I had an important realization this weekend:

[PCIntern]

I had gotten off the phone with a patient who was blatantly lying to me. And I began reflecting that more and more people are telling me outrageous lies about things which occurred and they have no conscience, do not seem to care that their lies are transparent, are not concerned about any of the ramifications, and then expect me to operate as though these lies were the truth.

In addition, a coworker was making a grotesque error of action and judgment, was called to the carpet by the boss, stated that I had been informed of this and that I was OK with it, the boss knew that I had not been informed and did not have the temerity to call this person out on the lie. I spoke with the boss and she knows that this person lies and I told her that in my day, lying about such an egregious incident would lead to immediate firing on the spot. She agreed that should be the case, but it seems that lying has become normative.

I approached the coworker and said if you ever Lie. about anything that has to do with me again I will go to management and tell them everything that you were up to during the day involving your Internet surfing, your family communications, your communications with your husband, your communications with your boyfriend, and your leaving early when you think no one’s looking.

I’ve come to the conclusion that people just don’t care anymore because they see the person at the very tippy top getting away with it so why shouldn’t they? Personally, I don’t really care on this level unless it threatens my job, my well-being, or makes me liable for professional sanctions.

[hlthe2b]

1. I agree. People who had always seemed to be forthright now seem to think less of the smalll lies;

People who previously diminished the importance of "white lies," now feel free to tell "whoppers."

Like racism, verbal and physical violence, overt hate-fueled acts, TRUTH has taken an intensive "hit" as a result of this monstrous man in the WH and his ilk.

Lots of lingering societal damage, that I may well not live long enough to see reversed.

[yardwork]

2. When the president lies constantly, it creates a permission state.

Trump's behavior gives others permission to behave the same way. Even those who don't like him are affected by his behavior, because he's the leader. That's how humans are wired.

Trump creates distress for all of us. He's a detriment to our society. Trump is toxic.

[pwb]

3. I have broken off friendships over lying.

Family too.

[yaesu]

4. This is why I believe the rule of law will break down, is breaking down in this country

The dictator and his AG fixer are breaking laws with impunity every day and this will effect our whole justice system, cause our society to become unglued.

[Laelth]

5. As many as 1 in every 8 humans suffers from a Cluster B personality disorder.

Trump is just one of many. They may feel emboldened by Trump, but these people have always been with us, and they all lie.

-Laelth

Edit: Watch your back. You just made an enemy of a highly vindictive and sadistic person who has no conscience.

[Susan Calvin]

25. Thank you for the information.

I looked up the a b and c groups and it was very interesting. I don't think I fall into any of them, so that was a relief.

[erronis]

6. True this. We can try to make those around us honest and be so ourselves.

We can perhaps get this country heading back to a good place also on Nov. 3.

[Tbear]

7. At first

I really admired, and still do, your promise to your coworker if she ever lies about you again.

Then it hit me that I would probably do something similar and that may not be too good...

I hate liars.

[Illumination]

8. Understood PCIntern! You are doing what is right & moral. You need to be applauded for that!

[AZ8theist]

9. I don't care how many times the traitorous pig lies

I will ALWAYS maintain professionalism and integrity at work. That's how I'M WIRED.

[lark]

10. Criminals enable others to also be criminal and that's happened here.

I always include criminals with the groups supporting drumpf, they know they are the same.

[Trueblue Texan]

11. This is exactly how Republicans gained power...

They blatantly lie and they know honest people won't dispute the lies unless they know for a fact they are lying. Democrats are more honest and have more respect for the truth--they typically won't use a lie to cover up something they do not know for a fact. The rethugs know this about us and have used this strength as our weakness for 30 years or more.

[SayItLoud]

12. Thanks for the post, BUT

Why condition reporting this obvious POS until they "lie about you" ? Everyday they are infecting you, your co workers and company and are being protected by silence. Nip it in the bud like the rePUKES should have done right after tRUMP began his lies and corrupt behavior. Just my 2 cents.

[CaptYossarian]

13. Document. Document. Document.

I've been victimized several times by coworkers' lies. I learned to write down what was said, who said it, and who was nearby.

After becoming an amateur sleuth in time for them to try to disrupt my employment, it was the liars who ended up hitting the pavement.

I get your point about that person at the top. His sliminess has given the worst in our society license to overtly show their being deplorables. Congratulations on defending yourself.

[RainCaster]

14. You need to start interviewing now

A replacement needs to be found quickly. Your practice is infected.

[PCIntern]

23. Not my practice anymore.

Point taken however. I’m just an employee.

[patphil]

15. Trump is really good at one thing...leading by example.

Now we have 40 million moronic, pathological liars who act out their fear anger and hatred as if it's the way life is supposed to be.

[llmart]

16. The GOP is all about the "trickle down" concept.

Usually they speak of it in terms of the economy, but I can see it with regards to societal behavior. This hatred/negativity/self-centeredness/dysfunctional relationships didn't start with Trump, but it is now magnified and in the news every single day. I expect it's not going away any time soon (or at least in my lifetime), but those of us who are empathetic/caring/kind people need to choose our leaders wisely so that just maybe we'll be more influential than they are. Then our culture can change. I see the protests and BLM movement as a good sign that the younger generation may be our saving grace.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

20. Good insight. However, with high unemployment, honesty will start to ooze up. Cream will rise. . nt

[llmart]

26. Lord, I hope so.

Do people really like living in a culture like this? I sure don't. I believe emotional health and well being is directly connected to physical health and well being. No wonder as a country so many are unhealthy both physically and emotionally.

[panfluteman]

17. Yup. I Had a Former Landlord Who Went Rogue On Me...

I thought I could trust him. He called me back from Mexico for what I thought would be the perfect rental situation for me, and it turned out to be nothing but a scam. Now here I am stuck in what has become a de facto sh*thole country, unable to go back because COVID has made Americans global pariahs. After due reflection on things, I also came to the conclusion that he was taking his cues from the orange goon at the top. As for myself, I will continue to be honest no matter who is being dishonest, or how dishonest they are being.

[CTyankee]

18. whoa, "husband/boyfriend"! Right there, that you know about it, is a BIG BAD thing to have

bandied about in the office. All the other bad stuff goes to HR in a bundle but marital issues are best kept out of it (unless one party or both are in your place of employment).

I am really sorry this has happened to you, when all you wanted to do is help your patients.

Is there some way you can find another employer? Sometimes bad situations stink so much the smell forced you to do what you might have never considered...

[Bernardo de La Paz]

19. With high UNEMPLOYMENT, you'd think people would be careful not to lie, or bosses would fire for it

... since it is now easier to REPLACE LIARS.

[smirkymonkey]

21. Wait, she has a husband and a boyfriend?

And she makes no attempt to conceal this from anyone in the office?

[PCIntern]

24. I have excellent hearing for a man my age

[StarryNite]

22. The Trump Effect

Good for you for standing your ground. tRump's cult followers have been emboldened and now feel free to act out in ways they've always wanted to but in the past they knew it would be unacceptable.

[Hortensis]

27. An expert on fascism wrote a book on lies in fascism,

not just as a tool but as they pervade thinking and become the basis of its entire belief system. It's a companion to his book From Fascism to Populism in History. Lies are absolutely crucial to fascistic behaviors and to fascistic mindset.

Much of our right is well trained in intense loyalty to the lie. These hostiles are warriors who know their lies are more truthful than anything you could say.

https://www.amazon.com/Brief-History-Fascist-Lies/dp/0520346718