When Trump's stormtroopers impound ballots in Dem areas in battleground states, then what?

[tableturner]

There is nothing he won't do to stay in office. Trump knows that either he wins, or he will go to prison.

I can see fairly early on election night, the counting is close, and many ballots have yet to have been counted in strong Democratic counties in all battleground states. Trump and Barr send in the goon squads we've seen operating over the last month or two, and they literally go to those counties' supervisor of elections offices and seize all uncounted ballots, "impound" them, and then destroy them.

Trump had also previously ordered his personal stooge in the USPS to slow down the delivery of ballots in those same strong Democratic counties in the battleground states, and then sends in his goon squads to the various USPS depots, and they impound and destroy the massive number of ballots that have purposely not been delivered to the supervisor of elections offices in those same counties by the end of election day.

Meanwhile, Trump and Barr announce that they have defeated a plot by China to commit election fraud in those same Democratic stronghold counties. They then release a report from their intelligence stooges that is full of fake information designed to back up those claims. That report states that China had sent hundreds of thousands of counterfeit ballots to the particular denoted counties, which have now been seized and impounded. Trump and Barr don't let us know that the ballots have been destroyed.

The vote count finishes with Trump winning reelection due to his and Barr's fascist actions. The GOP holds the Senate with a bigger majority, and they greatly reduce the Democratic majority in the House.

The Democrats file suit, which is answered by the DOJ, stating that due to national security reasons, the impounded ballots have been destroyed. The Democrats go wild, as does the media, and even the courts. Trump and the GOP say "fuck you" to the rest of us, and go about their fascist business.

Great demonstrations take place all over the country, and they are brutally extinguished by Trump's stormtroopers. In his new term, Trump ignores court rulings, and continues his fascist acts with increasing ferocity, thanks in part to the help of his stormtroopers. As a result, he solidifies even more power. A Trump acolyte then wins in 2024 (of course), continues the power solidification, and democracy in the US dies.

If you think what I outlined above or a similar scenario cannot happen, think again. Like I wrote above, Trump knows that either he wins, or he will go to prison. I do not know how to prevent something like that from happening, nor do I know how to correct the power grab as it happens, or after. I would appreciate your thoughts.

[Hoyt]

1. Just vote, don't believe that will happen. If it does, our election observers

will know.

[tableturner]

4. Yes, they'll know, but so what? While they would be "knowing", ballots would be destroyed.

I'm talking about a full on fascist grab. In this scenario, observers would be relatively useless.

[Hoyt]

6. It's not going to happen.

[tableturner]

7. Many horrible events that were not going to happen actually happened.

Putting your head in the sand? Why assume that Trump won't act like Trump?

[stillcool]

2. Fear is a wasted emotion...

and it really puts a damper on a good life.

[tableturner]

11. It's NOT a waste. Plausible fears prepare us for negative events.

[Hekate]

3. Why don't you write to the Joe Biden campaign & ask them what their plans are?

That would be more productive than writing scary stories on DU, and you can report back to us.

[tableturner]

5. This could happen.

[BannonsLiver]

20. You'll never hear solutions from defeatists

The script is always us as helpless victims.

[tableturner]

23. Not being defeatist. I AM trying to get Dems prepared. I admit I don't know what to do.

I think lying to ourselves that Trump won't commit such heinous acts, not being prepared for it, then sitting and watching it happen, leading to despair, and just having to live with it because it was a fait accompli, is actually being defeatist. Just. Like. Each. Time. Before. #heads out of sand

[BannonsLiver]

24. There's a difference between being aware and flogging a narrative endlessly.

There are also rational, and irrational arguments.

#defeatistsalwayslose

[Eko]

8. I think something like this is going to happen.

Its not being afraid, its being realistic. Whatever you think he wont do because of historical norms trump will do. Its what he has been doing the whole time. Things are going to get a whole lot worse than you think they will because you think no one would be that brazen, that people wont support him doing it or just sit by and let it happen. He will and they will. Every month for the last 3.5 years he has done what he supposedly cant do and then exceeded the previous month. Rethink your paradigms.

[tableturner]

10. Correct, this is very possible. I think some people are lying to themselves.

[SoonerPride]

9. If that happens I leave the country and never come back

Because if that scenario takes place then AMERICA is literally over.

[Eko]

12. You may not be able to if that happens.

[I_UndergroundPanther]

13. Since I am too poor to leave

And no other country would want me, when they take my ability to survive away I will kill myself. I have diabeties,not eating will make me sick and when my sugar levels get low enough I go into a coma and die . I can't live when I'm left with nothing can't afford food medicine or a roof over my head.

I know I would be caught by fascist goons.

Rather go into that hellish situation, I will stop eating.
In a few days I will have left and I am never coming back.

It's great that you can escape to another country but realize a lot of people have but one way to escape.

[rso]

14. Ballots

People, we can’t leave or commit suicide in the unlikely event that suppression reaches that level, we need to get out on the streets and fight. Our democracy is more than worth it. And I say this as someone who has a nice family, excellent health and all the material comforts. In other words, someone who has much to lose, but still willing to take a risk and fight.

[DSandra]

15. We should all be preparing for a Trump dictatorship if we can

If not, all Dems should be banding together to increase the chances of withstanding the dark times that will be coming...

[Binkie The Clown]

16. Might be why he's building that big wall around the White House.

Next thing he'll be installing a moat, a drawbridge, and machine gun nests on the roof.

[tableturner]

17. I'll say it again: I believe a lot of people are lying to themselves. It will be a rude awakening.

[Thekaspervote]

18. Please stop...he and his ilk want you to think you are alone, without power or options

And your post is all of that. We are not alone, without power or options

Try reading or listening to those that have some deep understanding of the situation. It may not be all bright but it isn’t all doom and gloom either. Especially from our nominee, our dem leaders, past and current and others.

He knows he’s going to lose, but as much as I hate to say it, he knows he isn’t going to prison. If nothing else his defense will be that he is physically and or mentally unfit to stand trial. That has been on full display from months.

It’s going to be a rocky road ahead, I believe we all know that. Imagining the worst at every corner isn’t helpful

“Remember Red, Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things.” Shawshank Redeption

[BannonsLiver]

19. I guess we give up?

Let him have the WH for life? Is that the answer you're looking for?

[tableturner]

22. This is NOT giving up. It's called being ready.

Look, if I would have told you two years ago that Trump would do the things he has done the last two years, especially the last year, you would have probably thought that they were kooky thoughts. You would not think that today. He will go as low and as vile as he can because he knows that if he loses, he goes to prison.

It is NOT kooky or far out to think that he would send his police force/stormtroopers to seize ballots, if he knows he is losing, and all other avenues to stealing a victory don't work. Do any of you think that he would decline to do that under those circumstances?

For the last three and a half years, we have all sometimes said "He wouldn't do that, would he?" Well....we have seen that he WOULD, and we have seen that our side has been unprepared for those once unspeakable acts.

We MUST be prepared for almost ANYTHING this vile president might do!

[Quixote1818]

25. I don't think the FBI and CIA care for him, so if anyone tries this crap they are risking a very

long time in prison.

[NNadir]

26. Here's my opinion: We really don't need this defeatist paranoid shit here.

[tableturner]

27. Had I two years ago warned of what we've seen since, you would have charged paranoia.

It's not being defeatist, it's not being paranoid.....I just want us to get prepared. However, we could ignore this and other potential authoritarian actions, just like so many times before, then watch them happen and wish we had been prepared. Again...just like so many times before. Ignoring the possibility is the real defeatist attitude.

Quit lying to yourself.....he'll do ANYTHING to win!! My gosh.....he's already in the middle of an actual effort to use the USPS to disenfranchise voters. Who would have predicted that? And who would have declared that person paranoid? Probably a lot of us would. If we are not prepared for all eventualities, leading to a Trump victory, democracy will die in this country. Learn from our past mistakes.

[NNadir]

29. Most people believed that even Trump could show a shred of sense. I believe that the American...

...People are making very clear how they feel about this complete fuck up.

I'm not lying to myself, but I've lived a long time, Vietnam, Nixon, Kent State, the War in Iraq. Rather than hide under my covers whining about what am I going to do, I place my faith in American history, and our culture, of which I am well aware.

The country survived Jefferson Davis and Robert E. Lee, both of whom were far more competent than an old piece of shit mumbling to himself like a schizophrenic dumped on the subways of New York, and riding around in his golf cart with his Depends buried under his rolls of fat.

Rather than accusing me of lying to myself, why don't you just show some courage? If your big bad bogeymen show up, we'll know what to do, but they haven't and the aren't.

[struggle4progress]

28. Just don't tell em what train we're on and they won't know what route we gone