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The judge whose family was shot today had just been assigned case suing Deutsche Bank over Epstein (Original Post) MelissaB Jul 2020 OP
A little more... MelissaB Jul 2020 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author LudwigPastorius Jul 2020 #41
Somebody needs to prove to me that this wasn't an outright hit on a sitting judge. Volaris Jul 2020 #2
Smells like a hit job to me. Covered by using an old mob trick ... a trusted delivery guy. nt 42bambi Jul 2020 #9
It is a hit and I am thinking Mossad Bev54 Jul 2020 #56
Mossad?! Why? JudyM Jul 2020 #61
It's always Mossad on DU. nt Codeine Jul 2020 #79
Because it has been reported that both Bev54 Jul 2020 #80
ABC News says it was someone disguised as a Fed Ex worker. musicblind Jul 2020 #12
I'm sayin. Find this fucker. I WANT NAMES. Volaris Jul 2020 #16
I hope they get him, and I hope he talks. n/t musicblind Jul 2020 #26
First rule of assassination; kill the assassin. keithbvadu2 Jul 2020 #34
"Jack Ruby" comes to mind. dawg day Jul 2020 #39
And Ruby was killed in prison, if memory serves. colorado_ufo Jul 2020 #44
No. He died of complications from lung cancer in Jan, 1967 TexasBushwhacker Jul 2020 #54
Not officially at least Polybius Jul 2020 #55
Jack Ruby's action was very suspicious- dawg day Jul 2020 #77
Ruby died from cancer in a Dallas hospital. DesertRat Jul 2020 #57
Yeah, he is likely already dead. nt Blue_true Jul 2020 #45
Yeah, where's the motive, if not a hit? Hugin Jul 2020 #19
Given all the judges they could choose to hit -- musicblind Jul 2020 #48
The D Bank/Epstein affair seems to be closer to the fire than the smoke... Hugin Jul 2020 #59
+1 2naSalit Jul 2020 #67
+1 uponit7771 Jul 2020 #69
THIS. Spot on. crickets Jul 2020 #81
Innnnteresting. BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2020 #88
Definitely a 'hit.' elleng Jul 2020 #22
Sounds like Bogota Columbia. Dios Mio Jul 2020 #63
K&R musette_sf Jul 2020 #3
Trump and Barr are behind this somewhere. triron Jul 2020 #4
I'm thinking more of Putin, with 45s knowledge. AJT Jul 2020 #13
Why Putin? triron Jul 2020 #25
So it can't be traced or blamed on Trump Sugarcoated Jul 2020 #52
I don't think they are totally separate things JI7 Jul 2020 #66
I hope that Ghislaine Maxwell is locked up somewhere safe! 42bambi Jul 2020 #17
So was Epstein, until he suicided himself after a couple months locked up. nt Blue_true Jul 2020 #47
OMG renate Jul 2020 #5
The son was only 20 years old. Nt lostnfound Jul 2020 #6
That is tragic. musicblind Jul 2020 #14
The Russians are coming flamingdem Jul 2020 #7
Yes. We see their methods in Portland. Coincidentally, in Belararus, secret police/KGB picking up emmaverybo Jul 2020 #21
Putin in the real president. It explains so much. OMGWTF Jul 2020 #83
William Barr! Johnny2X2X Jul 2020 #8
What Judge would be willing to take the case after this horror? katmondoo Jul 2020 #20
A judge who has already agreed robbob Jul 2020 #72
CNN hasn't broken in to cover it yet, but ABC news has a Twitter thread going. musicblind Jul 2020 #10
Get this to Rachel. triron Jul 2020 #11
... JoeOtterbein Jul 2020 #15
CNN now has a "breaking news" stub article up: musicblind Jul 2020 #18
This is absolute madness. smirkymonkey Jul 2020 #23
This administration has gone full mob pandr32 Jul 2020 #24
some reporting from local non-Wildstein (NJ) news source MissLilyBart Jul 2020 #27
Thank you for this! musicblind Jul 2020 #30
The CNN article now has a tip number that's been set up by the FBI. musicblind Jul 2020 #28
Unfortunately Devilsun Jul 2020 #29
There's a better chance BGBD Jul 2020 #31
They're already on Twitter trying. musicblind Jul 2020 #35
It doesn't take a detective to know that was a hit. Plain and simple ashredux Jul 2020 #32
knr triron Jul 2020 #33
holy fuckin shitballs. pnwest Jul 2020 #36
Sure beginning to look like it. triron Jul 2020 #38
It sure sounds like a job by some mobbed-up thug struggle4progress Jul 2020 #37
Maybe instead of guarding monuments, some of those federal officers can guard Epstein judges. SunSeeker Jul 2020 #40
"Russian telegram" sent... LudwigPastorius Jul 2020 #42
"Three Days of the Condor" Another Jackalope Jul 2020 #43
Oh no, this is a nightmare scenario. FM123 Jul 2020 #46
The husband is still alive, isn't he? musicblind Jul 2020 #50
They Last Said Critical But Stable Condition nt sfstaxprep Jul 2020 #51
JAW DROPPING MOB HIT Grasswire2 Jul 2020 #49
+1 uponit7771 Jul 2020 #70
Wow! peggysue2 Jul 2020 #53
Well, I guess we've finally come upon the center of what is going on with Trump and the GOP. C Moon Jul 2020 #58
The terror is getting ratcheted up as we get closer to the election. NBachers Jul 2020 #60
This SHOULD BE EVERY HEADLINE. Firebrand Gary Jul 2020 #62
Everything about Russia is just bad. Avoid anything Russia!!! ffr Jul 2020 #64
So unbearably sad and traumatic for Cha Jul 2020 #65
I hope Judge Silas' husband is being Guarded in the hospital Cha Jul 2020 #68
K&R ck4829 Jul 2020 #71
What are the chances this isn't either MAGA or mob related? About zero. Vinca Jul 2020 #73
Dressed as FEdEx driver? kentuck Jul 2020 #74
This definitely has a mob hit feel to it. boston bean Jul 2020 #75
The killer showed up in a FedEx uniform, fired and disappeared DFW Jul 2020 #76
k&r BSdetect Jul 2020 #78
Holy fuck. Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 2020 #82
Killer who committed suicide was a woman hating attorney. grantcart Jul 2020 #84
We don't actually know that. bloom Jul 2020 #87
knr triron Jul 2020 #85
knr triron Jul 2020 #86
knr triron Jul 2020 #89

Response to MelissaB (Reply #1)

Volaris

(10,272 posts)
2. Somebody needs to prove to me that this wasn't an outright hit on a sitting judge.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 10:48 PM
Jul 2020

Cause this seems to have the OPPOSITE of random home invasion written all over it.

Bev54

(10,053 posts)
56. It is a hit and I am thinking Mossad
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 12:15 AM
Jul 2020

There was also an article in the New York Post about how Ghislaine Maxwell believes that Epstein was murdered and she will be too if she stays in prison. She may be right.

https://nypost.com/2020/07/19/ghislaine-maxwell-thinks-epstein-was-murdered-fears-same-fate-report/



Bev54

(10,053 posts)
80. Because it has been reported that both
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 10:49 AM
Jul 2020

Epstein and Maxwell worked for Mossad, her Dad previously did. It is thought that Mossad financed Epstein and Maxwell helped him, to trap important people from around the world into kompromat by having sex with underage children. They had cameras everywhere and where do you think Epstein got his money.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,203 posts)
54. No. He died of complications from lung cancer in Jan, 1967
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 12:14 AM
Jul 2020

Oddly enough, he died in Parkland Hospital, the same hospital where Lee Harvey Oswald died and where JFK was pronounced dead.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
77. Jack Ruby's action was very suspicious-
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 09:11 AM
Jul 2020

IIRC, he was a 'nightclub owner," mobbed up, uninterested in politics. Why would he suddenly turn into a righteous avenger?

Hugin

(33,164 posts)
19. Yeah, where's the motive, if not a hit?
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 11:06 PM
Jul 2020

Robbery? Ha! It looks like The Trumperfellas are shopping for a judge to their liking.

A real indication of the desperation...

musicblind

(4,484 posts)
48. Given all the judges they could choose to hit --
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 11:56 PM
Jul 2020

why this one?

I'm not saying it isn't Trump related, but wouldn't they go after a litany of others first?

This feels more like Russia or the mob?

Hugin

(33,164 posts)
59. The D Bank/Epstein affair seems to be closer to the fire than the smoke...
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 12:25 AM
Jul 2020

of the roaring dumpster fire which is the Trump Organization.

Mainly, the D Bank... It's the nexus of the whole Turd Reich. The main vein, so to speak.

It's where they channel and launder money. It's where SCOTUS Justice (retired) Kennedy's son worked as Old Yeller's personal banker. It's basically run by the Russian Syndicate. Add in Barr as part of the Triumvirate of Barr, Pompeo, and Mnuchin who have seized power and are essentially running the US in the vacuum created by a negligent and mentally unfit would-be dictator, and Barr's vulnerability to all things Epstein. Along with so much else I can't even begin to list it here. The mob which is currently in power in the US can't afford any chink or wiff of actual impartial nosy Justice getting anywhere near this cesspool. It would start the cards falling and they can't have it happen.

Much of their distraction and noise making is directly related to them making sure nobody sees what is happening behind the curtain and that curtain is D Bank.

crickets

(25,981 posts)
81. THIS. Spot on.
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 11:55 AM
Jul 2020

The thing is, by having taken such blatant action, someone may have pointed a great big neon arrow at what so many people want to keep hidden away.

renate

(13,776 posts)
5. OMG
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 10:53 PM
Jul 2020

This is horrifying.

I cannot believe what is happening to our country.

It’s worse than Russian defenestration... killing family members is more paralyzing than killing the judge herself.

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
21. Yes. We see their methods in Portland. Coincidentally, in Belararus, secret police/KGB picking up
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 11:16 PM
Jul 2020

journalists and protestors off the street and situation escalating. Personally, I think PUTIN advises Trump not only on foreign policy, but domestic as well.”Dominate the streets” sounds great in a Russian accent.

So sorry for this family! ,



Johnny2X2X

(19,068 posts)
8. William Barr!
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 10:55 PM
Jul 2020

Judge wouldn’t play ball with Barr So Trump has it handled other ways.

The judge will be removed from the case now. Barr will give it to a friendlier judge.

musicblind

(4,484 posts)
10. CNN hasn't broken in to cover it yet, but ABC news has a Twitter thread going.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 11:00 PM
Jul 2020

You can scroll down for updates as ABC News gets them:


 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
23. This is absolute madness.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 11:17 PM
Jul 2020

We are no longer living in the Democratic United States of America. Something has happened to us without our consent or notice. I can barely believe what is happening here.

pandr32

(11,588 posts)
24. This administration has gone full mob
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 11:17 PM
Jul 2020

They intend for everyone to be too frightened to stand against them in any capacity. We need judges to stand for the law, we need watchdogs, we need whistle blowers, we need people to honor subpoenas, and we need a functioning government.
We must rid ourselves of these criminals.

SunSeeker

(51,574 posts)
40. Maybe instead of guarding monuments, some of those federal officers can guard Epstein judges.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 11:39 PM
Jul 2020

If we can trust them to do it properly...

FM123

(10,053 posts)
46. Oh no, this is a nightmare scenario.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 11:55 PM
Jul 2020

I feel so bad for this woman who lost her husband and son like this. And possibly because of her job assignment....

peggysue2

(10,832 posts)
53. Wow!
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 12:08 AM
Jul 2020

Someone or an group of someones are working overtime to bring on the collapse of the United States.

Horrifying.

Once upon a time, this happened in other countries. Now? It's right on our doorstep.

C Moon

(12,213 posts)
58. Well, I guess we've finally come upon the center of what is going on with Trump and the GOP.
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 12:18 AM
Jul 2020

Now the mafia hits are beginning.

Cha

(297,323 posts)
65. So unbearably sad and traumatic for
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 01:22 AM
Jul 2020

Judge Salas.

Just what the hell do they think they're accomplishing with killing her family? Taking her out and getting another judge?!

ETA.. yes, from reading the thread.. that seems like exactly what they're doing.

DFW

(54,410 posts)
76. The killer showed up in a FedEx uniform, fired and disappeared
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 08:11 AM
Jul 2020

Never even said a word?

Assuming he knew any English to begin with, my bet is he is no longer in the country.

This was a professionally organized hit with a message. The message is obvious, and so is the style of the messenger. My only question is who, if anyone, is going to do anything about it? Obviously, the answer to that is not Trump, not Barr, and not Putin, and I doubt MSNBC has the firepower to protect its investigative journalists from FSB or GRU professionals.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,771 posts)
82. Holy fuck.
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 03:30 PM
Jul 2020
Well, besides trying to vote the fascists out, what can be done. We can't let this kind of thing, the Portland gestapo tactics, etc. Where is Bill Gates with his savior money?

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
84. Killer who committed suicide was a woman hating attorney.
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 05:19 PM
Jul 2020

Nothing to do with Epstein the mob or anything else.

Please update article and change misleading title

bloom

(11,635 posts)
87. We don't actually know that.
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 06:50 PM
Jul 2020

The (Trump) mob could have found this guy - who already had issues and cancer - and would do the deed.

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