Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
9 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
*Neal Katyal on Lawrence show now. (Original Post) elleng Aug 2020 OP
He said the executive orders fit in two different buckets Mersky Aug 2020 #1
Thanks for the paraphrase; elleng Aug 2020 #2
He made really clear points Mersky Aug 2020 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author morillon Aug 2020 #4
"Semantic infiltration" elleng Aug 2020 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author morillon Aug 2020 #6
LUCKY it came up with google search: elleng Aug 2020 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author morillon Aug 2020 #8
You're welcome; Lawrence added that sauce, of course. elleng Aug 2020 #9

Mersky

(4,981 posts)
1. He said the executive orders fit in two different buckets
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 10:43 PM
Aug 2020

One being a “wouldn’t it be nice” category that includes such feckless ideas like having the exec branch research how to do anything about evictions, and the deferral of payroll taxes as some kind of fix rather than what it is - a questionable punt on the whole matter.

And the other is the especially unlawful kind like the pResident over-extending his powers to allocate $400 to citizens without an act of Congress.

Basically, the only thing he did with any force was forgive student loan debt interest through a law pursued by Clinton in 1993 and voted into law by Congress with Biden voting for it and Gore casting the deciding vote. Ha!

This is a very rough paraphrasing without the benefit of rewinding, so catch the segment as it was a rather plain laying-out of tRump’s bs from over the weekend.

Mersky

(4,981 posts)
3. He made really clear points
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 10:50 PM
Aug 2020

And was compelled to write it up right afterwards. Was glad you called it out on DU, because I’ve wanted a concise/conversational rundown of that bs that I can share with some folks. Is a good segment worth watching.

Response to elleng (Original post)

elleng

(130,912 posts)
5. "Semantic infiltration"
Mon Aug 10, 2020, 11:49 PM
Aug 2020

of right-wing propaganda via euphemisms to characterize regressive public policies in the mainstream mass media:

From Michael Hiltzik’s column, “A New Year's pledge: Don’t let politicians and pundits say Social Security and Medicare ‘reforms’ when they mean ‘cuts,’” in the Los Angeles Times (January 2, 2018):
“Just after Christmas, for example, Politico achieved a multi-fecta in an article about disagreements between House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) over Medicaid and Medicare. Reading from the top down, the article referred to ‘overhauling’ the programs, to ‘reform,’ ‘welfare and entitlement changes’ and ‘policy modifications.’ These are Republican terms for benefit cuts. There’s no excuse for journalists repeating them without defining them. But one has to drill pretty deeply into the Politico piece to find the first mention of benefit ‘cuts’ (to paragraph 12, actually). Other weasel words often found creeping into what purport to be objective reports about social programs are ‘reshape,’ ‘revamp,’ ‘modernize’ and especially ‘fix.’ As we’ve observed in the past, Republican plans for Medicaid, Medicare, food stamps and other such programs are ‘fixes’ in the same sense that one ‘fixes’ a cat or the Mafia ‘fixes’ an informer.
I’ve mentioned (in another context) the warning delivered in a 1965 speech by the late Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan (D-N.Y.) about what he called ‘semantic infiltration’ in policy debates: ‘If the other fellow can get you to use his words, he wins.’”
The rest of the article is here.
POSTED BY PATRICK S. O'DONNELL AT 6:07 PM

http://ratiojuris.blogspot.com/2018/01/semantic-infiltration-of-right-wing.html

Glad it's available, related to Senator Moynihan in the discussion.


Response to elleng (Reply #5)

Response to elleng (Reply #7)

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»*Neal Katyal on Lawrence ...