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****GUARANTEED FRESH TRUMP APPROVAL Poll**** 36% Approval 61% Disapproval (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2020 OP
Are you referring to his orange skin tone? DonaldsRump Jul 2020 #1
He's fading Johnny2X2X Jul 2020 #2
Go To The Four Corners ProfessorGAC Jul 2020 #3
Only issue is the ref. Is Bill 'fat bastard" Barr WA-03 Democrat Jul 2020 #15
He Can't Control The Calendar ProfessorGAC Jul 2020 #17
'Fred Flintstone' Barr had better jump in that logmobile. lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #19
Dean Smith DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2020 #29
Yep! ProfessorGAC Jul 2020 #32
In his defense he won a championship in the shot clock era DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2020 #38
I Know ProfessorGAC Jul 2020 #39
Isn't morning consult a, uh, kinda crappy pollster? Chichiri Jul 2020 #4
B rated, which is solid Johnny2X2X Jul 2020 #9
All pollsters are saying the same thing. Yavin4 Jul 2020 #36
Is there a betting pool on his approval rating by October? WyattKansas Jul 2020 #5
Would be hard to get below about 33%. NutmegYankee Jul 2020 #10
I think Junior got down to 19% at the end. lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #21
I've Been Saying 30%... ProfessorGAC Jul 2020 #22
It's very hard to face the fact that you were wrong, much less that you were HAD. calimary Jul 2020 #26
That's Likely A Big Reason ProfessorGAC Jul 2020 #31
33% is way too low Awsi Dooger Jul 2020 #40
We Disagree ProfessorGAC Jul 2020 #42
Last polling show bush at 26% and the recession was not nearly as bad as the Demsrule86 Jul 2020 #33
His die hard base is between Roc2020 Jul 2020 #24
We are in a depression Roosevelt won 12 Senate seats in 32. Demsrule86 Jul 2020 #34
What's the matter with Ohio? PNW-Dem Jul 2020 #28
Ohio is now tied in fact Biden has been up...we (Biden campaign) are working it... Demsrule86 Jul 2020 #37
That's great news PNW-Dem Jul 2020 #41
Trump's game is old. NCDem47 Jul 2020 #6
And he's getting boring! Walleye Jul 2020 #8
I think people can DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2020 #27
OOF! Happy Hoosier Jul 2020 #7
This pushed him to under 40% on Nate Silver's aggregate Dopers_Greed Jul 2020 #11
He's toast. nt oasis Jul 2020 #12
Trump Have Your Gestapo Gas And Beat Up More Moms That Should Help You In The Polls DanieRains Jul 2020 #13
He's also murdering his maskless base. CaptYossarian Jul 2020 #14
Haley for Pence? bucolic_frolic Jul 2020 #16
I wonder if dropping evangelical Pence is in retaliation for evangelicals not signing checks 2 tRump ffr Jul 2020 #20
Is "China Virus" his name for the Trump Virus? lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #23
no, he needs Pence to Pardon Him after he loses the Election PuppyBismark Jul 2020 #25
No chance. Or it won't help. GulfCoast66 Jul 2020 #44
No realistic person expected Turd to change his tone for more than a day. lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #18
I'd be surprised if Haley signs up for this lanlady Jul 2020 #30
If anything he lost some supporters and people on the fence now are solid Dem. appleannie1 Jul 2020 #35
basically means he has lost everyone except his racist base...... Takket Jul 2020 #43

Johnny2X2X

(19,082 posts)
2. He's fading
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 01:59 PM
Jul 2020

This is the opposite of what he needs to happen.

Joe should just run out the clock at this point.

ProfessorGAC

(65,110 posts)
32. Yep!
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 04:44 PM
Jul 2020

I would have failed to vote for him in the B-ball HoF because of that abomination.
They had to make rule changes because that approach was killing interest in college basketball.
Shot clock, defensive 3 seconds, 5 second rule.
Three or four major rule changes because of that cowardly, and boring, tactic.
I hope he regretted it in later life.

ProfessorGAC

(65,110 posts)
39. I Know
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 05:00 PM
Jul 2020

With 2 hall of fame players on the roster at the same time!
What he was great at was recruiting talented, very smart kids who could play great & not sweat the classes.
He was brilliant at that.
I also think the 4C cost Phil Ford millions because if his points & assists were what they should have been, he would have gone to Portland, #1. Five years later, he would have been playing with Drexler. Instead, Ford went to the Kings who have been an operational mess for all but 5 of the last 45 years.

Yavin4

(35,444 posts)
36. All pollsters are saying the same thing.
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 04:49 PM
Jul 2020

Trump is headed for a historic defeat. Different samples. Different methodologies. National. State. You name it. They're all pointing to a historic defeat.

WyattKansas

(1,648 posts)
5. Is there a betting pool on his approval rating by October?
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 02:09 PM
Jul 2020

29%?
20%?
15%?
10%?

How bigly badly will his ego get damaged?

NutmegYankee

(16,200 posts)
10. Would be hard to get below about 33%.
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 02:35 PM
Jul 2020

Those that stuck with W at his lowest are unlikely to disapprove.

ProfessorGAC

(65,110 posts)
22. I've Been Saying 30%...
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 03:20 PM
Jul 2020

...is the floor for over a year, now.
Seeing the R approval numbers, and I numbers, I guesstimated 30%.
It made me feel better when it had a 45% approval. I looked at it as only 15% of the other 70% approval.
I don't see it ever going below 30.
You may be dead solid correct about 33.

calimary

(81,366 posts)
26. It's very hard to face the fact that you were wrong, much less that you were HAD.
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 04:04 PM
Jul 2020

ROYALLY had.

NOBODY wants to admit to that. I'd say about 33 percent of those polled. Yep, they've been "poled" alright...

ProfessorGAC

(65,110 posts)
31. That's Likely A Big Reason
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 04:40 PM
Jul 2020

The switchers might be those who thought he might be fake, but tried the "non-politician" option.
Might be easier to acknowledge you did that and realized it was a bad idea.
If one actually voted PINO, because they thought health insurance would be cheaper & better, or thought manufacturing jobs were actually coming back from eastern Asia, or thought other countries would pick up more of the tab, then one was suckered.
Those groups fit your root cause. They can't admit they were flim-flammed.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
40. 33% is way too low
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 06:02 PM
Jul 2020

It has no chance to drop to that level or anywhere close. Trump is absolutely beloved within the GOP. You guys who keep insisting 30% are somehow in denial about that. I played golf today with Trump supporters everywhere in sight. There are Trump signs ringing the course and all the way back home.

Trump dropped to 35% very early in his term, when his language and behavior were somehow shocking. Now that level has no chance to show up again because everything is baked into the electorate.

I don't think it will ever get below 39% before election day. I actually think we are at low right now and the 538 number will move upward toward 42%.

Of course, as a handicapper I always value the totality above the extremes. This is not a primary where everyone thinks the same. You guys with the 30% continue to believe it is like a primary. Meanwhile the nation is 36% conservatives. That should tell you right there about the potential to drop to 30%. This is not George Bush 43 late in his second term when even many of his most adamant supporters had grown weary and were no longer fighting for him, dropping approval below 30% on Gallup.

ProfessorGAC

(65,110 posts)
42. We Disagree
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 07:58 PM
Jul 2020

And you don't seem to understand what I mean by floor.
The floor is the number that binds the data. It will never, under any circumstances fall below that.
Only 25% of voters identify as R. 92% approval among Rs. 92% of 25% is 23%.
Then there are the small government radical Independents. 42% self identified. His approval among that crowd is now around 40%. There's the 39%.
The I's that can be swayed is like a quarter. Take 9 or 10 away, you get around 30.
I didn't pull my estimate out of thin air, Awsi.
What's your math look like?

Demsrule86

(68,618 posts)
33. Last polling show bush at 26% and the recession was not nearly as bad as the
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 04:46 PM
Jul 2020

depression we face. And Bush killed thousands a Katrina...but not hundreds of thousands in a dangerous pandemic. He also didn't send the Gestapo into American cites...Trump will lose badly. This may very well be a realignment election.

Roc2020

(1,616 posts)
24. His die hard base is between
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 03:34 PM
Jul 2020

30 to 35%. So I don't see him going much lower until the election. He might though.

PNW-Dem

(244 posts)
28. What's the matter with Ohio?
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 04:19 PM
Jul 2020

Strange that Trump seems to be hanging in there when his significantly down in the other swing states.

Demsrule86

(68,618 posts)
37. Ohio is now tied in fact Biden has been up...we (Biden campaign) are working it...
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 04:50 PM
Jul 2020

and have good shot of taking this state. Millions out of work here and our pandemic is worsening.

PNW-Dem

(244 posts)
41. That's great news
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 06:16 PM
Jul 2020

Don't get me wrong, that's great news. My point is, why is it even close? What makes about 50% of Ohioans think that Trump is a good choice?

NCDem47

(2,250 posts)
6. Trump's game is old.
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 02:09 PM
Jul 2020

So much of America is cynical and can see through his bullshit if they didn't already before 2016. I hope the stress of him trying harder to clamp down with opposite results drives him mad. No Donnie. You're not dominating anything here.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
27. I think people can
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 04:15 PM
Jul 2020

I think people can figure out he was against masks and social distancing before he was for it and only changed his stance when the polls changed.

Dopers_Greed

(2,640 posts)
11. This pushed him to under 40% on Nate Silver's aggregate
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 02:41 PM
Jul 2020

It has to keep going down though. The Repugs will pull out every stop to steal the election.

 

DanieRains

(4,619 posts)
13. Trump Have Your Gestapo Gas And Beat Up More Moms That Should Help You In The Polls
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 02:43 PM
Jul 2020

I should be careful.

He may take my advice.

Stay safe moms!

Good Trouble!

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
14. He's also murdering his maskless base.
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 02:49 PM
Jul 2020

Get ready for a popcorn shortage. At least on our "side of the aisle".

bucolic_frolic

(43,236 posts)
16. Haley for Pence?
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 03:02 PM
Jul 2020
https://www.politicususa.com/2020/07/27/conservative-bill-kristol-predicts-trump-will-drop-mike-pence-as-vp.html

Posted on Mon, Jul 27th, 2020 by Darragh Roche
Conservative Bill Kristol Predicts Trump Will Drop Mike Pence as VP


Conservative Bill Kristol thinks Donald Trump will drop Mike Pence from the Republican ticket in an attempt to steal the Democratic National Convention’s thunder.

The veteran commentator linked the President’s decision not to throw out the first pitch at the Yankees game in New York next month.

“Because of my strong focus on the China Virus, including scheduled meetings on Vaccines, our economy and much else, I won’t be able to be in New York to throw out the opening pitch for the Yankees on August 15th,” Trump tweeted on Sunday.

Aug. 15 is about when Trump will announce he’s replacing Pence with Haley or someone else. The timing would be intended to steal the spotlight from the Democratic convention which is the next week. https://t.co/3w4vAfdaOr

— Bill Kristol (@BillKristol) July 26, 2020

ffr

(22,671 posts)
20. I wonder if dropping evangelical Pence is in retaliation for evangelicals not signing checks 2 tRump
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 03:15 PM
Jul 2020

This is just getting better and better by the day!

PuppyBismark

(595 posts)
25. no, he needs Pence to Pardon Him after he loses the Election
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 03:56 PM
Jul 2020

After tRump loses the election, he will pardon all his buddies, family, and Pence. Then tRump will resign and Pence will pardon him. If tRump were to pick a new VP, then Pence could be mad enough to not pardon tRump. tRump needs that pardon to avoid any federal prosecution.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
44. No chance. Or it won't help.
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 08:06 PM
Jul 2020

He has lost the suburban vote. Especially the white females.

And while picking Haley may win a few of them, she is hated by his base.

She is not Anglo Saxon, she is first generation Christian and still celebrates her Hindu families holidays and more than anything, she removed the confederate flag from the S Carolina state House. His base blames her for the confederate statue removal trend.

And she is young and too smart to tie herself to this shit show. First one to bail on him.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
18. No realistic person expected Turd to change his tone for more than a day.
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 03:13 PM
Jul 2020

Nor would I expect anybody to buy it - even his fecal followers.

lanlady

(7,135 posts)
30. I'd be surprised if Haley signs up for this
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 04:37 PM
Jul 2020

She'll have to spend the next couple of months defending Trump and then, when he loses, she'll have his stench all over her, especially if he loses bigly.

Haley is young. She'd be better off biding her time until 2024.

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