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President Donald Trump has used his pardon power sparingly, but overwhelmingly to benefit his friends and to protect his own interests. Former George W. Bush Administration official Jack Goldsmith recently analyzed Trump's pardons for Lawfare and concluded that "no president in American history comes close to matching Trump's systematically self-serving use of the pardon power."
Indeed, as Trump nears the end of his first (and perhaps only) term in office, he has wielded the pardon power more boldly than ever. Even by his own established standards of cronyism, Trump broke new ground last week by commuting the sentence of his longtime political adviser Roger Stone -- for crimes that Stone committed to protect Trump.
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Now, there's only one remaining line that Trump has not yet crossed. Brace yourself because it might well happen soon: the first-ever presidential self-pardon. Mechanically, Trump would have to issue such a pardon while he still holds office. And the pardon would need to give him coverage for anything he has done in the past. It would be as if Richard Nixon -- rather than resigning and receiving a blanket pardon from his successor, Gerald Ford -- simply tried to pardon himself on his way out of the White House.
Trump has ample incentive to preemptively save his own hide with a pardon (or, at least, to try). Although current Justice Department policy counsels against indicting a sitting president, the memo setting forth the policy notes repeatedly that a president can be indicted after leaving office. Special Counsel Robert Mueller pointedly stated in his report and Congressional testimony that a president can be indicted after leaving office.
Would a presidential self-pardon be lawful? The short answer is we don't know for sure, because no president has ever tried it. The Constitution itself does not specify either way and there is no statute or case law on the issue. But you can already see the battle lines forming.
Trump certainly believes he can pardon himself. He tweeted in June 2018, "As has been stated by numerous legal scholars, I have the absolute right to PARDON myself, but why would I do that when I have done nothing wrong?" Indeed, some legal scholars believe that the President can issue a self-pardon, pointing to the text of the Constitution itself -- which places no such limit on the pardon power.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/16/opinions/will-trump-try-to-self-pardon-honig/index.html
I would not put it past him.
C_U_L8R
(45,003 posts)If there is a next president.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)He's dead meat; on his way to Mar-A-Gitmo.
SWBTATTReg
(22,143 posts)the idiot is out of office do I think that the wheels of justice will roll on and nail the PINO then. Until then, there is nothing to pardon to use the pardon for, I would think. Perhaps I'm wrong.
bluewater
(5,376 posts)Sorta a get out of jail free card for any and everything Nixon did that might have been a crime?
Oh, he actually did, here's a link:
Q: Can a president issue a blanket pardon to an individual for crimes that may have been committed in the past but have not yet been discovered?
A: Yes. Thats just what Gerald Ford did when he granted a full, free, and absolute pardon to Richard Nixon for crimes he has committed or may have committed while in office.
https://www.factcheck.org/2008/06/blanket-pardons/
SWBTATTReg
(22,143 posts)also, I don't recall what kind of pardon Ford gave either. It's been too long for my feeble memory to recall. Thanks. I did grab this little tidbit of information on Ford's pardon, but this was Ford for Nixon, not rump for rump pardon. And the pardon did cover anything while president too (and Ford did take some grief for this pardon too)...
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The pardon of Richard Nixon (Proclamation 4311 ) on September 8, 1974, by President Gerald Ford granted Nixon, Ford's predecessor as president, a full and unconditional pardon for any crimes he might have committed against the United States while president. In particular, the pardon covered Nixon's actions during the Watergate scandal.
Raven123
(4,851 posts)Everyone was so tired of Watergate and wanted to move on. With Trump, there is more unknown than known. Taken to its logical conclusion, a president can do anything and then pardon himself before leaving office. I really think (or I at least hope) SCOTUS would deny that to be the intent of the Constitution. It isnt even the plain text. How can one be pardoned if not previously convicted?
louis-t
(23,295 posts)"Lots of people. Important people."
NCjack
(10,279 posts)AleksS
(1,665 posts)I hereby pardon myself for anything I ever did, and anything I ever will do.
malchickiwick
(1,474 posts)The kind of blanket thing that Ford gave Nixon. It won't shield him from state prosecutors though.
bluewater
(5,376 posts)That would pretty much kill Pence's own Presidential aspirations, wouldn't it?
leftieNanner
(15,124 posts)That Pence showed that he does, indeed, possess a spine.
Ass Face resigns, with the understanding that Pence will pardon him
Pence decides not to.
Oops.
malchickiwick
(1,474 posts)Pardoning the turd emperor would help keep cleetus on his side. And don't forget, Ford still won his party's nom after pardoning dick nixon.
Jeebo
(2,025 posts)Even if he is able to pardon himself, or resign on Jan. 19 so that Pence can pardon him before noon on Jan. 20, a presidential pardon will protect him only from federal charges. A presidential pardon would not apply to state charges. And the state of New York is coming after him right now. That's what that Supreme Court case last week was about.
-- Ron
bluewater
(5,376 posts)PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,862 posts)It would fit in with his delusional thinking, such as claiming he has the absolute right to do so.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)and Barr will do a Pardon a day before Biden is Sworn.
Sneederbunk
(14,291 posts)Although it will not help him in state cases.
Yeehah
(4,588 posts)I would hope the more sane members of the USSC would have a problem with a president pardoning himself. I don't think a pardon could be granted if there wasn't an indictment. So, if there is any semblance of the "rule of law" remaining in the US, Trump is screwed after he leaves office.
randr
(12,412 posts)Then Pence will pardon him as Ford did for Nixon.