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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCan we end run the constitution to get rid of a madman?
Unfortunately, no. The house impeached him and the Republican senate let him off the hook.
The 25th Amendment? That would take his cabinet turning on him. Ain't gonna happen.
A third way? Doesn't exist.
America is totally fucked right now. We have a lunatic madman hanging out on golf courses. And we have a Republican senate that consists of frightened co-conspirators trying to hold onto power.
Turns out that those who wrote the constitution couldn't foresee the Trump creature.
Can we stop them from stealing the upcoming election?
Our country, our constitution, our freedoms, our very existence is hanging by a thread right now.
Many are out in the streets being beaten as was the great John Lewis. All are seeing it on TV, yet, there seems to be no other defense or response than -- VOTE.
And if they steal this election, the horror will only get worse.
To me, it seems as though the constitution, written over 200 years ago, doesn't contain the seeds of justice for today's world.
So here's my question. What do we do?
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I wish I knew the answer.
We can only hope that Mother Nature sweeps in to save us here in the home stretch. Otherwise, we are fucked.
Glorfindel
(9,730 posts)We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
"It is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government..."
What could be clearer?
Cyrano
(15,041 posts)Lock him up.
(6,933 posts)But it is unrealistic for 20th-21st-Century ones, unless the MIC gets on the side of the revolution.
You can't win if the MIC "follows the orders" of a corrupt, lawless, Fascistic gang$teR Regime as it is now.
You don't go to fight the current tanks, war planes, drones, missiles, nukes. They did not foresee those.
Vote in large-enough numbers and pray they won't manage to steal it anyway.
Massively peaceful hunger strikes could do it, but it's not going to happen in large-enough numbers.
It's still possible we'll have a Biden administration (got to keep working for it), and in the first 100 days (if pardons can be proven to be "corrupt" , it will be mandatory to:
RICO THE TRUMP MOB$TEr$ AND ALL THEIr ACCOMPLICE$
fleur-de-lisa
(14,627 posts)They didnt foresee a complicit Senate.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Homeland security should remove him & all coconspirators.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)I would think he done enough for another impeachment already.
But someone would have to be willing to go to jail.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)House should keep impeaching every few days to tie up MM & Senate, exposing chump's crimes to the people.
Ponietz
(2,985 posts)He was delegated by law and SHOULD have stopped it. What a pathetically weak character, a kind of Neville Chamberlain.
TheProle
(2,179 posts)Do everything to maximize turnout from the likeminded and welcome others into the tent, even if it takes swallowing pride and foregoing the endorphin rush of dunking on political adversaries at the expense of the real, unsexy and not-always-exciting work of defeating an incumbent president.