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CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
3. I think protection of the Federal Building(s) that are the focal point of the continuing rioting
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 06:07 PM
Jul 2020

give the some level of authority.

https://www.kgw.com/article/news/investigations/who-are-these-federal-officers-sent-to-portland-to-deal-with-protesters/283-b2c3b375-cd6a-4e8a-b2c3-25cbbb911335

“Who are these federal officers?
Four federal law enforcement agencies including U.S. Marshals, Federal Protective Service, U.S. Customs and Border Protection and Homeland Security Investigations have rotated officers through Portland since early July. The U.S. Marshals Service is the lead agency. It’s not clear how many federal officers are currently in Portland to help with protests. In addition to uniformed law enforcement, court records indicate plain-clothed federal agents have also been working the crowd.

What are they protecting?
Federal officers are protecting federal property and personnel in downtown Portland including the Mark. O Hatfield federal courthouse, Pioneer Courthouse, the Edith Green-Wendell Wyatt Federal Building and Terry Schrunk Plaza. Local federal officers don’t have enough people to secure all federal buildings.

“We needed some assistance and got that assistance,” said Billy Williams, U.S. Attorney for Oregon. "

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
5. If they are protecting fed property they should be standing guard at those properties...
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 06:13 PM
Jul 2020

not roaming the streets in mini vans.

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
7. I suspect that they are. That federal building has been a focal point.
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 06:59 PM
Jul 2020

It was broken into on the first night weeks ago and a fire was started inside the building. The exterior of the building and surrounding buildings have been vandalized as well.
The scenario is that after a day of peaceful protesting a group intent on causing trouble ends up at that fenced off building. The majority of protesetor even at that late hour are peaceful but there is a trouble causing element that provokes a confrontation. I watched the live coverage from a local station on quite a few nights early on They dowed overhead video where you could see a shower of bottle and other projectile being hurled over the fence at the police.

http://katu.com/news/local/protesters-take-to-the-streets-of-portland-damage-reported


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Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
4. What federal criminal laws are being broken that they have jurisdiction over...
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 06:11 PM
Jul 2020

Another fn con job to make Trump look like a tough guy. Get the christofascists all aroused over the overt authoritarianism.

ret5hd

(20,501 posts)
6. Help me out here: I haven't thought this all the way through...
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 06:18 PM
Jul 2020

So, a couple people in movie-prop-attire (bought at army surplus? stolen?), faces covered, no identifying insignia, jump out of an unmarked van, repeatedly refuse to identify themselves, grab a civilian, stuff them in the unmarked van, and...

WE HAVE TO STAND AROUND AND LET IT HAPPEN??? You gotta be kidding me! Nobody knows who they are! Fuckin' RW paramilitaries? Narco-syndicate soldiers? Human traffickers? Mafia hit men? WHO THE HELL KNOWS?

Bullshit! That can't be legal, and I don't see how a jury would convict a person trying to stop them.

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