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Celerity

(43,475 posts)
5. we never closed the schools under high school level, and the death count in that age group has been
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 12:00 PM
Aug 2020

zero since the start,

Sweden has had one death under 20 years of age the entire time, a 4 year old (not in school) with multiple comorbidities, who died months ago.

Here is official data from our state heath service (Folkhälsomyndigheten)

https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/09f821667ce64bf7be6f9f87457ed9aa

1 death birth to 4 years of age
5yo to 19yo zero deaths since it started
20 to 29yo 9 deaths
30 to 39yo 16 deaths total

17 school age (5 to 19yo) students in Sweden have ended up in intensive care, all recovered.

The bottom half, age-wise of the nation, has had 26 total deaths, almost all of them months ago.

Adjusting for population size, that would translate out to the equivalent of 858 total deaths for the youngest 165 million people in the US.

They are going to open the high schools (some opened for summer classes and a few never closed at all) soon, and are debating fully opening the universities (again some have had summer classes).

99% of deaths here have been 50yo and up

96% have been 60yo and up

90% have been 70yo and up

68% have been 80yo and up

26% have been 90 years of age or older


Here is the US data from the CDC (it needs to be updated)

https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-COVID-19-Death-Counts-by-Sex-Age-and-S/9bhg-hcku/data




here is our daily death count here in Sweden

thsi is the only truly accurate count

the data sources that people use on here (Worldometers, John Hopkins, etc etc) are not accurate for Sweden at all, as they are just raw data reported that day, the deaths are not sorted as to when they actually happened and are always overstated due to the lack of sorting.

https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/09f821667ce64bf7be6f9f87457ed9aa

Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
6. "the deaths are not sorted as to when they actually happened and are always overstated..."
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 12:57 PM
Aug 2020

"the deaths are not sorted as to when they actually happened and are always overstated due to the lack of sorting."

Can you clarify that statement? Just simple sorting would not create more records of deaths, but may change the order when they appear.

I think there is more detail to that which you just didn't have time to explain, but I'm very curious...

Celerity

(43,475 posts)
7. when raw data comes in, and is collected, it is not sorted by when the deaths actually occurred here
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 01:09 PM
Aug 2020

Sometimes, due to delays (holidays, weekends, etc) the numbers are actually from multiple days.Folkhälsomyndigheten goes back and sorts the actual date of death on their website and assigns it to the proper day. There can be a lag there too of a couple days as there are delays in reporting.

The delays (and even sometimes delayed cumulative mass data dumps that have occurred) can lead to a false picture that overstates deaths on a certain day or period if you incorrectly assume they happened within the 24 hour period in which they were initially reported.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
3. That is triply sad.
Sun Aug 2, 2020, 11:47 PM
Aug 2020

Germany has roughly 66% of the population that we do, but it has lost around 90% fewer people so far, and we are steadily opening that death gap. I honestly can’t see why anyone considers Trump to be competent at anything.

Celerity

(43,475 posts)
8. your maths are off, 66% of the US's population would be around 218.5 million people
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 01:17 PM
Aug 2020

Germany has roughly 25.3% of the US population



Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
11. I got the German population wrong. So it has just over 1/4 the population that we do, but
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 05:27 PM
Aug 2020

~ 90% fewer deaths. Their situation is being dealt with far better than the USA’s situation.

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