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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI think they're gonna try to link Biden to a child sex ring
There are too many murmurings about pedophilia on BookFace and it is rearing its head in multiple ways
I think THAT is their October Surprise. I don't know the best way to combat it, other than to say to call it out, because you know it isn't true.
It is rampant right now, which is why I think they're laying the groundwork
SiliconValley_Dem
(1,656 posts)Baltimike
(4,146 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)is built on. We'll get to see how well the LittleFaceGate scandal that Joe's one of those who also eats children's faces goes over.
At least this is becoming a huge problem for the right, and for evangelical sects in general, many of which are being badly harmed by many Qers corrupting their religion with insanely extreme political nuttery.
Demsrule86
(68,582 posts)Baltimike
(4,146 posts)Thanks for the kick though
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)Baltimike
(4,146 posts)USALiberal
(10,877 posts)SiliconValley_Dem
(1,656 posts)Baltimike
(4,146 posts)Demsrule86
(68,582 posts)ignore...but you are heading there right now and I am trashing this terrible OP...shameful.
Baltimike
(4,146 posts)I will NOT be self deleting.
Please use that ignore button. I will consider it a badge of honor
Really. Full and final answer. Not gonna change my mind. Not now. Not with 3 or 4 more tantrums. I. disagree. with. you. and. will. not. kowtow. to. you. this. day. or. any. other.
Thanks.
Baltimike
(4,146 posts)obamanut2012
(26,080 posts)Baltimike
(4,146 posts)Baltimike
(4,146 posts)LisaL
(44,973 posts)pizza place that didn't actually have a basement. What else is new?
Baltimike
(4,146 posts)LisaL
(44,973 posts)Not much you can do about people like this.
Baltimike
(4,146 posts)Me.
(35,454 posts)and really, I wouldn't go there if I were them. We will be flooded with pics of him and Ivanka cuddling.
Baltimike
(4,146 posts)we have to be ready
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)stopbush
(24,396 posts)davekriss
(4,618 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)It's not like they are intelligent people loving consciously in reality.
WyattKansas
(1,648 posts)The Democratic Party must compile clips of their prior projections and follow with what has come out about tRUMP & Republicans to educate anyone who doesn't see what they are doing. Don't explain what is happening or defend who they attack, because they ignore facts and only respond to visual stimuli. But do dump their projections all back in their laps by showing the fantasy freaks the real facts about those who feed them their fantasy conspiracies.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Baltimike
(4,146 posts)chowder66
(9,071 posts)3 democrat brothers are running it.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/21/politics/meidastouch-trump-videos/index.html
Mike Nelson
(9,959 posts)... I've already seen this stuff. I've seen social media posts saying he'a a pedo and showing photos of him smelling kids' hair. They will go very low and we should be prepared. There is no "bottom" with these people... it will be worse than Obama or Hillary.
Baltimike
(4,146 posts)and they will stop at NOTHING. The TRUTH doesn't matter...the FACTS don't matter.
"When they go low, you go high" got us a Russian infiltration...
"When they go low, DON'T BACK DOWN" is how we take it
TexasBushwhacker
(20,196 posts)of him "smelling a girls hair". Actually it was Beau's daughter (his granddaughter( and it was at Beau's funeral.
They go low. We go high. Chant it like a mantra.
RKP5637
(67,110 posts)The GOP never does anything based on their merits, because they have none. It's always based on lies, distortions and smoke screens. It's become a party of freaks and filth.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Because many rethugs are facing prosecution.
"Open and shut case." 😉
luvs2sing
(2,220 posts)from the same (now ex) FB friend supposedly showing all the times Biden has molested children in public. The friend posting them is a trumper with a long history of being abused and trafficked herself, and its impossible to convince her that this is not true. She knows because she has been there. Of course, the videos did not violate FBs nonexistent TOS so theyre still there.
Baltimike
(4,146 posts)and I am proud of you for it.
We can't back down and just let them get away with it
Frustratedlady
(16,254 posts)I hope the FBI questions her and puts a stop (or, at least a scare) to any more comments like it.
If they truly connect him with another pizza parlor/child sex ring, it won't be surprising since the Repukes only think of sex at many levels. They have a severe problem, not only with their accusations, but with their own crimes...convictions.
Kingofalldems
(38,458 posts)Baltimike
(4,146 posts)it's rampant. Head over there and take a look for yourself.
Baltimike
(4,146 posts)Head over there and have a look for yourself
Baltimike
(4,146 posts)Arkansas Granny
(31,518 posts)Baltimike
(4,146 posts)and ignoring it just gives them the head start they want
peggysue2
(10,830 posts)The Q Klan has a sweet spot for pedo scandals; it's at the heart of their belief system. Trump presumably is going to round up all these pedophiles (global in nature) after which there will be mass executions.
It's really a sick, violent strain running through Republican politics.
And we thought the Tea Party gang was bad. Yikes!
I think most Americans find this line of attack sickening.
moonscape
(4,673 posts)many of those dangerous fruitcakes there are, but there was discussion of this on one of the MSNBC shows I watched last night. The guest was a woman who has been following them for a couple/few years. Scary.
BannonsLiver
(16,394 posts)MaryMagdaline
(6,855 posts)Baltimike
(4,146 posts)The Clinton Foundation bullshit was three times around the world before the truth even had a chance to put its shoes on
Even now, the Trump Foundation needing to dissolve looks like retribution for going after the Clinton Foundation. No, I don't *agree* with that, but that is how it happened.
Polly Hennessey
(6,798 posts)We know who we are dealing with and so does the Biden campaign and The Lincoln Project.
Baltimike
(4,146 posts)different posts on this thread? I am NOT the only one seeing this. But thanks for your concern
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)How do people still not know how this works?
Autumn
(45,105 posts)what a political discussion board is for?
Baltimike
(4,146 posts)PS. I ain't your echo chamber or your underling.
SiliconValley_Dem
(1,656 posts)you just flung rw rumors out there
Baltimike
(4,146 posts)You're welcome
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)This kind of stuff works by being propagated, period. Debunking doesn't work. It is effective the more it is spread, period. BaltmoreMike is like a cavalry officer in World War I. He has no idea how the new technology of information warfare works, and it's pretty sad and pathetic. Stop amplifying and sign al boosting nonsense, period.
Baltimike
(4,146 posts)Last edited Thu Aug 13, 2020, 01:15 PM - Edit history (1)
SiliconValley_Dem
(1,656 posts)you really have no leg to stand on here.
out of all of the good topics to discuss about Dems you went with this. says a lot.
Baltimike
(4,146 posts)I said what *I* think they are doing. I am not alone. For someone taking the position of "don't bring up the subject" your RESPONDING AT ALL says the same about you that you are trying to put on me.
PS. The birth certificate thing did grow immensely before Obama. himself. addressed. it.
Thanks for the kick though. Still standing.
SiliconValley_Dem
(1,656 posts)I am doing the same knowingly kicking your thread for different reasons
Baltimike
(4,146 posts)Baltimike
(4,146 posts)I appreciate your super cool attempt to be a DU discussion board strategist. But that you respond over and over again really does prove my point. We respond to things we disagree with.
SiliconValley_Dem
(1,656 posts)Baltimike
(4,146 posts)greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)Your idea that you're combatting this stuff in any way is silly, outdated, and delusional.
Baltimike
(4,146 posts)just allows it to become the narrative, instead of a debate.
I do appreciate you though...with that "spreading it around" thing. If that were the case, and you really are thinking it, WHY ARE *YOU* KICKING IT UP?? Isn't that "spreading it around"?
Perhaps you really don't think what you post?
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)rather than simply getting hysterical or overly-emotional when asked for that evidence?
SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)Their nonsense will gain no traction. Not this time.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Does he really want to go there?
LisaL
(44,973 posts)He like to project.
Baltimike
(4,146 posts)FM123
(10,053 posts)There is a kind of "herd immunity" that the country has acquired over the past almost four years, from his outlandish lies day in and day out - trump could lie and say Biden eats kittens for breakfast and other than his small permanent base - no one would even flinch anymore.
Baltimike
(4,146 posts)But we have to be ready if that's wrong.
brush
(53,784 posts)Biden connected to a pedo ring is about as believable as Hillary and the pedo ring in a pizza shop.
Their Oct. surprise will probably come from Barr's continuing investigations into Biden's son/Ukraine, which has really already been debunked. Only trump's base will believe any pedo shit, and they're already voting for him so there's no added value in pushing that trash.
Baltimike
(4,146 posts)brush
(53,784 posts)so there's no vote-gain in pushing such an unbelievable story.
IMO if there's an Oct. surprise at all from the repugs it'll have to be more substantive/believable than Biden in a pedo ring. That dog won't hunt.
Baltimike
(4,146 posts)brush
(53,784 posts)Baltimike
(4,146 posts)By doing it, repeatedly, you KEEP proving my point.
Do you think I should remain silent about the shit they're pulling? If that's the case, why don;t you practice what you preach?
brush
(53,784 posts)repug talking points.
Baltimike
(4,146 posts)But you KEEP responding to something you don't like. By doing so, you are proving my point. Really.
Succinctly.
I am not repeating repig talking points. I am saying what *I* see on the horizon.
I am not alone. Please don't try to control me. Your responding to this PROVES MY POINT that we need to be ready.
brush
(53,784 posts)Baltimike
(4,146 posts)or shrink to some echo chamber of "I won't bring this up so they can spread it far and wide"
brush
(53,784 posts)DUers aren't falling for this stuff. Post this stuff on indy sites pr facebook, somewhere where some who might be gullible enough to believe it hang out. But most of them will probably already be trump voters. But please proceed, governor.
Baltimike
(4,146 posts)Please stop trying to move the goal post.
Oh, and when BookFace's fact checking game is borne from Tucker Carlson, when they are taking payment in rubles, pretending they don't matter, or can't do damage is utter folly.
We like to respond and address things we don;t like.
Thanks for proving it again and again. And for the kick.
brush
(53,784 posts)Baltimike
(4,146 posts)Thanks for the kick (and proving my point (again and again and again)
brush
(53,784 posts)Baltimike
(4,146 posts)OhioBlue
(5,126 posts)this. Way more than pizza gate. I think the pandemic screwed with their minds. They are believing and sharing qanon. I've infollowed dozens of people on Facebook. They're hashtagging save the children and holding rallies for God's sake. This isn't trivial. This is getting to swing voters.
brush
(53,784 posts)so there's no vote-gain pushing such trash. Deplorables will be deplorable.
Baltimike
(4,146 posts)but I know too many milquetoast folks for whom that is just not true.
Trump Chumps spread this to try and get fence folks less apt to vote.
brush
(53,784 posts)Baltimike
(4,146 posts)brush
(53,784 posts)Baltimike
(4,146 posts)Like you *keep* doing it...the difference between you and me is that *I* want to do it to THEM, and you want to do it to ME.
Also, not their talking points to say what *I* think they're trying to pull. This is a *discussion* board, and I do not have to be your echo chamber. But thanks for your concern. And the kick.
fescuerescue
(4,448 posts)The more people hear the more they believe it.
Baltimike
(4,146 posts)how to combat it is NOT the same fucking thing.
fescuerescue
(4,448 posts)getting people to talk about it is extremely important if you want someone to believe it. Believe anything.
I won't repeat the topic. But it's a topic that I've only heard here. Not from the other side.
The other side appreciates it when we spread rumors against our own.
Polly Hennessey
(6,798 posts)obamanut2012
(26,080 posts)Baltimike
(4,146 posts)Tanuki
(14,918 posts)For example:
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/05/trump-son-baseless-attack-biden-preview-dirty-campaign.amp
"Donald Trump Jr.s Baseless Attack Calling Biden a Pedophile Is a Preview of the Dirty Campaign Ahead
By DANIEL POLITI
MAY 17, 202010:21 AM
When he was asked about it by the New York Times, Trump Jr. borrowed from his fathers tactics and wrote on Twitter that he was only kidding, telling his 5 million followers that the three laughing emojis in the caption of his post should indicate to anyone with a scintilla of common sense that he was just joking around. But then in the same post he also suggested there was something to the meme, saying the former vice president was guilty of unwanted touching as he included several obviously misleading photos of Biden with children.
The presidents son didnt stop there. He continued to make clear he was going to continue pushing the baseless attack as he retweeted several supporters who agreed with his allegation. He then proceeded to tweet a video compilation of Biden showing affection to children, largely at swearing-in ceremonies at the Capitol. All the touching & hair sniffing is TOTALLY APPROPRIATE & 100% NORMAL, he wrote in the tweet he has now pinned to his profile. Everyone does it! Trump Jr. then doubled down on a subsequent tweet that included another video compilation: Does anyone really think this is normal behavior from Joe!???
....
For now at least, Biden appears set against falling into these clear provocations from the Trump camp, characterizing them as efforts to distract Americans as the coronavirus crisis continues to engulf the nation. Some of Bidens allies are convinced that Trumps strategy will end up backfiring considering the soaring unemployment rate and rising COVID-19 death toll. The public is really focused on what matters in this election. And theyre not being dragged into side issues and they are not being dragged into manufactured issues, Mike Donilon, the senior strategist for Bidens campaign, tells the Washington Post. Its just too serious. So I think Trump is risking a real problem in trying to push the conversation to a place where the country knows thats not whats at stake.".. (more)
magicarpet
(14,154 posts)roamer65
(36,745 posts)Dump is involved.
Response to roamer65 (Reply #31)
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magicarpet
(14,154 posts)The secret Epstein Papers and videos prove Biden prefers little girls. More after this commercial break.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)It speaks volumes that they have no plan to improve or fix anything, so they have to lie about opponents.
LuckyCharms
(17,444 posts)I have noticed the same thing at several online sites, without specific ties to Biden, but this stuff is slowing starting to percolate. At this point, this stuff about child sex rings is popping up en masse, presumably by Russian Bots, and for no apparent reason.
I'm sorry to see that you are being criticized for posting this.
It is always better to have a heads-up on the enemy's plans than to be blindsided by them. When you know what bullshit you will be dealing with, you can better formulate a defense well before the time it becomes a problem.
Baltimike
(4,146 posts)I have a pretty thick skin, but I can see this ugly thing rearing its ugly head and the sooner we are ready for that battle, the better.
Someone on this thread said it succinctly...there is no bottom. That doesn't mean we don't have to get ready for it
malaise
(269,038 posts)almost 170,000 dead and approaching 5.5million infected
Kid Berwyn
(14,908 posts)All the Ways President Donald Trump is Connected to Ghislaine Maxwell
The accused Jeffrey Epstein accomplice was a regular in the same New YorkPalm Beach social circuit.
https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/money-and-power/a33393615/president-donald-trump-ghislaine-maxwell-relationship/
Sedona
(3,769 posts)did I mention she's a Qanon RWNJ, evangelical, anti vaxxer, anti masker plandemic pusher?
How am I even related to such ignorance?
Depressing
Baltimike
(4,146 posts)and we have to prepare for it.
berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)Thats how you respond.
Initech
(100,080 posts)ellie
(6,929 posts)run out of the basement of the pizza shop that has no basement? That one? Or is this the one that is run from Mars? It's hard to keep the delusions straight.
Baltimike
(4,146 posts)always saying that Epstein didn't kill himself and that pedophilia is the most important thing facing our country, not the pandemic. Many memes saying the same thing
I post the pic of Putin kissing that kid's stomach and it usually works, but there is too much coordination here. They're going to try something
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)Not all of them need to be brought here breathlessly, I think.
There is no link there. It's bullshit.
magicarpet
(14,154 posts)... from your adversaries before they launch their next missile aimed to land in your lap.
Damage control,... anticipating and formulating a response before your enemies missiles depart the launch silo and are heading your way.
A risk mitigation strategy,
by definition, is taking steps to reduce the risk (the severity of the impact and/or probability of the occurrence). Losses can quickly accumulate if rates rapidly change and, at that point, reducing the risk becomes considerably more costly.
Baltimike
(4,146 posts)I was just thinking of having some links handy, about their bullshit...a rapid response kind of thing.
I won't be shrinking to anyone's complaining about my post though...that's for sure.
MrsCoffee
(5,803 posts)These kinds of posts might be better suited there if you are interested in debunking this kind of stuff.
https://democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1022
underpants
(182,826 posts)Pics of Joe near kids were all,over the place about two years ago. It seemed to die down a bit but Ive seen it starting to pop up against.
Baltimike
(4,146 posts)it happened a few years back, died down, and now it's back..but the many forms in which its back made me think to see if we can't put our heads together here.
I know it's bullshit just like I know the earth isn't flat. When you encounter a flat earther, bring up the horizon, and it usually stops it cold.
There might be a similar tonic to this, if we get TO each other, instead of AT one another.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)They lie and that should be our mantra from now until November. Everything they say is a lie, especially when it comes to Biden and Harris. They will say anything and everything to discredit them, no matter how outrageous it is. Ever hear of the "Boy Who Cried Wolf?" Sooner or later the people will see through their bullshit.
Never defend, never explain. Just dismiss their lies outright for the lies they are. Call them liars, call them desperate, but never go on the defensive, because at that point we will have lost.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)Holy shit the fact this post is left up with your awful post title is really amazing to me. There is literally nothing good about your post. And you can reply back that you're trying to combat that but it falls on deaf ears when the post title is so in your face offensive and does nothing to combat this awful smear (no different than a newspaper headline).
You should be ashamed of yourself for pushing conspiracy bullshit under the guise of combating it. There is nothing in your sick, accusatory post title that does any of that - and the title of often the only thing people read.
SiliconValley_Dem
(1,656 posts)Polly Hennessey
(6,798 posts)always fall for the same schlock. Defending the right to continually repeat the gossip that we have heard for years.
eShirl
(18,494 posts)"I wish her well"
Baltimike
(4,146 posts)or backing down
Happy Hoosier
(7,308 posts)I think that ship has sailed.
Pizzagate pretty much exposed this all as fever-dream nonsense.
Zorro
(15,740 posts)So its out there, as unbelievable as it sounds. So dont be so naive to think it wont grow among the RWNJ crowd the closer we get to the election. It would not surprise me to hear Trump mention it.
GoCubsGo
(32,086 posts)Just go on Farcebook, and read the comments sections in any Biden-related stories from PBS/NPR, ABC, NBC, CBS, CBC, BBC, Deutsche Welle, Rolling Stone... The trolls have already started with the innuendo, and even some outright accusations.
Baltimike
(4,146 posts)(and let's face it, is there really a difference? I mean...really??) are the masses.
And so are we.
MrsCoffee
(5,803 posts)fescuerescue
(4,448 posts)It's done under the mistaken belief that this is "strategizing" against it. As if we are DNC insiders.
We aren't insiders. We aren't building strategy.
In this thread we are just creating a rumor that doesn't exist, while hoping that the other side doesn't repeat what was written.
SoCalNative
(4,613 posts)is make sure that photos of Drumpf with Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell are on a loop with the video of him wishing her well. Then make sure to add in the photos of the victims in that montage.
boguspotus
(286 posts)No one has been able to come back with a thing.
"Oh yea, Joe the pedophile - yep you've seen all the photo and video evidence, right? There's no doubt he's a pedo. So obviously with all this evidence available to anyone, those parents have obviously have had Biden charged with multiple child sex crimes right?? Oh wait......."
Demsrule86
(68,582 posts)struggle4progress
(118,290 posts)They'll put little children in cages! A pandemic will sweep across the country! And they'll destroy the post office!"
Baltimike
(4,146 posts)davekriss
(4,618 posts)Gawd, what nonsense.
Baltimike
(4,146 posts)saying that basements can be sealed over...just *any* logic pretzel. An oft repeated lie becomes the truth if we let them get away with it
We can't let them
Luciferous
(6,081 posts)tinrobot
(10,903 posts)I also suspect he'll blame Obama for the post office slowdown.
csziggy
(34,136 posts)They try to project their own sins on their opposition. When they talk about child sex trafficking, think of this:
Why is Dolt45 sympathetic to Maxwell while attacking Democratic women? Because he knows shat she did and is sympathetic to it.
So any time a Republican posts a lie like this I KNOW that they are the ones guilty of it.
Kingofalldems
(38,458 posts)KentuckyWoman
(6,685 posts)Baltimike
(4,146 posts)***COUGH*** Well that's the EXACT same thing I want to do too....the differnce is I want to do it to them, and you want to do it to me.
But thanks for the kick though
KentuckyWoman
(6,685 posts)Your deep concern should get all the visibility it so richly deserves.
This cough tho.
Baltimike
(4,146 posts)That cough though
ornotna
(10,803 posts)I don't see that nonsense on my facebook.
Baltimike
(4,146 posts)ornotna
(10,803 posts)I don't allow just any old crap to be posted to my feed.
BGBD
(3,282 posts)because nobody who isn't a Q nut will believe it, the media won't give it any coverage, and the average voter will never even see it.
If thats what they got then they got nothing.
WestLosAngelesGal
(268 posts)How do we ask for this to be removed?
Baltimike
(4,146 posts)and do not need to acquiesce to you. Thanks for the kick though
Welcome to DU
AmyStrange
(7,989 posts)-
if you don't like it, don't reply.
Why keep kicking something that you don't like?
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Proud Liberal Dem
(24,412 posts)Nobody but Qanonites will believe this for a heartbeat IMHO.
Baltimike
(4,146 posts)But we ignored this shit at our peril in 2016. I am not repeating it. If you don;t like it, I understand...but won't be changing my mind.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,412 posts)Baltimike
(4,146 posts)When they went low, we went high in 2016. When they go low in 2020, I am not backing down.
Thanks
Kamala4TheWin
(55 posts)Baltimike
(4,146 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Is there a standard against which this is being measured, or is it simply anecdotal and random postings convincing you to believe and unsupported and emotional premise?
Baltimike
(4,146 posts)but I said what I said. I am not alone in my observation, and I CERTAINLY shouldn't refrain from a g-d thing to appease what other people try to bully me into. Thanks for the kick.
jmowreader
(50,559 posts)Trump has connections to a known child sex ring run by Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell, and there are a hell of a lot of really creepy pictures of Trump with his own daughter in highly inappropriate poses.
Trying to link Joe Biden, who is an honorable man, to a child sex ring would lead to a serious investigation of Trump's probable pedophilia.