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Lasher

(27,597 posts)
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 04:13 PM Jul 2020

The Lead Federal Agency Responding to Protesters in Portland Employs Thousands of Private Contractor

Last edited Thu Jul 23, 2020, 04:46 PM - Edit history (1)

The Trump administration’s deployment of federal law enforcers in Portland, Oregon, as part of a supposed effort to protect government property has prompted at least two lawsuits alleging that their show of force has resulted in abuses of authority and the unnecessary use of violence against peaceful protesters, journalists and observers.

What has not been reported widely in the media, however, is the fact that the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) unit that is coordinating the “crowd control” effort — an agency called the Federal Protective Service (FPS) — is composed largely of contract security personnel. Those contractors are being furnished to FPS by major private-sector security companies like Blackwater corporate descendant Triple Canopy as well as dozens of other private security firms.

https://medium.com/wkc6428/the-lead-federal-agency-responding-to-protesters-in-portland-employs-thousands-of-private-db137349f8b0

Looks like those 'federal agents' are actually mercenaries.

ETA: I can't get the link to work right, but if you copy and past it you will get there.

ETA: Link fixed thanks to blogslut

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The Lead Federal Agency Responding to Protesters in Portland Employs Thousands of Private Contractor (Original Post) Lasher Jul 2020 OP
No surprise. elleng Jul 2020 #1
NOTICE THE NUMBER.... louzke9 Jul 2020 #40
This is why I keep saying that people who think Miguelito Loveless Jul 2020 #41
And the COST to hire "private security"! louzke9 Jul 2020 #42
Those un-American pos should be locked up rockfordfile Jul 2020 #45
Anyone know where I can place a bet that Erik Prince Phoenix61 Jul 2020 #2
Eric Prince Sienna86 Jul 2020 #3
Makes sense. Nevilledog Jul 2020 #4
This can not be legal if true, who know how many laws have been broken ace3csusm Jul 2020 #5
Things are more likely to get out of control real easy. lpbk2713 Jul 2020 #6
Glad to see some sniffing around at who/what/where these thugs come from. poli-junkie Jul 2020 #7
I'm surprised the MSM hasn't picked this up Lasher Jul 2020 #12
M$M is for profit not reporting the news! burrowowl Jul 2020 #33
Remove the @ symbol blogslut Jul 2020 #8
Thank you. Lasher Jul 2020 #10
Lock 'em up Botany Jul 2020 #9
Mercenaries Mme. Defarge Jul 2020 #11
+1000. the_sly_pig Jul 2020 #23
maybe they'll buy some tanks... stillcool Jul 2020 #13
They are therefore subject to arrest for kidnapping, assault, and impersonating officers. NNadir Jul 2020 #14
Unless they've been deputized, which I'm sure they probably checked off that box. n/t aggiesal Jul 2020 #20
It gives me gas to think mere contractors could take US citizens under arrest Lasher Jul 2020 #22
But, of their own volition and authority, they cannot arrest you... Volaris Jul 2020 #24
I need an education on this technicality Lasher Jul 2020 #26
I may also need some more educating...its not like trumps goon squad are rented mall cops.. Volaris Jul 2020 #27
I don't think it will hold up. They are not going to be protected forever. Many of them... NNadir Jul 2020 #28
I don't think they will ever be held to account Lasher Jul 2020 #30
That was then, this is now. NNadir Jul 2020 #31
I hope you are right. Lasher Jul 2020 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author morillon Jul 2020 #38
In the Revolution bucolic_frolic Jul 2020 #15
This is exactly why the DHS needs to have its gonads snipped. patphil Jul 2020 #16
Federal marshals TheRickles Jul 2020 #17
Pinkertons Marcuse Jul 2020 #18
Yup! Modern Pinkertons! burrowowl Jul 2020 #35
Mercenaries are not beholden to any flag ... aggiesal Jul 2020 #19
These goons are sadists. Killed for sport in Iraq. rickford66 Jul 2020 #21
Thought so. leanforward Jul 2020 #25
Mercenaries can also disappear. warmfeet Jul 2020 #29
So a gang superpatriotman Jul 2020 #34
This display makes me so angry I have thoughts do not like to have. PufPuf23 Jul 2020 #36
Your rant is justified. Lasher Jul 2020 #37
Oath Keepers. Yes. Thank you very much in all respects. nt PufPuf23 Jul 2020 #39
K&R Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2020 #43
$1000 a day Academi mercenaries - today's valuation of 30 pieces of Silver Pachamama Jul 2020 #44
It's inconceivable that a president would hire private security to control American citizens Buckeyeblue Jul 2020 #46

elleng

(130,959 posts)
1. No surprise.
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 04:16 PM
Jul 2020

'Triple Canopy, Inc. is an American private security company that provides integrated security, mission support and risk management services to corporate, government and nonprofit clients. The firm was founded in May 2003 by the Army Special Forces veterans, including former Delta Force operators. In June 2014, the firm merged with rival security contracting firm, Academi, formerly Blackwater, to form Constellis Group, with Craig Nixon, the former CEO of Academi, becoming the CEO of Constellis Group, and training facilities being consolidated at the existing Academi training facility in North Carolina.'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple_Canopy

louzke9

(296 posts)
40. NOTICE THE NUMBER....
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 09:37 AM
Jul 2020

of employees! 22,000. How many of these private security employees and former special forces veterans would betray their country if Prince and Trump asked them too?

Miguelito Loveless

(4,465 posts)
41. This is why I keep saying that people who think
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 09:58 AM
Jul 2020

the military will automatically side with the people are sadly mistaken.

louzke9

(296 posts)
42. And the COST to hire "private security"!
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 10:12 AM
Jul 2020

"A staff report compiled by the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform on behalf of Representative Henry Waxman questioned the cost-effectiveness of using Blackwater forces instead of U.S. troops. Blackwater charges the government $1,222 per day per guard, "equivalent to $445,000 per year, or six times more than the cost of an equivalent U.S. soldier," the report alleged."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academi

Phoenix61

(17,006 posts)
2. Anyone know where I can place a bet that Erik Prince
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 04:17 PM
Jul 2020

is at the bottom of this? I remember hearing about him being seen at the WH awhile back and no one seemed to know why.

ace3csusm

(969 posts)
5. This can not be legal if true, who know how many laws have been broken
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 04:19 PM
Jul 2020

Who authorized this, and who else knew ...

blogslut

(38,001 posts)
8. Remove the @ symbol
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 04:40 PM
Jul 2020

I wish Medium would find a workaround for that. It makes it hard to share links to their user's pages.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
13. maybe they'll buy some tanks...
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 05:05 PM
Jul 2020

or higher a few good men...



Gina Harkins, Military.com•July 21, 2020Marine Corps Begins Shutdown of All Tank Battalions

The end of the Marine Corps' tank missions has officially begun.

Marines with 1st Tank Battalion recently watched the last of their unit's tanks depart Twentynine Palms, California. Photos taken of the event show Marines surrounding an oversized flatbed as the tanks were loaded up onto the vehicle and driven away.

Read Next: Miramar-Based Marine Aviation Unit Deactivated as Corps Gets Smaller

Less than two weeks later, Alpha Company, 4th Tank Battalion, held a deactivation ceremony at Camp Pendleton, California. The unit is the first of several companies with 4th Tanks facing deactivations this summer, Maj. Roger Hollenbeck, a spokesman for Marine Forces Reserve, said.
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More than 1,300 Marines will have their careers affected by Force Design 2030. Service officials announced in May that four military occupational specialties would be cut because of the changes, and several more would see their billets reduced.
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Lt. Gen. Eric Smith, the head of Marine Corps Combat Development Command, is overseeing many of the Force Design 2030 changes. Tanks leaving the Marine Corps, Smith told Military.com in May, could be sold to foreign militaries or to the Army. The Marine Corps could also sell their parts or store the vehicles, he said.


NNadir

(33,525 posts)
14. They are therefore subject to arrest for kidnapping, assault, and impersonating officers.
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 05:46 PM
Jul 2020

All are felonies.

It's time to bring some law and order to Portland, real law and order.

It is time to arrest these people.

Lasher

(27,597 posts)
22. It gives me gas to think mere contractors could take US citizens under arrest
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 06:41 PM
Jul 2020

But I know there is a way. After all, a security guard contractor can detain you for shop lifting at the local mall.

Volaris

(10,271 posts)
24. But, of their own volition and authority, they cannot arrest you...
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 06:47 PM
Jul 2020

They MUST call local law enforcement to do that job.

Lasher

(27,597 posts)
26. I need an education on this technicality
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 06:52 PM
Jul 2020

Thanks for giving me one. It does not seem that Trump's mercenaries have been seeking any such authority from local law enforcement in Portland.

Volaris

(10,271 posts)
27. I may also need some more educating...its not like trumps goon squad are rented mall cops..
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 06:58 PM
Jul 2020

They MAY have some additional authority relative to their orders to protect federal property.. but curfews and loitering by protesters are misdemeanor offenses that would only require additional federal resources if the locals are so utterly incompetent at they're jobs that they'll likley shoot themselves in the dick as try to use the bathroom...

AND the other side of the street from the federal building isnt federal property so...no reason for the goons to be over there at all, is there?

NNadir

(33,525 posts)
28. I don't think it will hold up. They are not going to be protected forever. Many of them...
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 07:07 PM
Jul 2020

...I have faith, will answer for their crimes.

Some actively, some less so actively, and some by other means.

I am not implying this extreme is likely, but there is the case of the Nazi War Criminal Joachim Peiper who "was only following orders" and ruthlessly murdered American Prisoners of War at Malmedy during the Battle of the Bulge. He was arrested and sentenced to death after the war, but in the Cold War dynamic his death sentence was commuted and eventually he was released to become a car executive for Porsche and ultimately Volkswagen.

He had committed war crimes in Poland, Russia, Italy and, of course, France. Ironically he moved to France where, in 1976 someone cut off the water supply and set his house on fire, whereupon he was cooked to death on Bastille Day.

My Grandfather was murdered, as it happened, in a bar fight, and I often remark that my father told me that the police had zero interest in finding out who killed him, which was probably appropriate.

I can't believe the French authorities had any interest whatsoever in who killed Peiper, who, trust me, was way worse than my Grandfather.

One hopes for better justice in this case. A police officer who kidnaps and assaults a person should be subject to justice, and thankfully we are beginning to see that happen. But these people are not immune from the law, and to restore America and the rule of law, we must and ignore any idiotic "deputation" documents.

The last word on these times have not been written. As Mary Trump, Donald's Niece says, in order for America to heal, there has to be consequences.

I believe Trump and Barr should, and well may, die in prison. There may be no Peiper like justice, but there will be justice. I believe that.

Lasher

(27,597 posts)
30. I don't think they will ever be held to account
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 07:56 PM
Jul 2020

Remember when Obama took over? GWB and his administration literally lied us into the invasion of Iraq but Obama just wanted to put the past behind us. He spent the most of his 8 years in office trying to compromise with congressional Republicans who had no intention of compromising with him.

Biden is cut from the same cloth. Even if he wins, neither Trump nor any member of his administration will ever have to answer for their horrid crimes.

NNadir

(33,525 posts)
31. That was then, this is now.
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 08:10 PM
Jul 2020

I believe you're wrong.

Trump is a whole other level.

This isn't George W. Bush. We are in a whole other territory. More Americans are dead than were killed in Vietnam and World War I combined.

Call me an insane optimist, but this is what I believe.

Response to NNadir (Reply #31)

patphil

(6,180 posts)
16. This is exactly why the DHS needs to have its gonads snipped.
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 05:58 PM
Jul 2020

These f**kers are using what amounts to Blackwater mercenaries to do their dirty work, just like what they did in Iraq.
Absolutely no accountability, and absolutely no "give a shit" in their attitude.

I don't care what they call themselves now, the stench of their lawlessness hangs in the air, like the fog of tear gas, around them.

This needs to stop now!
Hurry November!

TheRickles

(2,065 posts)
17. Federal marshals
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 06:08 PM
Jul 2020

On another DU thread, there's a photo of some of those guys that is high enough resolution that you can clearly read the patch: United States Marshal.

Scroll down to comment #16 here: [link:https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213795692|

aggiesal

(8,916 posts)
19. Mercenaries are not beholden to any flag ...
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 06:25 PM
Jul 2020

other then the GREEN flag, also known as the DOLLAR BILL.

We are going to be treated like we are in Baghdad.
Where the mercenaries were above the law and could never be prosecuted.

leanforward

(1,076 posts)
25. Thought so.
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 06:48 PM
Jul 2020

Thank you for seconding my thought that Blackwater and Eric Prince might have a hand in this “crap”. What I’ve noted too, is the gender of the leaders of the various entities of focus.

PufPuf23

(8,785 posts)
36. This display makes me so angry I have thoughts do not like to have.
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 09:14 PM
Jul 2020

I have a concern.

A majority of the mercenaries employed by these contractors are highly trained vets.

Likewise probably the largest source of police are vets.

Specifically I am not calling out vets in general.

However, our military is the source of right wing anti-patriotic violent self-identifying and supporting motherfucking racist bullies fascist authoritarians that at this point have passed being a plague on the peace of our nation to where the USA is experiencing existential crisis.

I am for the Navy guy in Portland. He could be POTUS and CIC and USSC and AG and whatever the hell Mitch McConnell is except a fuckwit.

I am so angry at the moment.

Lasher

(27,597 posts)
37. Your rant is justified.
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 10:28 PM
Jul 2020

I am an Army vet. The Oath Keepers tried to recruit me. I know just what you are talking about.

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
44. $1000 a day Academi mercenaries - today's valuation of 30 pieces of Silver
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 02:46 AM
Jul 2020

Courtesy of Betsy DeVos’s brother Erk Prince....

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
46. It's inconceivable that a president would hire private security to control American citizens
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 08:09 AM
Jul 2020

I just don't understand how this is legal. Not that that matters to Trump. I read in one article that they refuse to read rights or identify themselves. Which I think means all of these cases will be thrown out on a constitutional violation. Or they should anyway.

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