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highplainsdem

(48,978 posts)
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 10:20 PM Jul 2020

Don Winslow: Trump & Barr want war in the streets. DON'T GIVE IT TO THEM.





CIVIL WAR on the streets of America in July, August, September and October is GREAT for Donald Trump on November 3.

That's why Trump/Barr approved $61 million today in grants to hire more cops/secret police to fight in more more cities.

THEY
WANT
WAR

DONT
GIVE
IT
TO
THEM





Editing to add 5 of his earlier tweets about this today:







DO NOT ENGAGE Trump's secret police force.

Move away from them and make them come to you.

The footage will reflect that.

Don't stand there in the dark and go toe to toe with them.

That is EXACTLY what Trump wants you to do.

He WANTS this.









If I was running the protests, I would stop every day at sundown.

There is no reason to be out there all night.

And being out there all night does two things:

1. It feeds Trump's narrative.

2. It allows for footage that is often VERY hard to see to be easily manipulated.









Imagine how limited Trump's secret police force would be if every night they lined up to beat protesters, protesters were peacefully wrapping up, going home and preparing to start against the next morning.

THAT would make an INCREDIBLE STATEMENT.

YOU would own your own STORY.









Go back and read my timeline.

I've called so much of this shit years before.

And I'm telling you with absolute certainty that going full World War III in the streets at night will HELP Trump get re-elected in November.

You will be actors in his marketing videos.









The one and only thing I will give Trump credit for is being - flat out - the single best marketer EVER to be President.

Respect that.

He out messages everyone.

And having World War III in the streets with him every night allows him to **SELL** himself as TOUGH and PATRIOTIC.
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Don Winslow: Trump & Barr want war in the streets. DON'T GIVE IT TO THEM. (Original Post) highplainsdem Jul 2020 OP
K&R !!! FFS !!! liberalla Jul 2020 #1
kicking after editing to OP to include several earlier tweets on this subject highplainsdem Jul 2020 #2
"What if they gave a war Tanuki Jul 2020 #3
Exactly. ...nt 2naSalit Jul 2020 #12
I agree. It's the smart way to protest. scarletlib Jul 2020 #4
k&r for visibility alwaysinasnit Jul 2020 #5
Winslow is right. Please heed his advice. Eyeball_Kid Jul 2020 #6
KnR Hekate Jul 2020 #7
Retweeted! TY, hpd! Cha Jul 2020 #8
Amen jumptheshadow Jul 2020 #9
K&r ! Fiendish Thingy Jul 2020 #10
Wise words from one who would know. 2naSalit Jul 2020 #11
Damn good advice creeksneakers2 Jul 2020 #13
Lucy with the fucking football! mjvpi Jul 2020 #14
If you look at the history of peaceful protests that went violent: Aussie105 Jul 2020 #15
Just remember that Trump takes credit for everything... AntiFascist Jul 2020 #16
He's exactly right. One other important reason to stay off the streets at night - if there are scarletwoman Jul 2020 #17
Also: "Naked Athena" was an act of genius struggle4progress Jul 2020 #18
A great essay on this same subject from the Times creeksneakers2 Jul 2020 #19
TBH, all he needs is people posing as rioters and attackers to get his footage DSandra Jul 2020 #20
Thank you for posting his whole tweet thread... WePurrsevere Jul 2020 #21
K&R for the post and the discussion. crickets Jul 2020 #22

jumptheshadow

(3,269 posts)
9. Amen
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 11:19 PM
Jul 2020

Just ignore them. Starve them of the malignant attention they crave. Fight them by controlling the narrative and frustrate them by not taking their bait. Don't go near federal facilities. There are plenty of other good places for peaceful and creative demonstrations.

Aussie105

(5,397 posts)
15. If you look at the history of peaceful protests that went violent:
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 01:29 AM
Jul 2020

Not many succeeded in what they set out to do.

Think Tiananmen square, recent Hong Kong protests. Just leads to heavy handed crackdowns from the ruling classes and their attack dogs.

Even the successful ones, like the overthrow of the monarchy in the French revolution and the overthrow of the Romanovs in Russia didn't lead to as much change as the people had hoped for.

Some damn good suggestions in those tweets.

Currently Trump is at war with COVID-19, and losing big time.

Don't give him a war that he can win and leverage himself back into the White House for another term.

AntiFascist

(12,792 posts)
16. Just remember that Trump takes credit for everything...
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 01:40 AM
Jul 2020

and he will likely take credit for quieting the protests.

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
17. He's exactly right. One other important reason to stay off the streets at night - if there are
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 01:45 AM
Jul 2020

agents provocateurs who have infiltrated the demonstrators, this will deprive them of cover.

And, I firmly believe that much of the vandalism and destruction that's occurred during demonstrations in cities across the country has been the work of right wing inciters and/or cointelpro type infiltrators.

And if you're not familiar with Cointelpro, here's a brief primer:

COINTELPRO in the 60s

Government harassment of U.S. political activists clearly exists today, violating our fundamental democratic rights and creating a climate of fear and distrust which undermines our efforts to challenge official policy. Similar attacks on social justice movements came to light during the 1960s. Only years later did we learn that these had been merely the visible tip of an iceberg. Largely hidden at the time was a vast government program to neutralize domestic political opposition through "covert action" (political repression carried out secretly or under the guise of legitimate law enforcement).
The 1960s program, coordinated by the FBI under the code name "COINTELPRO," was exposed in the 1970s and supposedly stopped. But covert operations against domestic dissidents did not end. They have persisted and become an integral part of government activity. ...

How COINTELPRO Worked:

<snip>

4. Extralegal Force and Violence: The FBI and police threatened, instigated, and themselves conducted break-ins, vandalism, assaults, and beatings. The object was to frighten dissidents and disrupt their movements. In the case of radical Black and Puerto Rican activists (and later Native Americans), these attacks-including political assassinations-were so extensive, vicious, and calculated that they can accurately be termed a form of official "terrorism."

Much more at link. Do a search on the term "cointelpro" - there a quite a few books about it.

creeksneakers2

(7,473 posts)
19. A great essay on this same subject from the Times
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 04:03 AM
Jul 2020

Trump’s Wag-the-Dog War
The president is looking for a dangerous domestic enemy to fight.

“So, in a desperate effort to salvage his campaign, Trump turned to the Middle East Dictator’s Official Handbook and found just what he was looking for, the chapter titled, ‘What to Do When Your People Turn Against You?’

“Answer: Turn them against each other and then present yourself as the only source of law and order.”

I have zero tolerance for any American protesters who resort to violence in any U.S. city, because it damages homes and businesses already hammered by the coronavirus — many of them minority-owned — and because violence will only turn off and repel the majority needed to drive change.

But when I heard Trump suggest, as he did in the Oval Office on Monday, that he was going to send federal forces into U.S. cities, where the local mayors have not invited him, the first word that popped into my head was “Syria.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/21/opinion/trump-portland-syria.html?action=click&module=Well&pgtype=Homepage&section=OpEd%20Columnists

DSandra

(999 posts)
20. TBH, all he needs is people posing as rioters and attackers to get his footage
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 05:22 AM
Jul 2020

And it's already known that groups like the Boogaloo boys have already done this

https://www.postandcourier.com/opinion/editorials/editorial-right-wing-extremist-group-boogaloo-boys-poses-real-threat-during-protests/article_671f308e-a9bb-11ea-a80c-abf5b2a81591.html

And it's also known that police have posed as protesters before.

Whether or not we fight back, Trump will use it to his advantage, because he is not limited by facts and reality, and certainly not Fox News, Breitbart, and Newsmax as well.

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
21. Thank you for posting his whole tweet thread...
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 07:05 AM
Jul 2020

Seeing only the first one elsewhere it seemed like he was saying to not protest at all, which I disagree with. What he actually is saying is to protest but do so intelligently, that I very much agree with.

I also agree with comments suggesting that protesters should be carry and waving the America flag and copy of the constitution. Make a wall of red, white and blue for Trump's fascist goons to attack. That flag belongs to and is supposed to represent all of us, To Hell with TrumpliCon fascisT bullpucky, RECLAIM OUR FLAG.

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