have to say.
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 01:15 PM
Jul 2020

I get 1k back and pretty straight forward. Can't see where there would be question anywhere. Mine is a check, not auto deposit. So maybe that held it up as they were starting to push stimulus out. I figured I would wait for the end of July after the July 15 deadline. I haven't wanted to bother trying to call yet.

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
23. I agree it is just wrong. I am ok too, but we should get our money in reasonable time. They have
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 01:16 PM
Jul 2020

time to take people's money.

Bayard

(22,100 posts)
14. Mr. Bayard filed taxes in March
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 12:24 PM
Jul 2020

Still no refund, and no stimulus check either. IRS website says that was mailed out in Mid-May. You can't talk to a live person anymore.

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
25. My 2019 tax has my new address but didn't get in to change address for stimulus. I went on a site
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 01:18 PM
Jul 2020

that should it was my old address. I went to old place and talked to mailman, manager of apt, and PO to put in another change of address. The change of address caught it and sent to my new address. It was a lot of work. But I have not received refund.

KatyMan

(4,198 posts)
20. Like stores.
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 01:06 PM
Jul 2020

Spend $100 at home depot, put it on your debit card, and 100 bucks is gone from your account the next day. Go back the next day and return the item and it takes up to a week to get your money back.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
24. Filed back in February
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 01:17 PM
Jul 2020

Final federal tax return for my late mother. Had to call local congressman to get status. Staffer found the IRS has it, but still waiting to be processed and on the refund that fortunately don't need.

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