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AOC given just 60 seconds to deliver pre-recorded message at DNC (Original Post) Budi Aug 2020 OP
What a beautiful and gracious reaction. Beakybird Aug 2020 #1
Thanks to Elijah Cummings. Budi Aug 2020 #6
smdh, I de-rec this divisive shite Celerity Aug 2020 #2
Why is it divisive? A few days ago there was talk that she wasn't speaking at all. Budi Aug 2020 #10
she was listed to speak from the very first list that came out, and you have been pushing the 'Yang Celerity Aug 2020 #19
Well its true. And I'm not a Yang fan. He made a statement that he wanted to speak to his supporters Budi Aug 2020 #23
+1 BannonsLiver Aug 2020 #21
Yes. And we can choose who to listen to. Budi Aug 2020 #29
60 seconds is enough time for me to make a sandwich in the kitchen or mix a Manhattan. George II Aug 2020 #50
proud of all out Dems--repukes can kiss my ass SiliconValley_Dem Aug 2020 #3
60 Secords is a lot of time . Maybe Yang will get it also after he wins elected office JI7 Aug 2020 #4
Yep canetoad Aug 2020 #11
No other freshman reps get any time at all. nsd Aug 2020 #5
She is fortunate for her spot on the virtual stage. Budi Aug 2020 #8
I was hoping to hear Katie Porter. Budi Aug 2020 #18
Ocasio is one of several Latino speakers. They've gotten Hortensis Aug 2020 #37
NY Post - such a reliable source... tenderfoot Aug 2020 #7
Ok. Forbes has it as well. Budi Aug 2020 #9
Not sure I understand your complaint canetoad Aug 2020 #12
No complaint here! Yang tweeted that he'd like to have had a chance to speak. Budi Aug 2020 #13
Post removed Post removed Aug 2020 #14
K & R Budi Aug 2020 #16
60 seconds more than she spent congratulating Kamala Harris CreekDog Aug 2020 #15
I think it's quite generous considering the format & all. Budi Aug 2020 #17
She didn't? Wow. Of course, this is for those voters who like her, Hortensis Aug 2020 #35
Rep Ocasio-Cortez has chosen to voice her grievance with that decision on Twitter still_one Aug 2020 #20
Maybe BGBD Aug 2020 #24
It's fascinating how you jump to that conclusion Mariana Aug 2020 #26
Not as a complaint about her opportunity to speak, but the restriction on the time she has been still_one Aug 2020 #28
That's how I read it as well. It's a passive-aggressive message... NurseJackie Aug 2020 #38
I believe the issue is with her online supporters. Budi Aug 2020 #30
The post I answered said nothing whatsoever about her online supporters. nt. Mariana Aug 2020 #31
Yes, I read your post. Budi Aug 2020 #33
I agree with you. wcast Aug 2020 #39
More people will get NO TIME AT ALL. NurseJackie Aug 2020 #40
This was my point in the other thread. BGBD Aug 2020 #22
Thank you Joe Biden. Budi Aug 2020 #25
Well, it is prerecorded BGBD Aug 2020 #27
A few reasons come to mind, that is true. Budi Aug 2020 #32
Exactly! No risk of going off-message and no risk of going over the allotted time... NurseJackie Aug 2020 #43
As a Yang supporter I would like to see him speak Sherman A1 Aug 2020 #34
CNN: "Ocasio-Cortez among high-profile Latinos participating in Dem. convention" Hortensis Aug 2020 #36
That is about the correct amount of time Gothmog Aug 2020 #41
60 seconds. Better than nothing. Incrementalism is not bad. betsuni Aug 2020 #42
I agree with that! Completely! NurseJackie Aug 2020 #44
Fart-ins cannot be a thing. betsuni Aug 2020 #45
You know who is NOT being given 60 seconds to speak? George II Aug 2020 #46
Thanks! I was just thinking this. Why are others excluded, R B Garr Aug 2020 #47
Let me guess, something about "establishment" vs "progressive" when it's about celebrity. betsuni Aug 2020 #48
Umhm. For the party, tho, it's about her followers, Hortensis Aug 2020 #51
Sharice Davids has done a LOT for her constituents. She has two staffed offices... NurseJackie Aug 2020 #49
I've been contributing to Democratic campaigns for about 30 years, or more. The ONLY time.... George II Aug 2020 #52

Beakybird

(3,333 posts)
1. What a beautiful and gracious reaction.
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 01:29 AM
Aug 2020

I sometimes disagree with AOC, but I think she's noble and articulate.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
6. Thanks to Elijah Cummings.
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 01:43 AM
Aug 2020

I don't see why she needed this quote tho.
She got a minute to speak, which is more than a lot of other great Democrats.
Be happy. Make it a grand one minute speech. Others have offered profound & impressioned messages of hope & peace & unity in less than that.

The unifying message of the moment is addressing the catastrophy of Donald Trump.

I look forward to hearing her deliver a solid blow to him.







 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
10. Why is it divisive? A few days ago there was talk that she wasn't speaking at all.
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 01:53 AM
Aug 2020

There are many short-time speakers throughout the event.

There is nothing divisive about her being given a time-slot to speak on the Nat'l stage.

Celerity

(43,389 posts)
19. she was listed to speak from the very first list that came out, and you have been pushing the 'Yang
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 02:16 AM
Aug 2020

before AOC' claptrap for awhile now.

This OP is passive aggressive bollocks

Well, that's 60 seconds more than Andrew Yang got!

Lucky her!



and it is divisive.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
23. Well its true. And I'm not a Yang fan. He made a statement that he wanted to speak to his supporters
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 02:37 AM
Aug 2020

The only thing divisie is what's being said from her own supporters.

She was not on the 1st list. That is why her supporters were upset.
She was added to the on going list and now her supporters are upset because it was only 60 seconds. Thus the tweet from her citing the quote by Elijah Cummings.

Appreciate her trying to calm her supporters.
She did the right thing & will deliver a fine one minute speach at the virtual Dem Convention.

Hopefully everyone will be satisfied & come away with their focus on the REAL issue for 2020, Trump & the GOP.


BannonsLiver

(16,387 posts)
21. +1
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 02:36 AM
Aug 2020

True to form, I’m afraid.

People need to get it in their heads this is going to be more of a snappy move it along convention. The TV time has been dramatically cut.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
29. Yes. And we can choose who to listen to.
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 02:54 AM
Aug 2020

I really don't care one way or another, but I do hope this now quiets the ire from online her supporters.

I was hoping to hear from Katie Porter. But she's not on the speakers list either. Not as of now anyway.

We have so many voices that have worked hard these past four years. Who contributed & kept the faith for this country.

They too deserved 60 seconds to address their supporters & bring a unified purpose to November 2020.

Democrats are a great & diverse Party.

I can't wait to hear Biden & Harris drive home the dire need to VoteBlue & reiterate the many atrocities lain upon us all, by the GOP & Trump.



Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
37. Ocasio is one of several Latino speakers. They've gotten
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 07:30 AM
Aug 2020

short shrift in the political media (and here, not that anyone but a handful of us notices that), but the party leadership knows extremely well how important Latino Democrats are to us -- and how much more important they could be if they voted their power.

At 3/4 of all Dems, Katie Porter's skin color/ethnicity is well represented without her.

canetoad

(17,162 posts)
12. Not sure I understand your complaint
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 01:56 AM
Aug 2020

Limited number of speaking spots; everybody wants one. She got one.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
13. No complaint here! Yang tweeted that he'd like to have had a chance to speak.
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 02:05 AM
Aug 2020

Address & unify his supporters. He didn't get a speaking spot.

A few days ago AOC supporters were taking issue that she wasn't on the 1st draft of speakers.
Now she is.
And now they are saying she should have more than a minute.---

I have no complaint.

I do look forward to defending Biden & Harris as they go up against Trump & the GOP..


Response to Budi (Original post)

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
15. 60 seconds more than she spent congratulating Kamala Harris
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 02:08 AM
Aug 2020

seems pretty generous.

i like AOC but i don't like that kind of petty BS, but she's not the first to act this way, but she doesn't deserve to be treated different than she's treating others.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
35. She didn't? Wow. Of course, this is for those voters who like her,
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 07:12 AM
Aug 2020

not a reward to her. Some believe the media hype that she's a major figure in the party, and they wouldn't understand her not appearing.

still_one

(92,202 posts)
20. Rep Ocasio-Cortez has chosen to voice her grievance with that decision on Twitter
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 02:32 AM
Aug 2020

I am not sure if that is the best way to air this grievance, but I have several questions

Were any other speakers given the same restrictions, and are these restrictions subject to change where more time may be given?

Has the DNC had any response to this?

I am not taking a pro or con position on this, but would like to know the DNC’s reasoning for this decision since it has now been made public


Mariana

(14,857 posts)
26. It's fascinating how you jump to that conclusion
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 02:44 AM
Aug 2020

Tina Sfondeles posted this:

AOC will have just 60 seconds to deliver her remarks next week at the Democratic National Convention.

Rep. Ocasio-Cortez responded to Tina Sfondeles's tweet with this quote:

“I only have a minute.
Sixty seconds in it.
Forced upon me, I did not choose it,
But I know that I must use it.
Give account if I abuse it.
Suffer, if I lose it.

Only a tiny little minute,
But eternity is in it.”

- Dr. Benjamin E. Mays
(and recited by Elijah Cummings) 💜

And you interpret that quote, in that context, as a complaint about her opportunity to speak during the convention? Seriously?

You're really reaching here.

still_one

(92,202 posts)
28. Not as a complaint about her opportunity to speak, but the restriction on the time she has been
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 02:53 AM
Aug 2020

given

You don't seriously read into that, that she is NOT disappointed that she is only being given 1 minute?

"Forced upon me, I did not choose it"

My mistake. I am sure she is thrilled about the time limit of 1 minute. I guess that is why many of her supporters are responding to her tweet with disappointment that she is given such a short time period

I don't know who is reaching here, since it seems that responses to that tweet from her supporters seem to take the position that the time given her is not adequate





NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
38. That's how I read it as well. It's a passive-aggressive message...
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 07:40 AM
Aug 2020

That's how I read it as well. It's a passive-aggressive message of disappointment. That's the only reason for the cryptic response that's borderline inappropriate, in my opinion. I think it would have been better with a simple: "I'm thrilled to confirm to everyone that I will have the honor of giving a one-minute pre-recorded speech at the Democratic National Convention."

It's clear that she and her supporters felt that she was entitled to more time. She's merely hinting at it, but her twitter followers aren't so reserved in expressing their disappointment and their belief that she was somehow cheated.

Fortunately for everyone, it will be pre-recorded so that her message will neatly fit into the allotted time period. No diverting from the script. No flubs. (She can do as many re-takes as needed.) No ad-libbing. No surprises. No delays because of audience chanting or extended reactions to typical "applause lines", etc, etc.

All I'm trying to point out is this: Many people are NOT speaking at all. Additionally, others who have been given the HONOR of speaking have ALSO been given compressed schedules. Considering that each day has been reduced by 66% (from 6 hours to 2 hours) in normal times her one minute would be the equivalent of THREE minutes.



wcast

(595 posts)
39. I agree with you.
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 07:40 AM
Aug 2020

The poem is clearly to show that she is grateful for a minute, but it is enough time to get out a powerful message.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
40. More people will get NO TIME AT ALL.
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 08:13 AM
Aug 2020

The entire convention time (televised) has been reduced by 66%. I think she's lucky to be speaking at all.

Fortunately for everyone, it will be pre-recorded so that her message will neatly fit into the allotted time period. No diverting from the script. No flubs. (She can do as many re-takes as needed.) No ad-libbing. No surprises. No delays because of audience chanting or extended reactions to typical "applause lines", etc, etc.

All I'm trying to point out is this: Many people are NOT speaking at all. Additionally, others who have been given the HONOR of speaking have ALSO been given compressed schedules. Considering that each day has been reduced from 6 hours to 2 hours, in normal times her one minute would be the equivalent of a very generous THREE minutes.



 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
22. This was my point in the other thread.
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 02:37 AM
Aug 2020

Be grateful that you are getting to speak at all, nobody owed it to you. You're getting to speak because Biden is letting you.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
32. A few reasons come to mind, that is true.
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 03:06 AM
Aug 2020

I can't wait for Biden's official nom & acceptance, & his speech.

And THEN, to hear Kamala Harris speak to the Nation, "for the people".

We are so fortunate to be represented by these two capable people.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
43. Exactly! No risk of going off-message and no risk of going over the allotted time...
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 09:19 AM
Aug 2020

Exactly! No risk of going off-message and no risk of going over the allotted time... due to ad-libbing, improvising, or pausing for unnecessarily long applause-line responses.

I think the DNC was being very generous with the short amount of time that is available for such a compressed convention. Six hours of nightly speakers is reduced to TWO hours.

Everyone gets less time. And many more don't get to speak AT ALL!!!

These are strange and frightening and difficult and challenging times.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
34. As a Yang supporter I would like to see him speak
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 05:57 AM
Aug 2020

At the convention, that said your post i find to be very mean spirited and divisive. No matter what you think of her she is an elected Democrat and well known member of the party, he was a candidate (one that in my opinion got screwed over by the media) but was not elected to any office.


Andrew Yang will do just fine in reaching out to his supporters and expanding upon his base as he still remains three steps ahead of the pack in his vision.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
36. CNN: "Ocasio-Cortez among high-profile Latinos participating in Dem. convention"
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 07:27 AM
Aug 2020
Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York, the progressive first-term lawmaker, is one of several high-profile Latinos slated to participate in the Democratic National Convention next week.

Ocasio-Cortez, an early endorser of Bernie Sanders' presidential bid, will be part of a segment nominating the senator from Vermont at the convention on Tuesday night, the officials said, and she also will be featured in a video airing on Wednesday. The congresswoman's participation further highlights the Biden campaign's efforts to bring the progressive wing of the party into the fold.

New Mexico Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham, Sen. Catherine Cortez Masto of Nevada and former Housing and Urban Development Secretary Julián Castro will also have roles in next week's event, Democratic officials tell CNN. While the exact schedule is still being finalized, the lineup comes as the party seeks to highlight the diversity of its members and supporters as Joe Biden officially becomes its presidential nominee.

Gov. Lujan Grisham and Sen. Cortez Masto, who were among the early names mentioned as possible contenders for the Democratic vice presidential nomination, will have individual speaking slots at the convention along with California Secretary of State Alex Padilla, who endorsed Biden during the primaries.

Former Housing and Urban Development Secretary Julian Castro, who delivered the keynote address at the Democratic National Convention in 2012, will be part of a segment featuring former 2020 presidential candidates.

Several Latino elected officials who endorsed Biden during the primary will also have roles in the convention -- Nevada state Sen. Yvanna Cancela, Long Beach, California, Mayor Robert Garcia and Texas state Rep. Victoria Neave.

"Latinos are an integral part of the fabric of this nation, which is why we are making significant efforts to ensure Latino voices and experiences are highlighted throughout the Democratic National Convention," said Julie Chávez Rodriguez, a senior adviser to the Biden campaign.

betsuni

(25,532 posts)
42. 60 seconds. Better than nothing. Incrementalism is not bad.
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 08:42 AM
Aug 2020

In this modern world shorter is better!

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
44. I agree with that! Completely!
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 09:24 AM
Aug 2020

I wonder if, even in a post-Covid19 world, could this format be used for again for future conventions? We'll have four years to fine-tune and prepare and polish it. We'll be able to work out the kinks and dings. It could be a better and more cost-effective way.

One added benefit is that we won't have to worry about people being booed or disrespected as we've shamefully seen in another convention.

George II

(67,782 posts)
46. You know who is NOT being given 60 seconds to speak?
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 09:38 AM
Aug 2020

Steny Hoyer
Adam Schiff
Eric Swalwell
Hakeem Jeffries
Jerry Nadler
Carolyn Maloney
Joaquin Castro

And also:

Sharice Davids
Jahana Hayes
Lucy McBath
Lauren Underwood
Deb Haaland

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
47. Thanks! I was just thinking this. Why are others excluded,
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 09:42 AM
Aug 2020

especially those with significant contributions to our party. Adam Schiff is a spectacular contributor! So many others are equally as deserving.

betsuni

(25,532 posts)
48. Let me guess, something about "establishment" vs "progressive" when it's about celebrity.
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 09:46 AM
Aug 2020

"Progressive" isn't about policy, it's about celebrity.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
51. Umhm. For the party, tho, it's about her followers,
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:14 AM
Aug 2020

to please and pay respect to them. Of course you're right that some of those are drawn by her celebrity persona, much the way Trumpsters were to his.

Better pay due about now to those who are strongly committed to stopping the RW forces and don't need special attention but deserve the consideration we all do.

I was genuinely surprised that her tweet was so unappreciative of this honor, though. Is she among those dazzled by her celebrity so that she thinks she's as important, more even, than those speakers she feels should have less time so she can have more? Whatever's behind it, kind of a wow.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
49. Sharice Davids has done a LOT for her constituents. She has two staffed offices...
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 09:47 AM
Aug 2020

Sharice Davids has done a LOT for her constituents. She has two staffed offices... and she spends a LOT of time at home. That's something that impresses me about her. Plus, the fact that she's very humble and doesn't seek the spotlight. Those are the qualities that impress me the most and she is someone who is deserving. All politicians should strive to be more like her.



George II

(67,782 posts)
52. I've been contributing to Democratic campaigns for about 30 years, or more. The ONLY time....
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 04:56 PM
Aug 2020

....I've given to anyone outside of my own community or state or for President, was to her campaign back in 2018.

Now that her primary is over and she knows who she's running against I'll be contributing again this campaign.

She's an inspiring new member of Congress - she's done it right - she's crushing it:

- Had TWO District offices up and running even before taking the oath of office, and they're fully staffed
- Out and about in her district, meeting with constituents to see what they need
- Holding town halls frequently
- Introducing legislation of her own (!)

All without fanfare or headline seeking.

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