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groundloop

(11,519 posts)
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 05:24 AM Aug 2020

Why most parents shouldn't home school

I stumbled upon this ad for home school books, and can't help but cringe when I think of this person trying to teach grimmer to a child (and probably math, science, or just about anything).



Homeschool books. Ask for prices. Most hasn’t been wrote in. The ones that were wrote in was only a few pages.

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Why most parents shouldn't home school (Original Post) groundloop Aug 2020 OP
Or spelling (wink) PJMcK Aug 2020 #1
I thought that was done intentionally(?) BigmanPigman Aug 2020 #2
You're probably right PJMcK Aug 2020 #8
If parents can or don't have time they shouldn't worry about it. What they should do is JI7 Aug 2020 #3
Many on line classes gab13by13 Aug 2020 #4
Depends on the child Freddie Aug 2020 #5
I actually have ADHD...and computer learning is much better for me and for my son as well. Demsrule86 Aug 2020 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Aug 2020 #33
Self-teaching doesn't work for a lot of children. Ilsa Aug 2020 #7
I'm saying they can just read a book also . This is just something temporary so Parents don't have JI7 Aug 2020 #9
We don't know how temporary this is. Ilsa Aug 2020 #10
The problem right now is as a country we aren't doing much to deal with this JI7 Aug 2020 #11
I agree with everything you said there. NT Ilsa Aug 2020 #12
We are in a middle of a pandemic...the important thing as far as I am concerned is to keep my Demsrule86 Aug 2020 #16
Absolutely. No one should be back in class until Ilsa Aug 2020 #30
In the meantime...the reality is if kids are behind due to Corona...not the end of the world. Demsrule86 Aug 2020 #31
depends on the age SlogginThroughIt Aug 2020 #24
You made me laugh... PCIntern Aug 2020 #6
Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning? Cirque du So-What Aug 2020 #13
I taught my kids how to read and also math while they were attending school... Demsrule86 Aug 2020 #14
I concur! SheltieLover Aug 2020 #18
I agree with everything you said...taught in Georgia briefly... akin to child abuse. Demsrule86 Aug 2020 #19
I cannot even imagine working in such an environment! SheltieLover Aug 2020 #22
We crave normalcy...but if the price we pay will be dead children, I say no...hell no. Demsrule86 Aug 2020 #25
I'm with you on this! SheltieLover Aug 2020 #27
Also, my hubs was reared by an immigrant parent (Irish) who Demsrule86 Aug 2020 #20
Note: "home school" is much different than "virtual learning" which is happening during COVID. cbdo2007 Aug 2020 #17
I feel parental involvement is an asset and could enhance virtual learning. I taught for years Demsrule86 Aug 2020 #21
Absolutely! SheltieLover Aug 2020 #23
It was terrible. We were asked to drive kids as young as 14 out of school so as to improve Demsrule86 Aug 2020 #26
Anything for scores! 🤬 SheltieLover Aug 2020 #28
Yes definitely, but it is much less than we had in the Spring when cbdo2007 Aug 2020 #29
The kids being sent back to school with inadequate testing and contract tracing are Demsrule86 Aug 2020 #32
Yep, exactly why we are keeping ours home. Much of the opening is all for funding... cbdo2007 Aug 2020 #34

JI7

(89,252 posts)
3. If parents can or don't have time they shouldn't worry about it. What they should do is
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 06:13 AM
Aug 2020

something like set aside some time where their kids have to do school work. They either follow their school provided lessons/plans if that is available. But if not just having them read would be ok also.

gab13by13

(21,360 posts)
4. Many on line classes
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 06:52 AM
Aug 2020

don't have a teacher doing the teaching, they use a teacher's aid. My daughter (Pa. outside Pittsburgh) is torn about what choice to make with her 1st grader. She would do just fine home schooling him but he would be devastated not being able to go to school.

Freddie

(9,267 posts)
5. Depends on the child
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 07:07 AM
Aug 2020

My granddaughter has ADHD and the online school in the spring was a disaster for her. She does fine in the classroom (with minor accommodations and she takes Concerta) but simply doesn’t have the attention span or self-motivation to do it at home.

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
15. I actually have ADHD...and computer learning is much better for me and for my son as well.
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 08:55 AM
Aug 2020

The computer is the great equalizer. I find the classroom full of distractions. I do not take medicine anymore but still have to use coping tools. I also follow a diet (try but cheat sometimes) that helps.

Response to Freddie (Reply #5)

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
7. Self-teaching doesn't work for a lot of children.
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 07:41 AM
Aug 2020

They don't have the focus or executive skills to stay on task, and one kind of explanation for material doesn't work for all children. That's where teaching, as a profession, comes in.

JI7

(89,252 posts)
9. I'm saying they can just read a book also . This is just something temporary so Parents don't have
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 07:47 AM
Aug 2020

stress if they are unable to teach them.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
10. We don't know how temporary this is.
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 07:51 AM
Aug 2020

This could go on for the remainder of a semester, even into early next year. That would require a lot of catching up.

We may not be out of this until enough people are vaccinated to create community immunity.

JI7

(89,252 posts)
11. The problem right now is as a country we aren't doing much to deal with this
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 07:56 AM
Aug 2020

i'm hoping we get a new President and then we can finally try to deal with this as other countries have.

We need to do a few things like make sure all homes, especially with school age children have internet access so they can learn from home.

We need to make sure people have enough money so at least one adult can stay at home if they have small children.

These are things we should be doing right now but aren't so we just have to wait.

Parents will not be able to effectively make sure their kids are learning if they are stressed over money and just being able to provide basic needs.

Kids can catch up with winter and summer sessions assuming this does not last long. By this I don't mean the virus itself but the lack of leadership with Trump.

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
16. We are in a middle of a pandemic...the important thing as far as I am concerned is to keep my
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 08:58 AM
Aug 2020

children alive.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
30. Absolutely. No one should be back in class until
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 05:28 PM
Aug 2020

it is safe to do so. All I'm saying is that not all children are cut out for self-directed learning, or even tele-classes. It isn't fair to expect everyone to be able to open a planner and teach themselves.Therefore, we need to make school safe again.

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
31. In the meantime...the reality is if kids are behind due to Corona...not the end of the world.
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 05:32 PM
Aug 2020

I think parents can teach their kids in many cases.

PCIntern

(25,556 posts)
6. You made me laugh...
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 07:38 AM
Aug 2020

Many years ago when Alfred Hitchcock’s film The Birds was released, the tagline was “The Birds is coming”!

Mad magazine added: ...and good grammar has went!.

Of course the film is singular and so grammatically it is correct, however, well, it is funny!

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
14. I taught my kids how to read and also math while they were attending school...
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 08:52 AM
Aug 2020

Kids can die from Covid...and the only reason IMHO their numbers are lower is because they were taken out of school in March. I will not send my kids back to school until Covid is conquered with a vaccine or a lifesaving treatment.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
18. I concur!
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 09:52 AM
Aug 2020

First, if kids are being reared by functionally illiterate parents, those dynamics have already been deeply instilled in them, sadly. I encounter this every time I venture out of my home in this area.

Also, while it may seem surreal depending upon where you live, there is nothing to ensure teachers are actually qualified to do the jobs they are hired to do. Many are and they work very hard, for sure. But poor grammar and absolute lack of skills in their area of "expertise" is often not uncommon, again, depending upon where you live. Trust me on this one. I would never have believed this before moving to this area.

Finally, I would never send an innocent child into a school during this pandemic. To do so, in my opinion, is grossly irresponsible. Why anyone would follow tRump's mandate to put kids on his altar for slaughter is beyond me. Mind boggling!

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
19. I agree with everything you said...taught in Georgia briefly... akin to child abuse.
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 10:33 AM
Aug 2020

So. I went into business...and my principal was cheating on tests and had worse grammar than Trump. He was an embarrassment...could not speak correctly. Education can be made up by parents and schools...but death is permanent...and I think kids will die if sent to Covid filled schools.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
22. I cannot even imagine working in such an environment!
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 10:52 AM
Aug 2020

Yes, it is akin to child abuse!

The high school principal in my district frequeny walks around the school with no shoes on, stinking of alcohol, and ungroomed.

No one will take action against him. Likely related to someone "important." Southern "justice" prevails.

And this in a "really good" school district.

I couldn't agree more about keeping kids out of schools during the pandemic! It is beyond ridiculous to insist on everything being as it was pre-pandemic.

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
20. Also, my hubs was reared by an immigrant parent (Irish) who
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 10:37 AM
Aug 2020

quit school in the the sixth grade...but read extensively. He had to help his family. Hubs was the last of five kids and his Dad was 52 when he was born. He made sure hubs received an education ...including college. Hub's Dad researched subjects so he could help. Parents can teach kids especially at the lower levels if they work at it.

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
17. Note: "home school" is much different than "virtual learning" which is happening during COVID.
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 09:21 AM
Aug 2020

We are actually very impressed by the schedule and curriculum our elementary school kids will having during their first couple months of "virtual learning". The amount of time with their teacher and actual lack of parental involvement is reassuring (of course we'll be there monitoring).

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
21. I feel parental involvement is an asset and could enhance virtual learning. I taught for years
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 10:41 AM
Aug 2020

before going into business and I found that students where parents were involved in learning had better outcomes.

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
26. It was terrible. We were asked to drive kids as young as 14 out of school so as to improve
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 11:10 AM
Aug 2020

test scores and there was cheating on standardized tests. I refused to do any of it so I was not well liked by the administration.

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
29. Yes definitely, but it is much less than we had in the Spring when
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 12:10 PM
Aug 2020

COVID started where they would just post on their website a list of things and the parents did those things with the student. Now they will get most of their instruction from the teacher, followed by individual work time where the parent helps to guide the student through the lesson work problems.

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
32. The kids being sent back to school with inadequate testing and contract tracing are
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 06:33 PM
Aug 2020

in great danger as are their families.

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
34. Yep, exactly why we are keeping ours home. Much of the opening is all for funding...
Tue Aug 11, 2020, 09:51 AM
Aug 2020

our school disctricts here in Missouri need to open in person in order to get a bunch of their annual funding, so the rumors are that they are just going to open and then shut down as soon as a COVID case occurs so they will get their funding but still be able to do virtual after that.

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