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still_one

(92,219 posts)
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 12:42 PM Aug 2020

So CNN, with John King, is pushing that the theme that African Americans are "demanding" that

Biden choose an African American woman "or else"

They don't specify what "or else" means

This drama pushed by the media laughable

I will bet money that Joe Biden will select an African American woman, and that it won't be Nina Turner

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So CNN, with John King, is pushing that the theme that African Americans are "demanding" that (Original Post) still_one Aug 2020 OP
Nina Turner? Hahahaha Fuck that. SlogginThroughIt Aug 2020 #1
I will vote for Tina in a NY minute +++ still_one Aug 2020 #4
King is correct "Or else" means discord within the party. Sneederbunk Aug 2020 #2
It is a non-issue, Biden will be selecting an African American woman. This is typical media drama still_one Aug 2020 #5
He is actually reporting what Bev54 Aug 2020 #24
Did he say "Angela Rye demands" or African Americans demand"? Iggo Aug 2020 #32
He played Angela Rye's Bev54 Aug 2020 #35
MSNBC had someone saying the same thing. Renew Deal Aug 2020 #3
No it isn't, because he will be selecting an African American Woman. It is all hypothetical still_one Aug 2020 #7
How many viewers do Leah Dougherty and a fellow DUer have? Renew Deal Aug 2020 #9
I have no idea. This is a non-issue, because there is no doubt in my mind that he will be still_one Aug 2020 #15
Leah Daughtrey is a major player in the Democratic Party StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #38
Yea, we aren't. The news media does us no favors. Afromania Aug 2020 #6
The news media has never done us any favor. Left to jrthin Aug 2020 #11
They helped him the first time with coverage that never called him out. Afromania Aug 2020 #18
Exactly. jrthin Aug 2020 #40
VP pamdb Aug 2020 #8
Why NOT anyone associated with President Obama? still_one Aug 2020 #17
From the start I wanted this not to be about pitting one group of women against another. I have seen LizBeth Aug 2020 #10
I don't like it either peggysue2 Aug 2020 #21
+1 LizBeth Aug 2020 #23
DUers are demanding the he pick a Democrat ... or else! VWolf Aug 2020 #12
King is a closet repug. He's sh_t stirring. brush Aug 2020 #13
He is doing what he is told just to stir things up and attract viewers still_one Aug 2020 #14
Um, yeah. HotTeaBag Aug 2020 #16
the full quote from Maxine Water NewJeffCT Aug 2020 #22
Your point? HotTeaBag Aug 2020 #28
RW, far left, and Russian agents are pushing this nonsense to Hortensis Aug 2020 #19
I'll take Jim Clyburn at his word on this NewJeffCT Aug 2020 #20
The media have way too much time on their hands. Progressive dog Aug 2020 #25
Isn't that the truth, and I am also fine with any of Biden's choices still_one Aug 2020 #26
Tammy Duckworth is a WOC btw obamanut2012 Aug 2020 #27
Jim Clyburn (as in South Carolina primary blowout) said recently that Sogo Aug 2020 #29
Well some are: seaglass Aug 2020 #30
Then I guess they are prepared to enjoy four more years of Trump. LisaL Aug 2020 #31
As Carville warned. 'What will Democrats do' [to lose November empedocles Aug 2020 #36
That is the letter he showed. still_one Aug 2020 #33
Russians are pushing propaganda dividing AA against whites at every turn. BComplex Aug 2020 #34
We "demand" just like we're "angry" and "hostile" StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #37
It is unfortunate that wording was used. In my view Biden will be selecting an still_one Aug 2020 #39

Bev54

(10,053 posts)
35. He played Angela Rye's
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 03:03 PM
Aug 2020

interview earlier in the am and she said AA women demand it, as they are the ones that revived Biden's campaign.

Renew Deal

(81,861 posts)
3. MSNBC had someone saying the same thing.
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 12:46 PM
Aug 2020

And someone here posted a statement from a named person about them being too tired to carry two white people over the finish line. It’s a real thing.

still_one

(92,219 posts)
7. No it isn't, because he will be selecting an African American Woman. It is all hypothetical
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 12:49 PM
Aug 2020

stirring things up to garner viewers

Renew Deal

(81,861 posts)
9. How many viewers do Leah Dougherty and a fellow DUer have?
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 12:55 PM
Aug 2020
https://democraticunderground.com/100213880256

I’ll try to find the MSNBC segment. It’s from this morning. I’ll try to find the segment. One of the guests was talking about how she interviewed a volunteer with the view that the volunteer would be disappointed and it could impact enthusiasm.

still_one

(92,219 posts)
15. I have no idea. This is a non-issue, because there is no doubt in my mind that he will be
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 01:09 PM
Aug 2020

selecting an African American Woman.

It will be someone that he will be able to work with well, and I have no doubt that there will be some who won't be happy because the selection doesn't fit a particular criteria in their scheme of things


 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
38. Leah Daughtrey is a major player in the Democratic Party
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 03:07 PM
Aug 2020

She probably has considerably more influence in the real world than most people on Twitter and teevee

jrthin

(4,836 posts)
11. The news media has never done us any favor. Left to
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 12:56 PM
Aug 2020

what they do best (incite, bothsideisms, no follow-up questions, etc) they would help to elect this freak that is now in the office.

Afromania

(2,769 posts)
18. They helped him the first time with coverage that never called him out.
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 01:20 PM
Aug 2020

Hell, they still aren't really calling his sick ass out and probably won't until after he's kicked out.

pamdb

(1,332 posts)
8. VP
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 12:52 PM
Aug 2020

I can't stand Nina Turner.

Don't take Gretchen!!! We need her here.

On Morning Joe, Michael Steele was saying that the imperative that a black woman is chosen is not as strong as it once was, apparently Elizabeth Warren has a good reputationamong black voters. Then this young black woman came on and basically said if a black woman is not chosen, a lot of younger black people, especiallywomen, night just stay home. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.

I've always said, Kamala Harris.

Do not pick Susan Rice, it will be Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi. Don't pick
anyone associated with the Clintons, or really, Obama (except Biden of course).



LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
10. From the start I wanted this not to be about pitting one group of women against another. I have seen
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 12:56 PM
Aug 2020

Last edited Mon Aug 10, 2020, 01:28 PM - Edit history (1)

way too much of that over the years and it is purposely done to hurt all women. We are better than that and too many are falling into this little game that is played at women's expense. It is too bad, I do not like it.

peggysue2

(10,832 posts)
21. I don't like it either
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 01:23 PM
Aug 2020

Because it distracts from the main goal, the only goal at this point:

Winning on November 3rd.

Losing votes or splitting voting blocs, getting voters riled up among different factions is counterproductive to what we all want and need--a clear, undisputed win to obliterate Trump and Trumpism. And yes, this particular game is being played at women's expense, a voting bloc that has been turning away from Republicans and all things Trump in huge numbers. What we really need to do is brace ourselves for the sexist attacks coming down the road, regardless of the ultimate choice and be ready to defend whoever the official VP choice turns out to be.

Color me optimistic but I believe once the announcement is made, we will, in fact, be on the same page. Because we must.



NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
22. the full quote from Maxine Water
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 01:26 PM
Aug 2020

“Let me guarantee you this, based on everything that I know and understand, and the help that [Biden] has already gotten from the Black community, with what [Rep.] Jim Clyburn has done. Jim Clyburn and when he hears this he’s going to laugh, he can’t go home without a Black woman being VP,” Waters said confidently. “We’re going to have a Black woman VP.”

 

HotTeaBag

(1,206 posts)
28. Your point?
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 01:59 PM
Aug 2020

There are a multitude of 'opinion' pieces, articles and calls for Joe to have a black VP - those five were just a couple I found in an extremely cursory search.

John King and CNN are not wrong.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
19. RW, far left, and Russian agents are pushing this nonsense to
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 01:20 PM
Aug 2020

try to splinter away some people prone to resentment anyway. It'll work for a handful who haven't already settled on an excuse.

AA overall have been among Biden's strongest supporters all along. They certainly know the difference between bad troublemakers and making good trouble.

And there's an enormous difference between naturally hoping Biden's choice will be black and working oneself into the notion that any other choice would wrong black people.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
20. I'll take Jim Clyburn at his word on this
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 01:21 PM
Aug 2020

to paraphrase: that while it would be nice if Biden chose an African American woman for running mate, it is NOT a must have.

Progressive dog

(6,905 posts)
25. The media have way too much time on their hands.
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 01:32 PM
Aug 2020

Nina Turner and her preferred candidates for VP have already gone the way of her preferred candidates for POTUS.
All the possible picks on Biden's list are fine with me.

Sogo

(4,986 posts)
29. Jim Clyburn (as in South Carolina primary blowout) said recently that
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 02:07 PM
Aug 2020

having a black woman on the SCOTUS is a higher priority than VP.

https://thegrio.com/2020/08/02/james-clyburn-speaks-on-veepstakes/

I think Clyburn's opinion is much more important than John King's....

BComplex

(8,053 posts)
34. Russians are pushing propaganda dividing AA against whites at every turn.
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 02:58 PM
Aug 2020

They are whipping up people who are trend setters to get them riled up. It's standard russian campaign interference.

Russia and the republicans WILL DO ANYTHING - WILL GO TO ANY LENGTHS - to sabotage unity.

Don't buy into it!!!!

still_one

(92,219 posts)
39. It is unfortunate that wording was used. In my view Biden will be selecting an
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 03:24 PM
Aug 2020

African American Woman VP regardless

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