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stopbush

(24,396 posts)
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 06:22 PM Aug 2020

Senate Rs are going to end up caving and will pass Nancy's Heroes Act

According to Yertle, there are 20 R Senators who refuse to approve any more relief aid whatsoever. That means that D votes are needed to produce a Senate bill. But the prospect of getting 20 D Senators to vote for a R POS package is also nil.

Which puts Pelosi’s Heroes Act from May front and center, with Schumer in the drivers seat. The Heroes Act starts with 47 Yea votes - 45 Ds, 2 Indies - and needs only FOUR R votes to pass. Four. It will not be difficult to get 4 R votes for that bill to pass, and tRump will not veto any bill at this point.

Yertle has backed his caucus into a corner. He will need to put the House bill up for a vote AS IS, with no chance to insert amendments, because he will never be able to produce and pass a Senate version of the bill on which to conference.

He already knows this, and so does Schumer. In truth, it would be in Yertle’s best interest to pass the House bill as so doing provides the excuse for not adopting any of tRump’s odious demands like the payroll tax cut, while also squashing the complaints of his own caucus as they left him no choice.

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stopbush

(24,396 posts)
4. I think Yertle could get 13 votes for cloture, even if he won't get them
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 06:57 PM
Aug 2020

for passage. Public pressure against the delaying tactics in the Senate is already at fever pitch.

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
5. yeah and that's not going to happen
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 06:58 PM
Aug 2020

without some serious watering down of the House bill.

And probably so much so that the Dems won't agree.

So I'm pretty skeptical of anything passing anytime soon, if at all.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,121 posts)
2. those 20 cons are ASSHoles
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 06:30 PM
Aug 2020

Evvery American needs to SCREAM in their FACES LOUDLY whenever they are seen in public

they are KILLERS

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
6. They met today, and they know their seats are on the line, so I suspect they will move quickly.
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 07:17 PM
Aug 2020

They tried to bum rush Nancy and she didn't back down, so they are going to have to move forward.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
7. Oh, no, no, no
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 07:20 PM
Aug 2020

The Senate Republicans don't need to cater to anyone and pass a bill just so their constituents don't go starving, homeless, in the streets come autumn. They can run on their sterling record of governance the last two years, confident that voters will long remember their, uh . . . hmmmm.

 

johnthewoodworker

(694 posts)
9. Why would republicans feel motivated to do anything? So some poor, working class people
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 08:37 PM
Aug 2020

go hungry,better yet for them, get evicted. It's pretty difficult to vote when you're homeless. Those aren't good republican voters anyway. Shut down the post offices, reduce the polling stations, gerrymandered districts, another recipe for success for the republican party. Besides they will just blame the democrats, fox and OAN will repeat that. Problem solved.

Demsrule86

(68,667 posts)
10. It is an election year and McConnell could lose. And the Senate is in trouble...GOP types could lose
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 08:55 PM
Aug 2020

big.

uponit7771

(90,364 posts)
11. Pelsoi should load up then, If nothing is passed the economy crashes, its LITERALLY...
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 09:10 PM
Aug 2020

... been middle class spending that's kept money flowing nationwide, no other explanation seeing 15% of the economy has had little to no production cause of CV

 

Tiger8

(432 posts)
12. If they DON'T do it - then Recession/Depression is 100% the fault of Conservatism
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 09:21 PM
Aug 2020

They have already lost, and they know it.

If Speaker Pelosi's CARES ACT doesn't pass then it's 1932 all over again. I've collected unemployment for only 2 weeks out of my entire 40+ year working career - so I'm not trying to scam anybody like Republicans say. My business is dead because of COVID. I'm pushing 60 so not many people are going to hire me.

Without the $600/week, I will not be able to make payments on loans, taxes, etc. I'm not the only one forced into this situation. The $600/week is working, both for me and the economy. Why change it?

liberalla

(9,260 posts)
14. I'm happy to read your opinion/analysis, and think you may be right.
Sat Aug 1, 2020, 10:47 PM
Aug 2020

I've had this feeling that Pelosi would prevail. Her political instincts and smarts are not to be underestimated. It looks like the R's overplayed their hand, not fully appreciating the dire circumstances, impact of their inaction, and mood in the country.

...and if we can bypass adopting any of drump's 'odious demands', so much the better!

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