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whttevrr

(2,345 posts)
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 08:44 PM Aug 2020

Un-Sourced Pictures of Tweets? Why?

Un-sourced tweets are not always an accurate portrayal.

A picture of a tweet from a year ago is different than a tweet posted today. Context matters.

I understand that some can not access the link to tweets and it is commendable to make those posts accessible to those who don't tweet. But, not including the source link seems troublesome. A faked picture can be passed along with inaccurate or out of context information and now is not the time to be imprecise.

Truth and context are important things.

There are and will be a lot of provocateurs posting here. It is important to keep sources identified. Providing sources allows people to view information in its original context and prevent dubious information from being spread.

Please include source links when you post someones tweet.

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Un-Sourced Pictures of Tweets? Why? (Original Post) whttevrr Aug 2020 OP
Anyone? whttevrr Aug 2020 #1
As I write this it's 15 minutes since your original post and 8 minutes since your "Anyone? post. JHB Aug 2020 #2
I have asked a couple posters for their source here in the last couple days. whttevrr Aug 2020 #6
I haven't seen examples of what you're on about. Codeine Aug 2020 #3
see post 6 whttevrr Aug 2020 #7
hahaha. keep trying SiliconValley_Dem Aug 2020 #4
yeah, seems uphill whttevrr Aug 2020 #8
This feels Very Much Like A Hall Monitor Post Me. Aug 2020 #5
I know, right? whttevrr Aug 2020 #9
It MIght Be Your Karma Me. Aug 2020 #10
Hopefully, there's not a problem with this pic of a tweet. Different Drummer Aug 2020 #11
But, why not link to the source? whttevrr Aug 2020 #12
Sometimes when people come across images on Twitter like the one Denzil_DC Aug 2020 #20
Thanks for the link. I appreciate your effort. whttevrr Aug 2020 #22
I don't need to go to Twitter to know that's hilarious. chriscan64 Aug 2020 #13
True, but I'd like to see the rest. whttevrr Aug 2020 #14
I'll take an honest shot at this one without sarcasm. herding cats Aug 2020 #15
Meh, I guess... whttevrr Aug 2020 #17
Exactly! herding cats Aug 2020 #19
I try to post both as well; with text included. whttevrr Aug 2020 #21
My druthers would be to have a Tweet forum and keep tweets out of PufPuf23 Aug 2020 #16
Veracity could become an issue. whttevrr Aug 2020 #18
Unsourced tweets don't bother me at all canetoad Aug 2020 #23
Screenshot or it didn't happen SlogginThroughIt Aug 2020 #24

JHB

(37,161 posts)
2. As I write this it's 15 minutes since your original post and 8 minutes since your "Anyone? post.
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 09:03 PM
Aug 2020

Perhaps could you provide examples of what you're talking about? Not everybody sees everything, and your OP was sort of a "nods head, but what else is there to say?" sort of affair.

Not sure what you were expecting in the space of 15 minutes.

whttevrr

(2,345 posts)
6. I have asked a couple posters for their source here in the last couple days.
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 09:30 PM
Aug 2020

It's not like "OMG, The Horror!" but it seems troubling that it is common enough for my casual browsing to see something like this:



With no link to the source tweet. Where if that information is provided it would be obvious that this tweet is from 2018.

From the image above you can't see that this is two years old.

But here you can:


 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
3. I haven't seen examples of what you're on about.
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 09:06 PM
Aug 2020

As you say “context matters”, so provide some.

whttevrr

(2,345 posts)
9. I know, right?
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 09:37 PM
Aug 2020

I've been reading here for years. And I see posts that complain about using certain sources and how it shouldn't be done here. We're better than that, etc.

But I have lately being seeing more post of images that represent tweets that are not attributed to a source. It is probably pedantic of me.

I was just wondering if anyone else had an issue with un-sourced material being posted?

Ya know?

whttevrr

(2,345 posts)
12. But, why not link to the source?
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 10:00 PM
Aug 2020

It takes more effort to upload a cropped picture than it does to copy and paste a link.

Plus, isn't it right to give credit to the original post?

And, what has been cropped out?

Denzil_DC

(7,244 posts)
20. Sometimes when people come across images on Twitter like the one
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 10:29 PM
Aug 2020

Different Drummer linked for you, the source may not be cited by whoever's tweet they copied and hotlinked it from. (And quite often people will use image links for tweets that have been deleted, to preserve them.) The image becomes, in effect, a standalone meme.

In the case of the tweet image Different Drummer posted, we can see it's from @FrankConniff on 3 August.



So one way to try to find the original if it matters to you would be to go to Frank Conniff's twitter account and see whether you can find it there. Which I just did:




Frank Conniff
@FrankConniff

Chuck Todd to NBC exec: "So, you're moving my show to 1pm?"

NBC Exec: "Yep."

He never found out why because he doesn't ask follow-up questions.


Otherwise, you can try Googling a phrase from the tweet, but the success of that can be mixed.

whttevrr

(2,345 posts)
22. Thanks for the link. I appreciate your effort.
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 10:46 PM
Aug 2020

It also gave me small joy to click the link and watch the tweet open in a new tab. I literally chuckled aloud.

Several times now because of that picture/tweet I have either smiled or chuckled audibly; once earlier today when I first saw it, again when it was posted in this thread, and again when I clicked your link.

I fucking loathe Chuck Todd:

Inform the Public? Not My Job, Says Chuck Todd
https://fair.org/home/inform-the-public-not-my-job-says-chuck-todd/

Appearing on MSNBC‘s Morning Joe today (9/18/13), Todd responded to Ed Rendell’s claim that Obamacare opponents are full of misinformation about the program by explaining that this was because Republicans “have successfully messaged against it.” But wasn’t journalism’s job to expose misinformation? No, Todd insisted; if the public was misinformed about the Affordable Care Act, it was the president’s fault for not pushing back:

What I always love is people say, “Well, it’s you folks’ fault in the media.” No, it’s the president of the United States’ fault for not selling it.

It’s sad that NBC‘s White House correspondent thinks his job is merely to convey politicians pronouncements, with no care about whether they are true or false. In fact, scrutinizing claims, particularly those from powerful officials, is an essential part of journalism. It’s embarrassing to have to cite elementary principles to one the nation’s most influential reporters, but Todd should consider reviewing the Society of Professional Journalists’ Code of Ethics, where, under the heading “Seek Truth and Report It,” the very first tenet implores journalists to “test the accuracy of information from all sources.”


Fuck that over paid piece of shit.

Thank god I have that image above this reply to give me another smile once I hit the "Post my reply!" button.

YAY!

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
15. I'll take an honest shot at this one without sarcasm.
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 10:09 PM
Aug 2020

Times are changing. It's the natural evolution of things. People now, amongst themselves, take a pic of a reddit, Snapchat, Twitter, Insta or FB post and text it. If it's private and you're not on the account that's the only way. Also, looks better and saves the other party another clickthrough, and some of their precious time. Not to mention these things are deleted at a manic rate anymore. If the party on the other side wants to read more, they look up the account and read it or ask for the link. They're not as "link required!!" as people were in the early '00's. But don't expect to get away with deleting content, because they and all their peers have screenshots with time stamps. That's how it works now.

It's just a symptom of how we're evolving in our sharing. Me, I just look it up if I want verification. But, you do you.

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
19. Exactly!
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 10:25 PM
Aug 2020

It irks me, too. I've just learned to adapt and I send links and screenshots when I text/post back. JIK, they want them. To me it's about polite, to them it's about speed. I get both sides.

whttevrr

(2,345 posts)
21. I try to post both as well; with text included.
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 10:37 PM
Aug 2020

I will screenshot and crop for those who do not have access and post a link for those who wish to follow up or see the tweet in its source format.

But I also like to copy and paste the actual text of the tweet to help with search optimization. Links with text allow web bots to crawl sources and make the search ranking more robust. If it is information I want to share, I want to share it all.

#penceforpresident

Added hashtag for trump trolling. The idea of trump suspicious of pence because of a twitter hashtag is not too absurd an idea for 2020.

I tried to post it a bunch of times on twitter but got twitter restrained. ha ha ha.

PufPuf23

(8,799 posts)
16. My druthers would be to have a Tweet forum and keep tweets out of
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 10:10 PM
Aug 2020

General Discussion and other forums.

And yes folks should be aware of veracity and context of what they post in general.

whttevrr

(2,345 posts)
18. Veracity could become an issue.
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 10:18 PM
Aug 2020

2016 was so sad...

The trolls and misinformation was everywhere and really has not stopped.

I think posts that are not original works of the author should at least have a link back to the source.

canetoad

(17,169 posts)
23. Unsourced tweets don't bother me at all
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 11:59 PM
Aug 2020

They are used in the same way as memes. I haven't seen one that doesn't include the Twitter handle of the poster, so if I could be bothered, there are ways of chasing it down.

Life's too short to demand attribution for every tweet.

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