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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCan anyone confirm location of this horrifying attack by federales on dog walking person?
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Ms. Toad
(34,076 posts)Simonis, 35, who uses they/them pronouns, was in an area that has been a hotspot for anti-racist and anti-police brutality protests. They were suddenly surrounded by federal officers. Their service dog, needed for their PTSD, was pulled away. They were handcuffed and maced.
Wallace is like my wheelchair or my insulin pump, Simonis, a quantitative ecologist, told the Guardian. Yes, hes a puppy dog, but I cant live without him.
Simonis said it took an hour before they were read their Miranda rights and told they were being charged with spray-painting federal property.
For the next nine hours, they said, they were held in a cell in the basement of a federal courthouse, with no potable water. Despite repeatedly requesting a lawyer, they were questioned by federal officers, including a special agent from the Federal Protective Service, the security police division of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS).
The dog is wearing a vest, which could be a service vest. The markings on the sidewalk appear to be designating where they are permitted to stand v. federal property.
Phoenix61
(17,006 posts)Portland property.
Grasswire2
(13,571 posts)Ms. Toad
(34,076 posts)Thunderbeast
(3,417 posts)Corner of 3rd and Madison...Portland.
Across from Terry Shrunk Plaza.
Karadeniz
(22,537 posts)KWR65
(1,098 posts)Ms. Toad
(34,076 posts)They (preferred pronoun) indicate they were chalking the line that separates federal property from city property. The police claim it was spray paint.
KWR65
(1,098 posts)It is simple. If you are arrested you have a right to a criminal trial.
Ms. Toad
(34,076 posts)exercising their first amendment rights on city property is not a violation of their rights? Watch the posted video. There was no warning, no opportunity to comply. Just tackled and thrown to the ground. If you read the article or watch the longer video, it describes the extended period of time prior to being mirandized or treated for the tear gas, and the insistence on treating them as a male in a prison setting, and with respect to physical ivasions of their body (searching, for example).
Whatever stretch of the imagination allows them to act in this way on federal property does not extend to militarized troops arresting individuals on city property.
The sidewalk markings were to clearly mark out the distinction between federal property and non-federal property. They were not on federal property, and they were chalk markings (like those used to make markings on football fields).
Watch the tape. Watch the longer tape I posted, which is embedded within an hour + conversation with them.
Ms. Toad
(34,076 posts)You have to wait for fair trial by jury to decide if this guy's rights were violated, too:
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Or are two broken bones in his arm good enough for you?
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)In this case, those appear to have been violated. Your argument is Trump-like.
Jeebo
(2,025 posts)I think she was a woman, because she was yelling, "I am a woman!" But I couldn't make anything else out.
One thing I have always known, cops, many of them, are bullies. That is a profession that attracts that personality type. That profession gives them societal permission to be bullies. I graduated from high school in 1969, and when I went back to my hometown a few years later, I started noticing city cops who had been bullies in high school. No surprise there.
We really need some kind of wholesale nationwide restructuring of that profession that filters out those kinds of people.
And no, I have no idea where that was. Just that it was in the U.S., because they were speaking English and the victim of the police brutality was claiming her first amendment rights at the beginning of the tussle.
-- Ron
Ms. Toad
(34,076 posts)There is video included in the 1-hour plus interview starting around 40 minutes. It's longer, but you can identify the woman and the dog (They use they/them pronouns, but part of their complaints is that they are a woman - but the police persistently referred to them as male, narked the documents as male, etc.
csziggy
(34,136 posts)Right across the street from where the Wall of Moms was gassed yesterday.