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****JUST RELEASED A + RATED MONMOUTH NATIONAL POLL*** Biden 51% Trump 41% * (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2020 OP
Polls and final vote tally needs to stay greater than Biden +4 in swing states NCDem47 Aug 2020 #1
I worry that the VP pick will effect the pick. progressive nobody Aug 2020 #2
nope--that's already baked in as we've known for some time SiliconValley_Dem Aug 2020 #3
If we've come so far, then why did Hillary lose? AllTooEasy Aug 2020 #18
Hillary was demonized for many more years, radius777 Aug 2020 #26
+1. And it's long been assumed it would Kamala. /nt radius777 Aug 2020 #23
your concern is noted obamanut2012 Aug 2020 #5
+1000 Celerity Aug 2020 #12
+1 Spot on. Concern is so concerning. Tommymac Aug 2020 #15
Your Complacency is Noted AllTooEasy Aug 2020 #16
The one effect will be if its a really bad choice which may damper Dem enthusiasm about the ticket. Yavin4 Aug 2020 #7
Bull MFM008 Aug 2020 #13
The majority of voters are women. lagomorph777 Aug 2020 #17
The majority of voters were women in 2016 AllTooEasy Aug 2020 #19
Complacency?? lagomorph777 Aug 2020 #21
Hillary made the mistake of picking Kane instead of Booker. radius777 Aug 2020 #22
LOL.. you have it backwards! honest.abe Aug 2020 #28
C'mon, Joe! Music Man Aug 2020 #4
Joe is up 8-11 points Johnny2X2X Aug 2020 #6
K&R mvd Aug 2020 #8
Breaking the 50% barrier is significant, too... Wounded Bear Aug 2020 #9
Recall that Hillary had %51 of the vote. Let's get Joe to %55!!! AllTooEasy Aug 2020 #20
Contrary to my worries last week.... Happy Hoosier Aug 2020 #10
As was the case during the primaries, Biden's overall numbers have been remarkably stable peggysue2 Aug 2020 #11
+1. and back-to-school season is going to be a mess radius777 Aug 2020 #29
More upset that Trump has support outside of immediate family? Brainfodder Aug 2020 #14
Very good numbers and likely to go up with VP Harris announcement. honest.abe Aug 2020 #24
Agree Johnny2X2X Aug 2020 #25
There are more Democrats than Republicans now...in fact, there were those who Demsrule86 Aug 2020 #27

NCDem47

(2,248 posts)
1. Polls and final vote tally needs to stay greater than Biden +4 in swing states
Tue Aug 11, 2020, 12:25 PM
Aug 2020

This is where it counts for Electoral College.

Anything +3 or less for Biden will open the door to Republicans stealing the election.

 

progressive nobody

(816 posts)
2. I worry that the VP pick will effect the pick.
Tue Aug 11, 2020, 12:26 PM
Aug 2020

Unfortunately we are a sexist nation when it comes to women candidates

 

SiliconValley_Dem

(1,656 posts)
3. nope--that's already baked in as we've known for some time
Tue Aug 11, 2020, 12:28 PM
Aug 2020

he is picking a woman. we have come an amazingly far distance from Mondale-Ferraro

AllTooEasy

(1,260 posts)
18. If we've come so far, then why did Hillary lose?
Tue Aug 11, 2020, 03:09 PM
Aug 2020

She was the most qualified candidate in history, and she lost to the most unqualified candidate/man in history.

Yeah, America is still moronically sexist.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
26. Hillary was demonized for many more years,
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 09:19 AM
Aug 2020

also Clinton fatigue, also they're different people (all women aren't the same, you know that right) with different political talents. Kamala is more charismatic (and younger, remember ageism is a thing, especially against women) than Hillary.

Four years ago also seems like a lifetime ago, with the Floyd stuff, Covid, etc - remember the Blue Wave of '18 was also driven by women that also elected record numbers of women.

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
15. +1 Spot on. Concern is so concerning.
Tue Aug 11, 2020, 02:40 PM
Aug 2020

I'm concerned that concerns about concerning things up the level of concern to concerning levels, and wonder if too much concern brings about concerning things.

AllTooEasy

(1,260 posts)
16. Your Complacency is Noted
Tue Aug 11, 2020, 03:04 PM
Aug 2020

Let me guess, You were part of the “She’s Got This” crowd during the run up to Trumpanzee’s victory.

No lead is big enough. No concern should be overlooked. No Repuke dirty trick should be unexpected. No effort is too difficult. Let’s whip Trump’s ass.

and when we’re done...whip him some more.

Yavin4

(35,440 posts)
7. The one effect will be if its a really bad choice which may damper Dem enthusiasm about the ticket.
Tue Aug 11, 2020, 01:33 PM
Aug 2020

If Biden picked Amy Klobuchar for example.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
17. The majority of voters are women.
Tue Aug 11, 2020, 03:08 PM
Aug 2020

The majority of women are polling for Biden, and they have known for months that the VP will be a woman.

AllTooEasy

(1,260 posts)
19. The majority of voters were women in 2016
Tue Aug 11, 2020, 03:19 PM
Aug 2020

The majority of women polled for Hillary, and they knew that was our PRESIDENTIAL candidate would be a woman.

Your complacency is noted. We can’t take anything for granted(again) this election. No lead is big enough. No effort is too great. No concern should be ignored. No dirty Repuke trick should be unanticipated. Let’s whip Trumpanzee’s ass.

...and when we think that we are done, Whip him some more!

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
21. Complacency??
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 08:58 AM
Aug 2020

Sheesh. Being pleased with Biden's VP pick means I'm complacent now?

We don't have to shred each other this way. Dems are supposed to be the grownups, aren't we?

radius777

(3,635 posts)
22. Hillary made the mistake of picking Kane instead of Booker.
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 09:07 AM
Aug 2020

She went safe instead of bold and it bit us in the ass (lower black turnout in Rustbelt) while Kane didn't help (we would've won VA anyway).

Kamala is inspiring and will drive up base turnout as well as suburban women who are trending Dem.

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
6. Joe is up 8-11 points
Tue Aug 11, 2020, 01:29 PM
Aug 2020

The average moves some, but it's mostly noise. I don't think things will change much.

Biden supporters right now are about at 50%, they're like Trump voters in 2016, nothing Biden could do will change their support of him, he could shoot someone in the middle of the street. Biden's floor might be 50%.

Wounded Bear

(58,660 posts)
9. Breaking the 50% barrier is significant, too...
Tue Aug 11, 2020, 02:03 PM
Aug 2020

I always think polls that at 50%+ are better indicators.

AllTooEasy

(1,260 posts)
20. Recall that Hillary had %51 of the vote. Let's get Joe to %55!!!
Tue Aug 11, 2020, 03:24 PM
Aug 2020

We can do it, we just can’t be complacent.

Happy Hoosier

(7,308 posts)
10. Contrary to my worries last week....
Tue Aug 11, 2020, 02:06 PM
Aug 2020

Joe's lead seems to be durable. I sure hope so.

Trump MUST be defeated! Go Joe!

peggysue2

(10,829 posts)
11. As was the case during the primaries, Biden's overall numbers have been remarkably stable
Tue Aug 11, 2020, 02:08 PM
Aug 2020

I hopped over to 538 yesterday, playing with the national-poll slide gizmo that Silver offers. Biden's average is now at 50.0% (a good sign) but in March it was 49.7% with a few minor ups and downs. The big change is Trump's overall dip in polls, fueled by the disastrous pandemic response + the economic turmoil.

The economic factors will become worse, despite all Trump's crowing about the stock market. Read a news story just this morning that the Kentucky electorate is really getting restless and pissed off at McConnell because of the relief stall for individual citizens, small businesses, etc. They're seeing their economic futures collapsing, as will be the case for many around the country.

Trump can lie his ass off, pretend he's doing something through useless EO's, but he cannot lie about the raw hardships people are/will start experiencing on the ground.

And yes, that breakdown of Independent voters leaning in Biden's direction is a very good sign.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
29. +1. and back-to-school season is going to be a mess
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 09:25 AM
Aug 2020

that may very well cause the polls to widen (when historically they tend to tighten around that time).

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
14. More upset that Trump has support outside of immediate family?
Tue Aug 11, 2020, 02:20 PM
Aug 2020

Supporting a SUPER OBVIOUS MEGA CRIMINAL OBNOXIOUS DICKHEAD for leader of a country?

And that's a very fair assessment?

So, 41% of those polled, basically are loyal to the core Republicans, and anyone could be in their #1 spot, anyone 35+ years old and an American born citizen, ONLY requirements, ONLY!?!

Feels highly likely stroke or dementia patient is in the oval office, but like all things, temporary!

Temporary is a very important word, please remember it when you get down.




Demsrule86

(68,576 posts)
27. There are more Democrats than Republicans now...in fact, there were those who
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 09:20 AM
Aug 2020

were Republicans that have now not only left the Republican Party but have registered as Democrats and voted in the Democratic primary this year.

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