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KKKobach losing KS senate by 17% in primary (Original Post) demtenjeep Aug 2020 OP
Bummer that is an easier race to win bottomofthehill Aug 2020 #1
I stopped rooting for the opponent that was MurrayDelph Aug 2020 #22
Except for Roy Moore Polybius Aug 2020 #23
Yep..many rooted for trump to win nomination because Demovictory9 Aug 2020 #33
He would have lost decisively had it not been for James Comey. (eom) StevieM Aug 2020 #34
Bummer that is an easier race to win bottomofthehill Aug 2020 #2
Just came to say the same thing soothsayer Aug 2020 #3
Odd, looks like I am repeating myself bottomofthehill Aug 2020 #5
If Kobach loses, wouldn't that make the race competitive? no_hypocrisy Aug 2020 #4
Kobach is so obnoxious, the Democrats would have a chance at beating him. Patterson Aug 2020 #6
Exactly. So if Kobach is NOT the republican candidate, the race is now competitive. no_hypocrisy Aug 2020 #9
We have a good chance of taking the seat if Kobach is the nominee. Ace Rothstein Aug 2020 #16
Got to flip 3 and have the VP bottomofthehill Aug 2020 #11
Kobach would be easier to beat. nt Blue_true Aug 2020 #13
being in Kansas demtenjeep Aug 2020 #7
i hear ya, Arkansas right next door to you where my inlaws live is pretty bad as well onetexan Aug 2020 #14
Well, isn't that just peachy... TreasonousBastard Aug 2020 #8
How do more Repubs voting in the primary Phoenix61 Aug 2020 #15
Possibly nothing, but it just shows that this time the Rs were out there voting. TreasonousBastard Aug 2020 #18
Democrats did not have a competitive race, republicans did. Blue_true Aug 2020 #17
That would be a reason for low D turnout. TreasonousBastard Aug 2020 #20
The democrat is a very strong candidate. Once she announced, that cleared the field. nt Blue_true Aug 2020 #24
I usually hesitate to comment too much on races outside of my area because there are so many... TreasonousBastard Aug 2020 #27
She is a former moderate republican who saw the light during Brownback's Blue_true Aug 2020 #28
From her Wikipedia entry... TreasonousBastard Aug 2020 #32
Dang. He would've been easier to beat. blm Aug 2020 #10
I'm a Kansan, and I LOATHE Kobach TlalocW Aug 2020 #12
I hear you. Learned my lesson on who to moonscape Aug 2020 #21
It went far beyond just Kobach. Republican models for the past 8 plus months Celerity Aug 2020 #35
He lost xmas74 Aug 2020 #19
Bob Hamilton - The last plumber on the planet I would call, if up to my neck in shit hatrack Aug 2020 #25
At least we will never have to see his campaign commercials again. xmas74 Aug 2020 #30
Didja hear?!? Bob Hamilton really likes GUNS!! He has TWELVE CHILDREN!!! hatrack Aug 2020 #36
Who is Bob Hamilton? nt Blue_true Aug 2020 #26
A plumber with his nose firmly in Trump's ass xmas74 Aug 2020 #31
so happy to hear this SiliconValley_Dem Aug 2020 #29

MurrayDelph

(5,299 posts)
22. I stopped rooting for the opponent that was
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 10:41 PM
Aug 2020

"easier to beat" when I realized that frequently resulted in their worst candidate actually getting the job.

no_hypocrisy

(46,130 posts)
4. If Kobach loses, wouldn't that make the race competitive?
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 09:55 PM
Aug 2020

I heard commentary today that KS is key to Democrats taking control of the Senate.

Ace Rothstein

(3,164 posts)
16. We have a good chance of taking the seat if Kobach is the nominee.
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 10:12 PM
Aug 2020

If he loses the primary it is highly unlikely we flip that. Kobach is that awful.

bottomofthehill

(8,335 posts)
11. Got to flip 3 and have the VP
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 10:04 PM
Aug 2020

Maine, Arizona, Colorado, Iowa, North Carolina, Montana.

May need an extra to offset Alabama loss so 4 plus VP = Senate majority. There are some outside shots too, one in Georgia or South Carolina. Either of those would be sweet.

onetexan

(13,043 posts)
14. i hear ya, Arkansas right next door to you where my inlaws live is pretty bad as well
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 10:10 PM
Aug 2020

Apparently Kobach is a bit too racist for even the rabid base.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
8. Well, isn't that just peachy...
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 09:58 PM
Aug 2020

Marshall has a much better chance of winning and keeping the seat R.

The 24% primary results show so far that R turnout is about twice D voters, which adds to the problem.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
17. Democrats did not have a competitive race, republicans did.
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 10:12 PM
Aug 2020

It look like republicans are choosing the candidate that is most difficult for our nominee to beat, but in that race the democratic nominee is very solid. Even if the less crazy republican is nominated, our nominee still has a good shot at winning.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
27. I usually hesitate to comment too much on races outside of my area because there are so many...
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 11:25 PM
Aug 2020

local things outsiders don't know much about. Like that no Democrat has won a Kansas Senate seat since 1932, but Bollier seems to have some deep rooted popularity.

There's this:

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/the-republican-trainwreck-in-kansas-wont-end-even-if-kris-kobach-loses_n_5f289b67c5b656e9b09f40ad

Senate Majority PAC, which is controlled by allies of Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) and has a deep war chest, said it is likely to invest in the state regardless of who wins the GOP primary. The pro-firearm control group Everytown for Gun Safety, bankrolled by billionaire former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, also considering coming to Bollier’s aid after key Democratic victories in the state two years ago.

“I think Kansas is just a really different place politically than it was a couple of cycles ago,” said Charlie Kelly, the senior political advisor for Everytown. “Obviously the governor’s race” was an indicator of that in 2018, along with Democrat Sharice Davids capturing one of the state’s four House seats, he said.


So lessee how it goes. I'd throw her some money if I had any.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
28. She is a former moderate republican who saw the light during Brownback's
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 11:35 PM
Aug 2020

misadministration and switched parties to stop him. After switching, she put together a solid performance as a democrat, leading the effort on a lot of issues like school funding and healthcare access. I believe that I read that she is a Medical Doctor.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
32. From her Wikipedia entry...
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 01:06 AM
Aug 2020
After earning her MD, Bollier joined her father's practice at Surgicenter of Kansas City, one of the first freestanding outpatient surgery centers in America.[2]

Bollier retired from medicine in 1999.[3] She initially took a year off to help care for a family member, but then became increasingly involved as a volunteer with the Center for Practical Bioethics.[2] She also was active on the Shawnee Mission Education Foundation Board.[4]


Sounds like someone we could use in DC.

TlalocW

(15,384 posts)
12. I'm a Kansan, and I LOATHE Kobach
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 10:08 PM
Aug 2020

I understand that Marshall makes the race more competitive, if but this eliminates the possibility that voter-disenfranchising, white-supremacist-hanging-on son-of-a-bitch gets a shot at being one of my senators, I'm okay with it. What I worry about is Kobach lost in an off-year election. In a presidential election year, more people will come out to vote - which I'm fine with because I'm not Kobach - and Kobach could get the spill-off from the, "I don't care how big an idiot he is, as long as he owns the libtards," vote that is what got Trump elected in the first place.

TlalocW

moonscape

(4,673 posts)
21. I hear you. Learned my lesson on who to
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 10:40 PM
Aug 2020

root for in Reb primaries. I was elated when Trump got the nomination because I thought he was the only candidate we were guaranteed to beat.

Never again. If they’re truly vile and dangerous, even the smallest percentage chace isn’t worth it.

Celerity

(43,422 posts)
35. It went far beyond just Kobach. Republican models for the past 8 plus months
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 04:22 AM
Aug 2020

showed an almost 100% chance of them losing the House, Senate and POTUS had Kobach won. This was due to the depressed turnout of 'regular' non MAGAt fanatic Rethugs and moderates/indies, who they fear will haemorrhage off. Kobach winning would have been a sure sign of this meta trend.

hatrack

(59,587 posts)
25. Bob Hamilton - The last plumber on the planet I would call, if up to my neck in shit
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 10:58 PM
Aug 2020

Pandering, steaming 24-karat bullshit ads that made 30 seconds feel like a geologic age.

xmas74

(29,674 posts)
30. At least we will never have to see his campaign commercials again.
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 11:47 PM
Aug 2020

We'll still see those damn plumbing commercials

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