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aggiesal

(8,916 posts)
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 12:47 PM Jul 2020

Just wanted to re-post this from DU Member amerikat, back in 2016 ...

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and do a comparison with what is happening today.

ENJOY!
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When Trump Voters Say We Suffered Under Obama For 8 Years, This Is How You Respond

“We suffered for eight years. Now it’s your turn.”
Scott wrote a brilliant response asking how exactly his friend had suffered under Obama:
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“I am surprised you would wish suffering upon me. That of course is your right, I suppose. I do not wish harm on anyone. Your statement seems to continue the ‘US v THEM’ mentality. The election is over. It is important to get past campaigning and campaign rhetoric and get down to what is uniting, not dividing and what is best for ALL Americans.

There will never be a President who does everything to everyone’s liking. There are things President Obama (and President Clinton) did that I do not like and conversely there are things I can point to that the Presidents Bush did that I agree with. So I am not 100% in lock step with the outgoing President but have supported him and the overall job he did.

And, if you recall, during the Presidential Campaign back in 2008 the campaign was halted because of the “historic crisis in our financial system.” Wall Street bailout negotiations intervened in the election process. The very sobering reality was that there likely could be a Depression and the world financial markets could collapse. The United States was losing 800,000 jobs a month and was poised to lose at least 10 million jobs the first year once the new President took office. We were in an economic freefall. So let us recall that ALL of America was suffering terribly at the beginning of Obama’s Presidency.

But I wanted to look back over the last 8 years and ask you a few questions. Since much of the rhetoric before Obama was elected was that he would impose Sharia Law, Take Away Your Guns, Create Death Panels, Destroy the Economy, Impose Socialism and, since you will agree that NONE of this came to pass, I was wondering: Why have you suffered so?

So let me ask: Gays and Lesbians can now marry and enjoy the benefits they had been deprived of. Has this caused your suffering?

When Obama took office, the Dow was 6,626. Now it is 19,875. Has this caused your suffering?

We had 82 straight months of private sector job growth – the longest streak in the history of the United States. Has this caused your suffering?

Especially considering where the economy was when he took over, an amazing 11.3 million new jobs were created under President Obama (far more than President Bush). Has this caused your suffering?

Obama has taken Unemployment from 10% down to 4.7%. Has this caused your suffering?

Homelessness among US Veterans has dropped by half. Has this caused your suffering?

Obama shut down the US secret overseas prisons. Has this caused your suffering?

President Obama has created a policy for the families of fallen soldiers to have their travel paid for to be there when remains are flown home. Has this caused your suffering?

We landed a rover on Mars. Has this caused your suffering?

He passed the Matthew Shepard Hate Crimes Prevention Act. Has this caused your suffering?

Uninsured adults has decreased to below 10%: 90% of adults are insured – an increase of 20 Million Adults. Has this caused your suffering?

People are now covered for pre-existing conditions. Has this caused your suffering?

Insurance Premiums increased an average of $4,677 from 2002-2008, an increase of 58% under Bush. The growth of these insurance premiums has gone up $4,145 – a slower rate of increase. Has this caused your suffering?

Obama added Billions of dollars to mental health care for our Veterans. Has this caused your suffering?

Consumer confidence has gone from 37.7 to 98.1 during Obama’s tenure. Has this caused your suffering?

He passed the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act. Has this caused your suffering?

His bi-annual Nuclear Summit convinced 16 countries to give up and destroy all their loose nuclear material so it could not be stolen. Has this caused your suffering?

He saved the US Auto industry. American cars sold at the beginning of his term were 10.4M and upon his exit 17.5M. Has this caused your suffering?

The deficit as a percentage of the GDP has gone from 9.8% to 3.2%. Has this caused your suffering?

The deficit itself was cut by $800 Billion Dollars. Has this caused your suffering?

Obama preserved the middle class tax cuts. Has this caused your suffering?

Obama banned solitary confinement for juveniles in federal prisons. Has this caused your suffering?

He signed Credit Card reform so that rates could not be raised without you being notified. Has this caused your suffering?

He outlawed Government contractors from discriminating against LGBT persons. Has this caused your suffering?

He doubled Pell Grants. Has this caused your suffering?

Abortion is down. Has this caused your suffering?

Violent crime is down. Has this caused your suffering?

He overturned the scientific ban on stem cell research. Has this caused your suffering?

He protected Net Neutrality. Has this caused your suffering?

Obamacare has extended the life of the Medicare insurance trust fund (will be solvent until 2030). Has this caused your suffering?

President Obama repealed Don’t Ask Don’t Tell. Has this caused your suffering?

He banned torture. Has this caused your suffering?

He negotiated with Syria to give up its chemical weapons and they were destroyed. Has this caused your suffering?

Solar and Wind Power are at an all time high. Has this caused your suffering?

High School Graduation rates hit 83% – an all time high. Has this caused your suffering?

Corporate profits are up by 144%. Has this caused your suffering?

He normalized relations with Cuba. Has this caused your suffering?

Reliance on foreign oil is at a 40 year low. Has this caused your suffering?

US Exports are up 28%. Has this caused your suffering?

He appointed the most diverse cabinet ever. Has this caused your suffering?

He reduced the number of troops in both Iraq and Afghanistan. Has this caused your suffering?

Yes, he killed Osama Bin Laden and retrieved all the documents in his possession for analysis. Perhaps THIS caused your suffering?

From an objective standpoint it would appear that the last eight years have seen some great progress and we were saved from a financial collapse. Things are not perfect. Things can always be better. We are on much better footing now than we were in 2008.

I look forward to understanding what caused you to suffer so much under Obama these last eight years.”

Copy & paste to share. I hope you will.

https://democraticunderground.com/10028689867

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Just wanted to re-post this from DU Member amerikat, back in 2016 ... (Original Post) aggiesal Jul 2020 OP
You should copy the 2016 post into you OP. nt PufPuf23 Jul 2020 #1
Done, thanks! n/t aggiesal Jul 2020 #2
Back in 2016 I learned that one of my friends was supporting Trump and I asked him why. HotTeaBag Jul 2020 #3
We should ask all the Pendejo45 voters if ... aggiesal Jul 2020 #4
My feeling is that the litmus test that most Trump voters subscribe to isn't HotTeaBag Jul 2020 #6
Bookmarking. Thanks for this. n/t Whiskeytide Jul 2020 #5
You're Welcome. But you should thank amerikat ... aggiesal Jul 2020 #7
Fantastic! Wow, I miss Obama... K&R for visibility. crickets Jul 2020 #8
 

HotTeaBag

(1,206 posts)
3. Back in 2016 I learned that one of my friends was supporting Trump and I asked him why.
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 01:29 PM
Jul 2020

He said 8 years of Obama.

I then asked if it was it the 8 years of peace and prosperity part or the 8 years of a black guy in the White House part?

The conversation ended at that point.

aggiesal

(8,916 posts)
4. We should ask all the Pendejo45 voters if ...
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 01:39 PM
Jul 2020

they feel more pain now with 4 years of Pendejo45 or
more pain with 8 years of Obama?

I'd be curious to find out those numbers and why the made their choice.

Probably a good investigation by an up-and-coming hungry journalist.

 

HotTeaBag

(1,206 posts)
6. My feeling is that the litmus test that most Trump voters subscribe to isn't
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 01:47 PM
Jul 2020

whether or not they feel any more or less pain themselves - rather, it's if the people they hate are feeling more or less pain.

I think they are overwhelmingly happy with the pain that Trump has caused the 'right' people. They care much less about what Trump has done for them and much more about what Trump has done to the people they want to see hurt.

As such, they remain Trump supporters and have probably gotten even more fervent in their support.

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