Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 11:39 AM Aug 2020

NYAG announces they will sue to dissolve the NRA for corruption and charity fraud.



Names named:

Wayne LaPierre
Woody Phillips
Joshua Powell
John Frazier

Charged with failing to manage NRA funds, and comply with state laws governing not-for-profit finances.

Fostered a culture of non-compliance, that led to the waste and loss of millions of assets.

Audit committee of the Board is charged with violating their reporting duties.

34 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
NYAG announces they will sue to dissolve the NRA for corruption and charity fraud. (Original Post) ehrnst Aug 2020 OP
They will sue to disband the NRA DrToast Aug 2020 #1
This is bigger than it seems StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #2
Are you thinking... OneGrassRoot Aug 2020 #10
Maybeeee ... StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #14
Indeed, there is a well known synergy between the NRA and the GOP. drray23 Aug 2020 #11
From Jan 2019, Everytown USA piece on NRA/GOP/Russia... OneGrassRoot Aug 2020 #18
oh yes thats right. i had forgotten about their russian money laundering operations. drray23 Aug 2020 #19
See ya. nt Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2020 #3
Excellent. dalton99a Aug 2020 #4
Ok. Didn't see that coming. underpants Aug 2020 #5
Great news, but disappointing because no one associated with trump is involved. George II Aug 2020 #6
Don't be so sure StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #9
Don't be so sure DrToast Aug 2020 #13
Cy Vance the very slow has the financial fraud on the hellbeast and his grifting people irisblue Aug 2020 #15
Stay tuned. I wouldn't be surprised if they find some dirty business The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2020 #22
I sort of remember hearing that the NRA's contributions PRETZEL Aug 2020 #31
From her office twitter irisblue Aug 2020 #7
Well, that would be one conduit for Russian money laundering that would be out of commission. woodsprite Aug 2020 #8
And the NY AG literally has the receipts StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #12
Yup! That would cut off one 'head', at least 8 more left. nt woodsprite Aug 2020 #21
Whats the over under on the how long it takes for the stupid Trump tweet about... jcgoldie Aug 2020 #16
Wow, LaPierre is fucked. Maybe he'll be jailed. panader0 Aug 2020 #17
Why no indictments for individuals? JT45242 Aug 2020 #20
Because the AG hasn't taken jurisdiction over these crimes. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2020 #24
Any word from any of the NY DA offices if they will be pursuing charges? JT45242 Aug 2020 #25
HQ is in Virginia. Registration is in NY. ehrnst Aug 2020 #26
That would be a different investigation, and noto one done by the SD AG. ehrnst Aug 2020 #27
Can't wait for Rachel's show tonight GreatCaesarsGhost Aug 2020 #23
I can't wait for the real forensic examinations of their records to occur. 😂 TheBlackAdder Aug 2020 #28
I am ready to see the NRA dry up and blow away. SoonerPride Aug 2020 #29
They're probably already fundraising off today's announcement. BannonsLiver Aug 2020 #30
Unless there is going to be much more dirt forthcoming.... SlogginThroughIt Aug 2020 #32
you do you obamanut2012 Aug 2020 #33
Thanks? SlogginThroughIt Aug 2020 #34

drray23

(7,637 posts)
11. Indeed, there is a well known synergy between the NRA and the GOP.
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 11:44 AM
Aug 2020

The two are intertwined. After all, for many years they were pretty much the kingmaker. If you were GOP you had to have a good rating from the NRA to get elected.

drray23

(7,637 posts)
19. oh yes thats right. i had forgotten about their russian money laundering operations.
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 11:50 AM
Aug 2020

There is some much crap going on , its hard to remember them all but yes now that you mention it, I remember. It barely made a bleep in the media sphere when it came out given all the other scandals trump was feeding them daily.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
9. Don't be so sure
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 11:44 AM
Aug 2020

The NY AG is all up in the NRA's business now.

Some Republicans close to Trump are probably scared to death right now ...

Think about it ... This goes much deeper than it may appear.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,847 posts)
22. Stay tuned. I wouldn't be surprised if they find some dirty business
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 11:54 AM
Aug 2020

involving Trump, his family, his businesses and his campaign in which the NRA was laundering Russian or other money. The NRA has been up Trump's ass since the beginning of his campaign and has Russian connections. Remember Maria Butina? That would be handled by the Manhattan D.A., though. The state A.G. doesn't have jurisdiction over those crimes.

PRETZEL

(3,245 posts)
31. I sort of remember hearing that the NRA's contributions
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 12:45 PM
Aug 2020

exponentially increased during the 2016 cycle. I wonder if that is what put the NRA on their radar?

Ms. Butina may have only been used to put a pretty face on their backrooom dealings.

woodsprite

(11,924 posts)
8. Well, that would be one conduit for Russian money laundering that would be out of commission.
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 11:44 AM
Aug 2020

and a way to starve the Repubs from "redirected" funding.

jcgoldie

(11,646 posts)
16. Whats the over under on the how long it takes for the stupid Trump tweet about...
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 11:47 AM
Aug 2020

... the poor NRA being victimized by a democrat hoax in NY coming for your guns 'Merca?

panader0

(25,816 posts)
17. Wow, LaPierre is fucked. Maybe he'll be jailed.
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 11:47 AM
Aug 2020

Plus, when the NRA members learn of his outrageous personal expenditures with their money,
many will quit.

JT45242

(2,293 posts)
20. Why no indictments for individuals?
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 11:52 AM
Aug 2020

I am curious why there do not appear to be criminal charges for any of these guys or the accountants or any one else?

Plus there must be emails threatening law makers who do not toe the line. That would probably get you into bribery charges...

They never seem to push it across the finish line.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,847 posts)
24. Because the AG hasn't taken jurisdiction over these crimes.
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 11:57 AM
Aug 2020

Last edited Thu Aug 6, 2020, 12:47 PM - Edit history (1)

This is a civil action to dissolve the NRA, not criminal charges. Those would be handled by the Manhattan DA upon referral from the AG.

JT45242

(2,293 posts)
25. Any word from any of the NY DA offices if they will be pursuing charges?
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 12:05 PM
Aug 2020

Would it have to be Manhattan because of HQ?

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
27. That would be a different investigation, and noto one done by the SD AG.
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 12:25 PM
Aug 2020

This was concerning financial regulations concerning non-profits, and self-dealing.

I'm not sure which juridiction would be covering various attempted bribes and threats - besides, I don't think the NRA would be blatant about a bribe or a threat in an email, where it would be part of a paper trail.

It would be up to the official to report a threat.

 

SlogginThroughIt

(1,977 posts)
32. Unless there is going to be much more dirt forthcoming....
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 12:50 PM
Aug 2020

Unless there is going to be much more dirt forthcoming.... am I the only one that thinks this is going to work against us? I get that it may cut off some money from Russia but they will always find way sto funnel it in and it turns off a lot of people to us IMO. I want to believe that with everything that has happened to kids in school that the gun issue can be a winner for us but historically it hasn't. Even though Americans favor sensible gun laws. And I KNOW that this is sort of separate being this is just the NRA but they will frame it as Dems taking their rights away.

I dunno I just feel like this wasn't the tie to announce this. Feels like a politically stupid move.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»NYAG announces they will ...