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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhen Trump Sends His Goons To Chicago & They Start Taking Away Guns From The Gangs In The City.....
it should give a hint to Trump's gun rights supporters as to what can happen to them with respect to their guns.
Trump always suggests that the Dems will take away the people's guns - and now - with his goons - he could and will be accused of doing just that.
It will be interesting to watch what happens.
durablend
(7,460 posts)"Because we're the GOOD GUYS with guns!"
This is exactly what will happen.
I'm already seeing it.
packman
(16,296 posts)"Because we're the GOOD WHITE GUYS with guns!"
Newest Reality
(12,712 posts)We are seeing what looks like an occupation by hostile forces.
Do we be reasonable and wait or respond? This feels pivotal. The Constitution does indicate a remedy, or course and protecting it is a patriotic duty. Protesting is both patriotic and an American tradition.
Decisions, decisions. This is a threshold.
AleksS
(1,665 posts)Its never been about taking away their guns. Its always been about taking away muh gunz.
And its the rare RARE RARE gun nut that will make the connection.
Its not about their rights, its about their fear.
global1
(25,251 posts)If this situation is handled cleverly - that suggestion of rights and guns being taken away from these gun nuts - can put doubt and fear in their heads. We need to get into their heads with that possibility happening to them.
It they see anything that smacks of Trumps goons taking away guns from the gangs of Chicago (which in my mind is a good thing to stop the senseless killings that is going on in this city) - subliminally they will get the message that if it can happen to them(gangs)- it's not a big leap - that it could also happen to us (gun nuts).
We always accuse Trump and the Repugs of projection. What if the Dems use a little 'reverse psychology' here?
AleksS
(1,665 posts)Gun nuts will 100% be silent as long as guns are being taken away from others. I guarantee it.
Remember when St. Ronnie of the Ray gun passed gun control? Why no outcry? Because the guns were being taken from scary scary black guys.
Their WORDS are about their rights, but its never about the actual rights. Its about their fear and their guns. Theyll happily applaud secret police confiscating guns all day long as long as its from urban (read: black and brown) people. Guaranteed.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,719 posts)White people can have all the guns they want and won't have to worry about having their guns taken away by the government.
mikeysnot
(4,757 posts)this is just another bloviating stunt to make him look tough to his stupid supporters.
Law and order candidate my ass.
Baked Potato
(7,733 posts)He will leave the White House. He will leave President Biden and Democrats a country in complete chaotic shambles. This will force the incoming Democratic administration to take extreme actions to right the ship.
dutch777
(3,019 posts)That actually might be something useful they could do, but I doubt they have the smarts or the guts. They will rather tear gas peaceful protesters as that is easy, safe for them and gets Donnie the "I am tough on lawlessness" red meat video he wants for his Neanderthal base that doesn't really get free speech or honest dissent in their true constitutional sense.
Oh and they would probably lose against the gangs too.
HotTeaBag
(1,206 posts)but quite another to face down armed gangs - armed with military grade weaponry.
Dressing up and playing soldier is all these guys want to do (or are capable of doing) - being an actual soldier is not what they signed up for.
Personally, I would LOVE to see thousands of armed gang members circle the circle of these 'troops' around a federal building and just stare them down - see how many G.I. Joes show up the next night.
sarisataka
(18,656 posts)You want to see thousands of armed gang members face down Federal Leo's and intimidate them into surrendering Chicago to the gangs.
The same gang members who are shooting people by the dozens every weekend and killing children in their crossfire?
Strange priorities you have.
HotTeaBag
(1,206 posts)Very, very much.
global1
(25,251 posts)afraid of the gangs. The gangs control those neighborhoods.
If Trump really wanted to do some good in Chicago - he'd make sure that his goons went after these gangs.
If he was to solve the gang problem in Chicago or even put fear into the hearts and heads of these gang members and stop most of the violence - he could be a hero in the neighborhoods. He could sway some votes.
After all - the gangs are just 'bullies with guns'. Someone needs to stand up to these bullies.
Is Trump smart enough to realize this?
triron
(22,006 posts)LastDemocratInSC
(3,647 posts)And acquire other guns to replace the ones taken. It's a big business, after all, and investing in capital equipment is important to the bottom line.
Devil Child
(2,728 posts)I will not weep for violent gang members losing firearms they are legally prohibited from possessing due to felony conviction history.
jmg257
(11,996 posts)Most gun rights supporters won't take issue.
It will be interesting to see how and if its accomplished.
sarisataka
(18,656 posts)Guns more than Democrats on average.
However do you think his supporters may see a significant factor that differentiates them from the gangs shooting up Chicago?
Is there a difference between the two groups?
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)Martin Eden
(12,869 posts)But how, exactly, do Trump's goon squads plan to find and confiscate guns from street gangs?
That would require tactics much more invasive and unconstitutional than the "stop and frisk" formerly employed in New York.
Black market guns are indeed a HUGE problem in Chicago. Rightwingers like to argue that stricter gun control laws in the city and the state of Illinois prove that gun control laws don't work, but they totally neglect the fact that just across the border in Indiana where the laws are much more lax is a pipeline for black market guns to the streets of Chicago.
The solution (aside from addressing the root causes of poverty and violence) is to strangle that supply line by having strict nationwide gun control laws, fully funded and enforced. YES WE CAN preserve 2nd Amendment rights for law abiding citizens while reducing violent crimes committed with illicit firearms.
But, of course, that is not the real agenda at work here. Stoking fear, hatred, and divisiveness is the core strategy of the POT (Party Of Trump). They have to convince their voting base that any attempt to curtail the flood of illegally sold firearms in America is tantamount to abolishing the 2nd Amendment and prying their precious guns from their cold dead tiny hands.
Neither they nor Trump care a whit about Chicago street gangs killing each other along with innocent bystanders in black neighborhoods.
This is not about law & order.
It is political theater.
Beringia
(4,316 posts)Maybe a few gang members will go to jail, but getting guns is an interstate business. The whole idea of combating gang fighting with troops is silly