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Demovictory9

(32,475 posts)
Tue Aug 11, 2020, 08:31 PM Aug 2020

Parents born outside the US... it Trump going to "birther" Harris?

the double standard that was allowed to flurish in 2016!!! Trump has the same immigrant history as Obama... yet Trump painted Obama as the "other".

will he get away with it with Harris?

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Parents born outside the US... it Trump going to "birther" Harris? (Original Post) Demovictory9 Aug 2020 OP
Yes and no. DonaldsRump Aug 2020 #1
No. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2020 #2
Even after it didn't work with Obama? gollygee Aug 2020 #3
it worked to some extent. Much of his base believed Trump's lies Demovictory9 Aug 2020 #5
Racists will latch on to anything to justify their racism. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Aug 2020 #7
It didn't work with the middle and Trumps base didn't win him the election last time uponit7771 Aug 2020 #14
Obama won both times. nt gollygee Aug 2020 #18
And only his base is going to go for it. smirkymonkey Aug 2020 #25
let them try--Biden/Harris steam roller will crush it SiliconValley_Dem Aug 2020 #4
Right! SheltieLover Aug 2020 #12
Oh, he'll definitely go there. SeattleVet Aug 2020 #6
He'll try and it will hurt him. KentuckyWoman Aug 2020 #8
He'll be foolish to try. Totally Tunsie Aug 2020 #9
tramp doesn't know where Hawaii is. elleng Aug 2020 #10
🤣🤣🤣🤣 SheltieLover Aug 2020 #15
Since She was Born in the United States There is no Constitutional Issue Whatsoever Stallion Aug 2020 #11
but was she realllyyy...? that's how Birther/QAnon types roll SiliconValley_Dem Aug 2020 #16
So was Obama - didn't stop the birthers Retrograde Aug 2020 #19
The wingnuts have already started... BGBD Aug 2020 #24
They don't interpret "natural born citizen" that way. Mariana Aug 2020 #28
He can try. The racist underpinning is absolutely there. RockRaven Aug 2020 #13
What the hell?!?! PatSeg Aug 2020 #17
Trump's mother was born in Scotland. dawg day Aug 2020 #20
My Facebook news feeds full of Watchfoxheadexplodes Aug 2020 #21
Both of George Washington's parents were not born in the USA sanatanadharma Aug 2020 #22
the first 7 POTUS's were not born in the US Celerity Aug 2020 #23
And she went to high school in Canada!! bdjhawk Aug 2020 #26
Already trying . . . Ms. Toad Aug 2020 #27
I'm reading Mary Trump's book and one line that struck me was that OhioBlue Aug 2020 #29

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
3. Even after it didn't work with Obama?
Tue Aug 11, 2020, 08:32 PM
Aug 2020

I don't know why he'd bother trying that again when it's a proven fail.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
25. And only his base is going to go for it.
Tue Aug 11, 2020, 09:40 PM
Aug 2020

It's not going to work. People are tired of this shit. She was born in this country and she can prove it. End of story.

 

SiliconValley_Dem

(1,656 posts)
4. let them try--Biden/Harris steam roller will crush it
Tue Aug 11, 2020, 08:33 PM
Aug 2020

Trump actually sounds disconcerted and worried. I love that he is such an egotistical lizard brain he can't even tap into Biden's logic in choosing a former opponent who "dissed" him on debate stage.

SeattleVet

(5,479 posts)
6. Oh, he'll definitely go there.
Tue Aug 11, 2020, 08:37 PM
Aug 2020

The 'very fine people' over at freeperville are already deep into all of the conspiracies, with a heavy concentration on the birther crap.

Stallion

(6,476 posts)
11. Since She was Born in the United States There is no Constitutional Issue Whatsoever
Tue Aug 11, 2020, 08:38 PM
Aug 2020

from Wikipedia:

Kamala Devi Harris was born on October 20, 1964, in Oakland, California.[1] Her mother, Shyamala Gopalan, was a breast-cancer scientist who had emigrated from India in 1960 to pursue a doctorate in endocrinology at UC Berkeley.[8] Her father, Donald Harris, is a Stanford University emeritus professor of economics, who emigrated from British Jamaica in 1961 for graduate study in economics at UC Berkeley.[9][10]

Retrograde

(10,158 posts)
19. So was Obama - didn't stop the birthers
Tue Aug 11, 2020, 08:51 PM
Aug 2020

I would only be mildly surprised if Barr tried to pull some sort of challenge, such as her parents were only here on student visas or some such nonsense. But since birthright citizenship is an established law upheld by the Supreme Court I doubt that even a right-leaning Court will buy that.

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
24. The wingnuts have already started...
Tue Aug 11, 2020, 09:39 PM
Aug 2020

Their argument now is that because her parents were not US citizens, then she is just an American Citizen by birth and not a "Natural Born Citizen.

Of course that's garbage. The Supreme Court found that anyone who was born in the US is a citizen regardless of parental status over 200 years ago. The only exceptions here are people who are not in "dominion" of the US, which only applies to foreign diplomats and invading armies.

I certainly hope this catches on with Team Trump though. I'd love for them to be seen trying to push birtherism on the first black woman to be nominated as Vice President by a major party. It would be laughed at and help to unite anyone who isn't a kool-aid drinking cultist against him.

Mariana

(14,861 posts)
28. They don't interpret "natural born citizen" that way.
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 12:51 AM
Aug 2020

They conjure up their own ideas about what that phrase means, based on their fevered imaginations and what they wish was true. Then they convince themselves to believe the crazy bullshit they just made up, and they expect everyone else to believe it, too.

RockRaven

(15,003 posts)
13. He can try. The racist underpinning is absolutely there.
Tue Aug 11, 2020, 08:39 PM
Aug 2020

I suppose to rightwingers, Oakand CA is just as unreliable of a source of birth certificates as Hawaii was.

Will MAGATs really buy in fully on that a second time? Seems like they'd want a new conspiracy theory. Just for variety, you know.

PatSeg

(47,603 posts)
17. What the hell?!?!
Tue Aug 11, 2020, 08:41 PM
Aug 2020

Trump's mother was born outside of the U.S. and may not have even been a legal immigrant. His grandparents were from Germany and two of three wives were immigrants. I guess they didn't come from shit-hole countries.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
20. Trump's mother was born in Scotland.
Tue Aug 11, 2020, 08:54 PM
Aug 2020

The mothers of FOUR of his children were born in the Soviet Bloc.

I don't think that will go very far. He's blown his wad way too early and often.

sanatanadharma

(3,730 posts)
22. Both of George Washington's parents were not born in the USA
Tue Aug 11, 2020, 09:32 PM
Aug 2020

So, there is precedent for the 2024 President of the USA.



bdjhawk

(420 posts)
26. And she went to high school in Canada!!
Tue Aug 11, 2020, 09:42 PM
Aug 2020

That makes her a radical socialist, doesn’t it?!!!
Quelle horreur!!!

Ms. Toad

(34,093 posts)
27. Already trying . . .
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 12:45 AM
Aug 2020
CLAIM: If Joe Biden picks Kamala Harris as his running mate she will not be eligible to serve as president because her mother is from India and her father is from Jamaica. That means, if Biden is unable to serve a full term as president, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi would be next in line to become president.

AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. Sen. Kamala Harris, a Democrat who represents California, is a natural-born U.S. citizen who is eligible to serve as president.

THE FACTS: Facebook users are spreading a false claim that Harris is not able to serve as president.


https://apnews.com/afs:Content: 9205550851

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OhioBlue

(5,126 posts)
29. I'm reading Mary Trump's book and one line that struck me was that
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 01:00 AM
Aug 2020

Trump's mom made annual trips home to Scotland. It made me think about how tRump projects all of his vulnerabilities, liabilities and failings onto others.... Was his entire attack on Obama about the location of his birth really a projection..... was tRump really born stateside? Really Ann Dunham had no reason or foresight into her son's future to fake the location of his birth. But.... it does sound like something the Trumps might do.

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