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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsParents born outside the US... it Trump going to "birther" Harris?
the double standard that was allowed to flurish in 2016!!! Trump has the same immigrant history as Obama... yet Trump painted Obama as the "other".
will he get away with it with Harris?
DonaldsRump
(7,715 posts)Trump is a dipshite. He is desperate and will try anything now.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,861 posts)gollygee
(22,336 posts)I don't know why he'd bother trying that again when it's a proven fail.
Demovictory9
(32,475 posts)LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,595 posts)Trump provides them with a smorgasbord.
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)gollygee
(22,336 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)It's not going to work. People are tired of this shit. She was born in this country and she can prove it. End of story.
SiliconValley_Dem
(1,656 posts)Trump actually sounds disconcerted and worried. I love that he is such an egotistical lizard brain he can't even tap into Biden's logic in choosing a former opponent who "dissed" him on debate stage.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Lizzard brain - love it! And dissed by a female, yet. Likely very confusing to him.
SeattleVet
(5,479 posts)The 'very fine people' over at freeperville are already deep into all of the conspiracies, with a heavy concentration on the birther crap.
KentuckyWoman
(6,694 posts)Oh not with his own faithful, but it will cost him few percentage of votes.
Totally Tunsie
(10,885 posts)Kamala Harris is a natural-born U.S. citizen, having been born in Oakland, CA. There is no question of her eligibility.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/08/11/fact-check-kamala-harris-citizen-eligible-serve-president/3344836001/
elleng
(131,129 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)I know it's true, and not really funny.
Stallion
(6,476 posts)from Wikipedia:
Kamala Devi Harris was born on October 20, 1964, in Oakland, California.[1] Her mother, Shyamala Gopalan, was a breast-cancer scientist who had emigrated from India in 1960 to pursue a doctorate in endocrinology at UC Berkeley.[8] Her father, Donald Harris, is a Stanford University emeritus professor of economics, who emigrated from British Jamaica in 1961 for graduate study in economics at UC Berkeley.[9][10]
SiliconValley_Dem
(1,656 posts)Retrograde
(10,158 posts)I would only be mildly surprised if Barr tried to pull some sort of challenge, such as her parents were only here on student visas or some such nonsense. But since birthright citizenship is an established law upheld by the Supreme Court I doubt that even a right-leaning Court will buy that.
BGBD
(3,282 posts)Their argument now is that because her parents were not US citizens, then she is just an American Citizen by birth and not a "Natural Born Citizen.
Of course that's garbage. The Supreme Court found that anyone who was born in the US is a citizen regardless of parental status over 200 years ago. The only exceptions here are people who are not in "dominion" of the US, which only applies to foreign diplomats and invading armies.
I certainly hope this catches on with Team Trump though. I'd love for them to be seen trying to push birtherism on the first black woman to be nominated as Vice President by a major party. It would be laughed at and help to unite anyone who isn't a kool-aid drinking cultist against him.
Mariana
(14,861 posts)They conjure up their own ideas about what that phrase means, based on their fevered imaginations and what they wish was true. Then they convince themselves to believe the crazy bullshit they just made up, and they expect everyone else to believe it, too.
RockRaven
(15,003 posts)I suppose to rightwingers, Oakand CA is just as unreliable of a source of birth certificates as Hawaii was.
Will MAGATs really buy in fully on that a second time? Seems like they'd want a new conspiracy theory. Just for variety, you know.
PatSeg
(47,603 posts)Trump's mother was born outside of the U.S. and may not have even been a legal immigrant. His grandparents were from Germany and two of three wives were immigrants. I guess they didn't come from shit-hole countries.
dawg day
(7,947 posts)The mothers of FOUR of his children were born in the Soviet Bloc.
I don't think that will go very far. He's blown his wad way too early and often.
Watchfoxheadexplodes
(3,496 posts)SHE'S NOT AFRICAN AMERICAN
SMH
sanatanadharma
(3,730 posts)So, there is precedent for the 2024 President of the USA.
Celerity
(43,535 posts)Martin Van Buren was the first
bdjhawk
(420 posts)That makes her a radical socialist, doesnt it?!!!
Quelle horreur!!!
Ms. Toad
(34,093 posts)APS ASSESSMENT: False. Sen. Kamala Harris, a Democrat who represents California, is a natural-born U.S. citizen who is eligible to serve as president.
THE FACTS: Facebook users are spreading a false claim that Harris is not able to serve as president.
https://apnews.com/afs:Content: 9205550851
(Copy the full line above, paste into the URL, remove the space between the colon and the 9 - since those turn into a smiley face with a tongue sticking out)
OhioBlue
(5,126 posts)Trump's mom made annual trips home to Scotland. It made me think about how tRump projects all of his vulnerabilities, liabilities and failings onto others.... Was his entire attack on Obama about the location of his birth really a projection..... was tRump really born stateside? Really Ann Dunham had no reason or foresight into her son's future to fake the location of his birth. But.... it does sound like something the Trumps might do.