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Baltimike

(4,146 posts)
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:05 AM Aug 2020

I think they're gonna try to link Biden to a child sex ring

There are too many murmurings about pedophilia on BookFace and it is rearing its head in multiple ways

I think THAT is their October Surprise. I don't know the best way to combat it, other than to say to call it out, because you know it isn't true.

It is rampant right now, which is why I think they're laying the groundwork

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I think they're gonna try to link Biden to a child sex ring (Original Post) Baltimike Aug 2020 OP
who cares SiliconValley_Dem Aug 2020 #1
I do. Baltimike Aug 2020 #4
All Democratic leaders are linked, a given that all else Hortensis Aug 2020 #33
Your concern is duly noted. Trump is a liar and dirty trickster...it won't work. Demsrule86 Aug 2020 #86
Thanks. But it worked in 2016, so I won't be backing down Baltimike Aug 2020 #117
FFS, really, this is what you want to discuss?? nt USALiberal Aug 2020 #2
FFS that how you wanted to reply?? nt Baltimike Aug 2020 #9
Self delete. nt USALiberal Aug 2020 #25
i second it SiliconValley_Dem Aug 2020 #54
No thank you, but thanks for that. Baltimike Aug 2020 #56
This only hurts our side...so why would you even post this...self delete. I have no one on Demsrule86 Aug 2020 #92
PLEASE do that instead of thinking you will browbeat me into submission Baltimike Aug 2020 #97
No. maybe you should though. nt Baltimike Aug 2020 #57
second this obamanut2012 Aug 2020 #100
Nice try. No dice. Baltimike Aug 2020 #103
but thanks for the kick though. Baltimike Aug 2020 #104
We already had a supposed child sex ring in the basement of LisaL Aug 2020 #3
They still think it's true. nt Baltimike Aug 2020 #6
Some of them think virus is a hoax, or that Earth is flat. LisaL Aug 2020 #11
when they are coordinating and resurrecting child sex rings, there sort of is nt Baltimike Aug 2020 #58
Oh PLease Me. Aug 2020 #5
and the video of him saying he thought she and he had SEX in common. Baltimike Aug 2020 #10
Projecting their own issues again SheltieLover Aug 2020 #7
Yep stopbush Aug 2020 #29
It's what they do davekriss Aug 2020 #93
Of course. SheltieLover Aug 2020 #94
tRUMP & Republican Projections are where the Democratic Party must not fail... WyattKansas Aug 2020 #136
Great idea! SheltieLover Aug 2020 #137
THANK YOU!!! Every bit of THIS!!!! nt Baltimike Aug 2020 #139
You should send this to Meidastouch. They are on twitter and busting out ads. chowder66 Aug 2020 #153
Yes... Mike Nelson Aug 2020 #8
AMEN...no bottom...we have to anticipate their next moves Baltimike Aug 2020 #15
Yeah, I've seen one being circulated TexasBushwhacker Aug 2020 #23
They aren't even bottom of the barrel. They're under the barrel rotting in their filth! RKP5637 Aug 2020 #28
Likely will be worse SheltieLover Aug 2020 #95
Yesterday, three times, I reported the same video.. luvs2sing Aug 2020 #12
Thank you for fighting though. It matters that you do Baltimike Aug 2020 #99
I fear that FOX gal, Perrino (sp?) was sending a message with her Biden comment. Frustratedlady Aug 2020 #13
Got a link on that? Kingofalldems Aug 2020 #14
on the stuff happening on FB? Baltimike Aug 2020 #18
on the BookFace stuff? it's rampant Baltimike Aug 2020 #21
see post #30. nt Baltimike Aug 2020 #47
I think Qanon is trying to keep these rumors going. There are some who want to believe it. Arkansas Granny Aug 2020 #16
that very well could be, but they are laying the groundwork now Baltimike Aug 2020 #52
I agree peggysue2 Aug 2020 #90
And that crazy cult is growing. I had no idea how moonscape Aug 2020 #141
... BannonsLiver Aug 2020 #17
Would that be the one trump was running out of his modeling agency? MaryMagdaline Aug 2020 #19
I thought that was why they are doing it too...remember the Foundation stuff? Baltimike Aug 2020 #55
You are the only one resurrecting this stuff. Polly Hennessey Aug 2020 #73
so me...and the Biden campaign, and Project Lincoln and Baltimike Aug 2020 #119
Stop amplifying bullshit greenjar_01 Aug 2020 #20
Same way people don't seem to know how discussion on a political message board works? Or Autumn Aug 2020 #40
Not amplifying...COMBATTING bullshit Baltimike Aug 2020 #43
you did nothing to combat it SiliconValley_Dem Aug 2020 #53
Nope. I said what I think they're up to. Forewarned is forearmed Baltimike Aug 2020 #59
Correct, but even if this was some debunking, that's still useless greenjar_01 Aug 2020 #85
*NOPE* This thing propagates when it is not challenged, period. Baltimike Aug 2020 #108
wrong. Obama birth certificate and Pizzagate propagated despite push back SiliconValley_Dem Aug 2020 #140
but not NEARLY to the extent it would have were we not to fight back Baltimike Aug 2020 #144
i know you are trying to keep visibility to this thread by keeping it kicked SiliconValley_Dem Aug 2020 #158
and yet here you are...LOL. PS, that's "you're" Baltimike Aug 2020 #159
and thanks for the kick again Baltimike Aug 2020 #161
exactly SiliconValley_Dem Aug 2020 #51
Forewarned is forearmed. Baltimike Aug 2020 #61
You're just spreading it around greenjar_01 Aug 2020 #82
*Nope*. The idea that I ignore it or just let them say it without throwing water on their flames Baltimike Aug 2020 #106
So you're in favor of supporting an allegation with objective evidence? LanternWaste Aug 2020 #163
They could say he is an alien from outer space. Who the fuck cares? SoonerPride Aug 2020 #22
Trump is already linked to a child sex ring. lagomorph777 Aug 2020 #24
Doesn't he always go there? LisaL Aug 2020 #32
That's what he does...project. We have to smash it down. nt Baltimike Aug 2020 #44
I think their October Surprise will be their own surprise. Surprise! Your smears don't work anymore. FM123 Aug 2020 #26
I really hope you're right. Baltimike Aug 2020 #64
For an Oct. surprise to work it has to be believable. brush Aug 2020 #76
An oft repeated lie becomes the truth to gullible folks, that's why we need to challenge it Baltimike Aug 2020 #110
The only ones gullible enough to believe that are his base and they will always vote for him... brush Aug 2020 #111
That's YOUR opinion. Not mine, or others on this very thread. Thanks Baltimike Aug 2020 #121
Keep pushing repug, anti-Biden propaganda. You're doing a wonderful job, Brownie. brush Aug 2020 #124
See how you KEEP responding? That's what I want to do to Trump Chumps on FB Baltimike Aug 2020 #128
Spread actual facts about trump/repug failures (170,000 dead from covid) not anti-Biden,... brush Aug 2020 #130
That's your OPINION. I am not spreading repug talking points Baltimike Aug 2020 #131
Don't be naive. That stuff is coming from trump/russian bot central. brush Aug 2020 #132
Not naive at all. It came from there in 2016 too. We need to address it, not ignore it Baltimike Aug 2020 #134
trump/russian bot central, just as pizza gate in 2016. Wake up. brush Aug 2020 #135
So your continual responding PROVES my point Baltimike Aug 2020 #145
DUers are knowledgeable to know better. Ply that stuff somewhere else. brush Aug 2020 #147
No thank you.I am not your automoton Baltimike Aug 2020 #149
You're really caught up in that, huh? brush Aug 2020 #157
But I can see it for what it is Baltimike Aug 2020 #164
I'm afraid you're wrong. A lot of people are believing OhioBlue Aug 2020 #112
I'm not saying many aren't believing it. I'm saying those people are already trump voters... brush Aug 2020 #114
I appreicate your position Baltimike Aug 2020 #116
That's your opinion. Btw, you're doing a pretty good job spreading repug, anti-Biden propaganda. brush Aug 2020 #118
And that's YOUR opinion. Both times Baltimike Aug 2020 #120
Keep pushing them repug talking points. brush Aug 2020 #125
See how you keep responding to something you disagree with? Baltimike Aug 2020 #127
First step is to get people talking about it on forums fescuerescue Aug 2020 #27
First dstep is to spread rampant memes...discussion boards discussing Baltimike Aug 2020 #49
you should read up on the psychology of advertising fescuerescue Aug 2020 #88
Yes, and someone is an eager tool. n/t Polly Hennessey Aug 2020 #75
bingo obamanut2012 Aug 2020 #101
thanks for the kick...you are doing the exact opposite of what you're claiming is ineffective. Baltimike Aug 2020 #107
This is coming directly from Trump and his team Tanuki Aug 2020 #30
Team trDump,.... Smear Central. magicarpet Aug 2020 #37
Someone needs to leak info from the Maxwell case. roamer65 Aug 2020 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author jmg257 Aug 2020 #148
Breathless/Breaking reporting on Fux Nuz,.. magicarpet Aug 2020 #34
To q rational person SheltieLover Aug 2020 #35
Baltmike, thank you for the post. LuckyCharms Aug 2020 #36
Thank you for this LuckyCharms, I really appreciate it Baltimike Aug 2020 #50
Fuck them and focus malaise Aug 2020 #38
"I wish her well." Kid Berwyn Aug 2020 #39
My RWNJ sister posted in FB Biden owns the pedo island next to Epstein 's Sedona Aug 2020 #41
My brother is the same exact way Baltimike Aug 2020 #62
Trump would have sex with his own daughter! berni_mccoy Aug 2020 #42
Quick! To the Q mobile! Initech Aug 2020 #45
The one that is ellie Aug 2020 #46
They're brining back Piza gate as though the basement was "hidden" Baltimike Aug 2020 #67
They're going to try many things. MineralMan Aug 2020 #48
Opposition Research,... projecting the next line of fire,... magicarpet Aug 2020 #60
damn...this. Baltimike Aug 2020 #65
There is a group for that here. MrsCoffee Aug 2020 #80
I've seen this stuff of Facebook for a few years. DU'ers It is import to anticipate. underpants Aug 2020 #63
Thank you. It seems COORDINATED lately, and you're exactly right Baltimike Aug 2020 #68
Of course they will. And our response should be "Bullshit!" smirkymonkey Aug 2020 #66
Smart post! Let's just spread that rumor with your ridiculous title... Drunken Irishman Aug 2020 #69
exactly! how is this post still up?! SiliconValley_Dem Aug 2020 #70
Amazes me how many people on DU Polly Hennessey Aug 2020 #83
Unlike Don with his good friends Epstein and Maxwell eShirl Aug 2020 #71
I think that is a good point to make, instead of ignoring it Baltimike Aug 2020 #102
Unless they have more than innuendo... Happy Hoosier Aug 2020 #72
I heard it from someone in red red Florida this spring Zorro Aug 2020 #74
They're already at it. GoCubsGo Aug 2020 #77
so true, and DNC strategists have their hands full. The Russian/right wing trolls Baltimike Aug 2020 #96
I think it's stupid to put this out there for them. MrsCoffee Aug 2020 #78
It is fescuerescue Aug 2020 #89
All we need to do SoCalNative Aug 2020 #79
When talking to Maga Morons on FB or in person - I say something like this. Usually shuts them up: boguspotus Aug 2020 #81
They tried that forever...been around the entire primary and campaign. No one will believe them. Demsrule86 Aug 2020 #84
"If you elect Democrats, they will set up fake universities and scam charities! struggle4progress Aug 2020 #87
love this. nt Baltimike Aug 2020 #151
No doubt from the basement of a pizza parlor davekriss Aug 2020 #91
Oh, they've tried to ressurect that one Baltimike Aug 2020 #98
Um, Epstein and Trump? Don't think they should even attempt that one lol Luciferous Aug 2020 #105
If they're guilty of it, they will accuse the opposition of it. tinrobot Aug 2020 #109
As I said in another post today - Republicans project csziggy Aug 2020 #113
I see what's going on. Kingofalldems Aug 2020 #115
Make sure you spread it everywhere... cough KentuckyWoman Aug 2020 #122
See how you felt the need to respond to something you didn't like or approve of? Baltimike Aug 2020 #126
Kicking again for you. KentuckyWoman Aug 2020 #166
Thank you. I suggest post #136 Baltimike Aug 2020 #168
We must travel in different circles ornotna Aug 2020 #123
we do indeed...and I am not the only one on this very thread saying so Baltimike Aug 2020 #129
My Facebook is very restricted ornotna Aug 2020 #138
I hope this is their october surprise BGBD Aug 2020 #133
What is this rumor garbage doing here? WestLosAngelesGal Aug 2020 #142
Thanks for your concern, but I am not your echo chamber Baltimike Aug 2020 #146
It's a legitimate discussion, but... AmyStrange Aug 2020 #143
I can't see this working Proud Liberal Dem Aug 2020 #150
lots of my fence sitters do. And I dk if they're QAnon, One America or Fox Baltimike Aug 2020 #155
Those people are going to vote Trump anyway Proud Liberal Dem Aug 2020 #156
as I stated repeatedly, I know lots of fence sitters. Baltimike Aug 2020 #160
Get real. Who cares? Kamala4TheWin Aug 2020 #152
see post #4 and post #92, Welcome to DU, and thanks for the kick. nt Baltimike Aug 2020 #154
What is the objective standard of "too many" and "rampant"? LanternWaste Aug 2020 #162
I appreciate your attempt to marginalize my post Baltimike Aug 2020 #165
This is not a path the GOP should take, but they probably will jmowreader Aug 2020 #167

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
33. All Democratic leaders are linked, a given that all else
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:24 AM
Aug 2020

is built on. We'll get to see how well the LittleFaceGate scandal that Joe's one of those who also eats children's faces goes over.

At least this is becoming a huge problem for the right, and for evangelical sects in general, many of which are being badly harmed by many Qers corrupting their religion with insanely extreme political nuttery.

Demsrule86

(68,582 posts)
92. This only hurts our side...so why would you even post this...self delete. I have no one on
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 11:59 AM
Aug 2020

ignore...but you are heading there right now and I am trashing this terrible OP...shameful.

Baltimike

(4,146 posts)
97. PLEASE do that instead of thinking you will browbeat me into submission
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 12:08 PM
Aug 2020

I will NOT be self deleting.

Please use that ignore button. I will consider it a badge of honor

Really. Full and final answer. Not gonna change my mind. Not now. Not with 3 or 4 more tantrums. I. disagree. with. you. and. will. not. kowtow. to. you. this. day. or. any. other.

Thanks.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
3. We already had a supposed child sex ring in the basement of
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:07 AM
Aug 2020

pizza place that didn't actually have a basement. What else is new?

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
11. Some of them think virus is a hoax, or that Earth is flat.
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:10 AM
Aug 2020

Not much you can do about people like this.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
5. Oh PLease
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:08 AM
Aug 2020

and really, I wouldn't go there if I were them. We will be flooded with pics of him and Ivanka cuddling.

WyattKansas

(1,648 posts)
136. tRUMP & Republican Projections are where the Democratic Party must not fail...
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 01:44 PM
Aug 2020

The Democratic Party must compile clips of their prior projections and follow with what has come out about tRUMP & Republicans to educate anyone who doesn't see what they are doing. Don't explain what is happening or defend who they attack, because they ignore facts and only respond to visual stimuli. But do dump their projections all back in their laps by showing the fantasy freaks the real facts about those who feed them their fantasy conspiracies.

Mike Nelson

(9,959 posts)
8. Yes...
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:09 AM
Aug 2020

... I've already seen this stuff. I've seen social media posts saying he'a a pedo and showing photos of him smelling kids' hair. They will go very low and we should be prepared. There is no "bottom" with these people... it will be worse than Obama or Hillary.

Baltimike

(4,146 posts)
15. AMEN...no bottom...we have to anticipate their next moves
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:12 AM
Aug 2020

and they will stop at NOTHING. The TRUTH doesn't matter...the FACTS don't matter.

"When they go low, you go high" got us a Russian infiltration...

"When they go low, DON'T BACK DOWN" is how we take it

TexasBushwhacker

(20,196 posts)
23. Yeah, I've seen one being circulated
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:17 AM
Aug 2020

of him "smelling a girls hair". Actually it was Beau's daughter (his granddaughter( and it was at Beau's funeral.

They go low. We go high. Chant it like a mantra.

RKP5637

(67,110 posts)
28. They aren't even bottom of the barrel. They're under the barrel rotting in their filth!
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:22 AM
Aug 2020

The GOP never does anything based on their merits, because they have none. It's always based on lies, distortions and smoke screens. It's become a party of freaks and filth.

luvs2sing

(2,220 posts)
12. Yesterday, three times, I reported the same video..
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:10 AM
Aug 2020

from the same (now ex) FB friend supposedly showing all the times Biden has molested children in public. The friend posting them is a trumper with a long history of being abused and trafficked herself, and it’s impossible to convince her that this is not true. She “knows” because she has been there. Of course, the videos did not violate FB’s nonexistent TOS so they’re still there.

Baltimike

(4,146 posts)
99. Thank you for fighting though. It matters that you do
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 12:11 PM
Aug 2020

and I am proud of you for it.

We can't back down and just let them get away with it

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
13. I fear that FOX gal, Perrino (sp?) was sending a message with her Biden comment.
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:10 AM
Aug 2020

I hope the FBI questions her and puts a stop (or, at least a scare) to any more comments like it.

If they truly connect him with another pizza parlor/child sex ring, it won't be surprising since the Repukes only think of sex at many levels. They have a severe problem, not only with their accusations, but with their own crimes...convictions.

Baltimike

(4,146 posts)
52. that very well could be, but they are laying the groundwork now
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:39 AM
Aug 2020

and ignoring it just gives them the head start they want

peggysue2

(10,830 posts)
90. I agree
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 11:55 AM
Aug 2020

The Q Klan has a sweet spot for pedo scandals; it's at the heart of their belief system. Trump presumably is going to round up all these pedophiles (global in nature) after which there will be mass executions.

It's really a sick, violent strain running through Republican politics.

And we thought the Tea Party gang was bad. Yikes!

I think most Americans find this line of attack sickening.

moonscape

(4,673 posts)
141. And that crazy cult is growing. I had no idea how
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 02:02 PM
Aug 2020

many of those dangerous fruitcakes there are, but there was discussion of this on one of the MSNBC shows I watched last night. The guest was a woman who has been following them for a couple/few years. Scary.

Baltimike

(4,146 posts)
55. I thought that was why they are doing it too...remember the Foundation stuff?
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:41 AM
Aug 2020

The Clinton Foundation bullshit was three times around the world before the truth even had a chance to put its shoes on

Even now, the Trump Foundation needing to dissolve looks like retribution for going after the Clinton Foundation. No, I don't *agree* with that, but that is how it happened.

Polly Hennessey

(6,798 posts)
73. You are the only one resurrecting this stuff.
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 11:10 AM
Aug 2020

We know who we are dealing with and so does the Biden campaign and The Lincoln Project.

Baltimike

(4,146 posts)
119. so me...and the Biden campaign, and Project Lincoln and
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 01:14 PM
Aug 2020

different posts on this thread? I am NOT the only one seeing this. But thanks for your concern

Autumn

(45,105 posts)
40. Same way people don't seem to know how discussion on a political message board works? Or
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:31 AM
Aug 2020

what a political discussion board is for?

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
85. Correct, but even if this was some debunking, that's still useless
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 11:23 AM
Aug 2020

This kind of stuff works by being propagated, period. Debunking doesn't work. It is effective the more it is spread, period. BaltmoreMike is like a cavalry officer in World War I. He has no idea how the new technology of information warfare works, and it's pretty sad and pathetic. Stop amplifying and sign al boosting nonsense, period.

 

SiliconValley_Dem

(1,656 posts)
140. wrong. Obama birth certificate and Pizzagate propagated despite push back
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 02:01 PM
Aug 2020

you really have no leg to stand on here.

out of all of the good topics to discuss about Dems you went with this. says a lot.

Baltimike

(4,146 posts)
144. but not NEARLY to the extent it would have were we not to fight back
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 03:44 PM
Aug 2020

I said what *I* think they are doing. I am not alone. For someone taking the position of "don't bring up the subject" your RESPONDING AT ALL says the same about you that you are trying to put on me.

PS. The birth certificate thing did grow immensely before Obama. himself. addressed. it.

Thanks for the kick though. Still standing.

 

SiliconValley_Dem

(1,656 posts)
158. i know you are trying to keep visibility to this thread by keeping it kicked
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 04:50 PM
Aug 2020

I am doing the same knowingly kicking your thread for different reasons

Baltimike

(4,146 posts)
161. and thanks for the kick again
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 05:01 PM
Aug 2020

I appreciate your super cool attempt to be a DU discussion board strategist. But that you respond over and over again really does prove my point. We respond to things we disagree with.

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
82. You're just spreading it around
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 11:21 AM
Aug 2020

Your idea that you're combatting this stuff in any way is silly, outdated, and delusional.

Baltimike

(4,146 posts)
106. *Nope*. The idea that I ignore it or just let them say it without throwing water on their flames
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 12:30 PM
Aug 2020

just allows it to become the narrative, instead of a debate.

I do appreciate you though...with that "spreading it around" thing. If that were the case, and you really are thinking it, WHY ARE *YOU* KICKING IT UP?? Isn't that "spreading it around"?

Perhaps you really don't think what you post?

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
163. So you're in favor of supporting an allegation with objective evidence?
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 05:17 PM
Aug 2020

rather than simply getting hysterical or overly-emotional when asked for that evidence?

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
22. They could say he is an alien from outer space. Who the fuck cares?
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:15 AM
Aug 2020

Their nonsense will gain no traction. Not this time.

FM123

(10,053 posts)
26. I think their October Surprise will be their own surprise. Surprise! Your smears don't work anymore.
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:20 AM
Aug 2020

There is a kind of "herd immunity" that the country has acquired over the past almost four years, from his outlandish lies day in and day out - trump could lie and say Biden eats kittens for breakfast and other than his small permanent base - no one would even flinch anymore.

brush

(53,784 posts)
76. For an Oct. surprise to work it has to be believable.
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 11:14 AM
Aug 2020

Biden connected to a pedo ring is about as believable as Hillary and the pedo ring in a pizza shop.

Their Oct. surprise will probably come from Barr's continuing investigations into Biden's son/Ukraine, which has really already been debunked. Only trump's base will believe any pedo shit, and they're already voting for him so there's no added value in pushing that trash.

brush

(53,784 posts)
111. The only ones gullible enough to believe that are his base and they will always vote for him...
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 12:45 PM
Aug 2020

so there's no vote-gain in pushing such an unbelievable story.

IMO if there's an Oct. surprise at all from the repugs it'll have to be more substantive/believable than Biden in a pedo ring. That dog won't hunt.

Baltimike

(4,146 posts)
128. See how you KEEP responding? That's what I want to do to Trump Chumps on FB
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 01:26 PM
Aug 2020

By doing it, repeatedly, you KEEP proving my point.

Do you think I should remain silent about the shit they're pulling? If that's the case, why don;t you practice what you preach?

brush

(53,784 posts)
130. Spread actual facts about trump/repug failures (170,000 dead from covid) not anti-Biden,...
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 01:28 PM
Aug 2020

repug talking points.

Baltimike

(4,146 posts)
131. That's your OPINION. I am not spreading repug talking points
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 01:31 PM
Aug 2020

But you KEEP responding to something you don't like. By doing so, you are proving my point. Really.

Succinctly.

I am not repeating repig talking points. I am saying what *I* see on the horizon.

I am not alone. Please don't try to control me. Your responding to this PROVES MY POINT that we need to be ready.

Baltimike

(4,146 posts)
134. Not naive at all. It came from there in 2016 too. We need to address it, not ignore it
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 01:34 PM
Aug 2020

or shrink to some echo chamber of "I won't bring this up so they can spread it far and wide"

brush

(53,784 posts)
135. trump/russian bot central, just as pizza gate in 2016. Wake up.
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 01:38 PM
Aug 2020

DUers aren't falling for this stuff. Post this stuff on indy sites pr facebook, somewhere where some who might be gullible enough to believe it hang out. But most of them will probably already be trump voters. But please proceed, governor.

Baltimike

(4,146 posts)
145. So your continual responding PROVES my point
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 03:46 PM
Aug 2020

Please stop trying to move the goal post.

Oh, and when BookFace's fact checking game is borne from Tucker Carlson, when they are taking payment in rubles, pretending they don't matter, or can't do damage is utter folly.

We like to respond and address things we don;t like.

Thanks for proving it again and again. And for the kick.

Baltimike

(4,146 posts)
149. No thank you.I am not your automoton
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 04:05 PM
Aug 2020

Thanks for the kick (and proving my point (again and again and again)

OhioBlue

(5,126 posts)
112. I'm afraid you're wrong. A lot of people are believing
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 12:48 PM
Aug 2020

this. Way more than pizza gate. I think the pandemic screwed with their minds. They are believing and sharing qanon. I've infollowed dozens of people on Facebook. They're hashtagging save the children and holding rallies for God's sake. This isn't trivial. This is getting to swing voters.

brush

(53,784 posts)
114. I'm not saying many aren't believing it. I'm saying those people are already trump voters...
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 12:51 PM
Aug 2020

so there's no vote-gain pushing such trash. Deplorables will be deplorable.

Baltimike

(4,146 posts)
116. I appreicate your position
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 01:10 PM
Aug 2020

but I know too many milquetoast folks for whom that is just not true.

Trump Chumps spread this to try and get fence folks less apt to vote.

brush

(53,784 posts)
118. That's your opinion. Btw, you're doing a pretty good job spreading repug, anti-Biden propaganda.
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 01:14 PM
Aug 2020

Baltimike

(4,146 posts)
127. See how you keep responding to something you disagree with?
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 01:25 PM
Aug 2020

Like you *keep* doing it...the difference between you and me is that *I* want to do it to THEM, and you want to do it to ME.

Also, not their talking points to say what *I* think they're trying to pull. This is a *discussion* board, and I do not have to be your echo chamber. But thanks for your concern. And the kick.

Baltimike

(4,146 posts)
49. First dstep is to spread rampant memes...discussion boards discussing
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:35 AM
Aug 2020

how to combat it is NOT the same fucking thing.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
88. you should read up on the psychology of advertising
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 11:31 AM
Aug 2020

getting people to talk about it is extremely important if you want someone to believe it. Believe anything.

I won't repeat the topic. But it's a topic that I've only heard here. Not from the other side.

The other side appreciates it when we spread rumors against our own.


Tanuki

(14,918 posts)
30. This is coming directly from Trump and his team
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:23 AM
Aug 2020

For example:

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/05/trump-son-baseless-attack-biden-preview-dirty-campaign.amp

"Donald Trump Jr.’s Baseless Attack Calling Biden a Pedophile Is a Preview of the Dirty Campaign Ahead

By DANIEL POLITI

MAY 17, 202010:21 AM


When he was asked about it by the New York Times, Trump Jr. borrowed from his father’s tactics and wrote on Twitter that he was only kidding, telling his 5 million followers that the three laughing emojis in the caption of his post “should indicate to anyone with a scintilla of common sense” that he was just “joking around.” But then in the same post he also suggested there was something to the meme, saying the former vice president was guilty of “unwanted touching” as he included several obviously misleading photos of Biden with children.

The president’s son didn’t stop there. He continued to make clear he was going to continue pushing the baseless attack as he retweeted several supporters who agreed with his allegation. He then proceeded to tweet a video compilation of Biden showing affection to children, largely at swearing-in ceremonies at the Capitol. “All the touching & hair sniffing is TOTALLY APPROPRIATE & 100% NORMAL,” he wrote in the tweet he has now pinned to his profile. “Everyone does it!” Trump Jr. then doubled down on a subsequent tweet that included another video compilation: “Does anyone really think this is normal behavior from Joe!???”

....


For now at least, Biden appears set against falling into these clear provocations from the Trump camp, characterizing them as efforts to distract Americans as the coronavirus crisis continues to engulf the nation. Some of Biden’s allies are convinced that Trump’s strategy will end up backfiring considering the soaring unemployment rate and rising COVID-19 death toll. “The public is really focused on what matters in this election. And they’re not being dragged into side issues and they are not being dragged into manufactured issues,” Mike Donilon, the senior strategist for Biden’s campaign, tells the Washington Post. “It’s just too serious. So I think Trump is risking a real problem in trying to push the conversation to a place where the country knows that’s not what’s at stake.".. (more)



Response to roamer65 (Reply #31)

magicarpet

(14,154 posts)
34. Breathless/Breaking reporting on Fux Nuz,..
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:25 AM
Aug 2020

The secret Epstein Papers and videos prove Biden prefers little girls. More after this commercial break.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
35. To q rational person
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:26 AM
Aug 2020

It speaks volumes that they have no plan to improve or fix anything, so they have to lie about opponents.

LuckyCharms

(17,444 posts)
36. Baltmike, thank you for the post.
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:29 AM
Aug 2020

I have noticed the same thing at several online sites, without specific ties to Biden, but this stuff is slowing starting to percolate. At this point, this stuff about child sex rings is popping up en masse, presumably by Russian Bots, and for no apparent reason.

I'm sorry to see that you are being criticized for posting this.

It is always better to have a heads-up on the enemy's plans than to be blindsided by them. When you know what bullshit you will be dealing with, you can better formulate a defense well before the time it becomes a problem.




Baltimike

(4,146 posts)
50. Thank you for this LuckyCharms, I really appreciate it
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:38 AM
Aug 2020

I have a pretty thick skin, but I can see this ugly thing rearing its ugly head and the sooner we are ready for that battle, the better.

Someone on this thread said it succinctly...there is no bottom. That doesn't mean we don't have to get ready for it

Kid Berwyn

(14,908 posts)
39. "I wish her well."
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:31 AM
Aug 2020


All the Ways President Donald Trump is Connected to Ghislaine Maxwell

The accused Jeffrey Epstein accomplice was a regular in the same New York–Palm Beach social circuit.


https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/money-and-power/a33393615/president-donald-trump-ghislaine-maxwell-relationship/

Sedona

(3,769 posts)
41. My RWNJ sister posted in FB Biden owns the pedo island next to Epstein 's
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:32 AM
Aug 2020

did I mention she's a Qanon RWNJ, evangelical, anti vaxxer, anti masker plandemic pusher?

How am I even related to such ignorance?

Depressing

ellie

(6,929 posts)
46. The one that is
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:34 AM
Aug 2020

run out of the basement of the pizza shop that has no basement? That one? Or is this the one that is run from Mars? It's hard to keep the delusions straight.

Baltimike

(4,146 posts)
67. They're brining back Piza gate as though the basement was "hidden"
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:50 AM
Aug 2020

always saying that Epstein didn't kill himself and that pedophilia is the most important thing facing our country, not the pandemic. Many memes saying the same thing

I post the pic of Putin kissing that kid's stomach and it usually works, but there is too much coordination here. They're going to try something

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
48. They're going to try many things.
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:35 AM
Aug 2020

Not all of them need to be brought here breathlessly, I think.

There is no link there. It's bullshit.

magicarpet

(14,154 posts)
60. Opposition Research,... projecting the next line of fire,...
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:44 AM
Aug 2020

... from your adversaries before they launch their next missile aimed to land in your lap.

Damage control,... anticipating and formulating a response before your enemies missiles depart the launch silo and are heading your way.

A risk mitigation strategy,

by definition, is taking steps to reduce the risk (the severity of the impact and/or probability of the occurrence). Losses can quickly accumulate if rates rapidly change and, at that point, reducing the risk becomes considerably more costly.

Baltimike

(4,146 posts)
65. damn...this.
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:48 AM
Aug 2020

I was just thinking of having some links handy, about their bullshit...a rapid response kind of thing.

I won't be shrinking to anyone's complaining about my post though...that's for sure.

MrsCoffee

(5,803 posts)
80. There is a group for that here.
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 11:19 AM
Aug 2020

These kinds of posts might be better suited there if you are interested in debunking this kind of stuff.

https://democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1022

underpants

(182,826 posts)
63. I've seen this stuff of Facebook for a few years. DU'ers It is import to anticipate.
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:46 AM
Aug 2020

Pics of Joe near kids were all,over the place about two years ago. It seemed to die down a bit but I’ve seen it starting to pop up against.

Baltimike

(4,146 posts)
68. Thank you. It seems COORDINATED lately, and you're exactly right
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:53 AM
Aug 2020

it happened a few years back, died down, and now it's back..but the many forms in which its back made me think to see if we can't put our heads together here.

I know it's bullshit just like I know the earth isn't flat. When you encounter a flat earther, bring up the horizon, and it usually stops it cold.

There might be a similar tonic to this, if we get TO each other, instead of AT one another.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
66. Of course they will. And our response should be "Bullshit!"
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:50 AM
Aug 2020

They lie and that should be our mantra from now until November. Everything they say is a lie, especially when it comes to Biden and Harris. They will say anything and everything to discredit them, no matter how outrageous it is. Ever hear of the "Boy Who Cried Wolf?" Sooner or later the people will see through their bullshit.

Never defend, never explain. Just dismiss their lies outright for the lies they are. Call them liars, call them desperate, but never go on the defensive, because at that point we will have lost.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
69. Smart post! Let's just spread that rumor with your ridiculous title...
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 11:03 AM
Aug 2020

Holy shit the fact this post is left up with your awful post title is really amazing to me. There is literally nothing good about your post. And you can reply back that you're trying to combat that but it falls on deaf ears when the post title is so in your face offensive and does nothing to combat this awful smear (no different than a newspaper headline).

You should be ashamed of yourself for pushing conspiracy bullshit under the guise of combating it. There is nothing in your sick, accusatory post title that does any of that - and the title of often the only thing people read.

Polly Hennessey

(6,798 posts)
83. Amazes me how many people on DU
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 11:22 AM
Aug 2020

always fall for the same schlock. Defending the right to continually repeat the gossip that we have heard for years.

Happy Hoosier

(7,308 posts)
72. Unless they have more than innuendo...
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 11:09 AM
Aug 2020

I think that ship has sailed.

Pizzagate pretty much exposed this all as fever-dream nonsense.

Zorro

(15,740 posts)
74. I heard it from someone in red red Florida this spring
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 11:12 AM
Aug 2020

So it’s out there, as unbelievable as it sounds. So don’t be so naive to think it won’t grow among the RWNJ crowd the closer we get to the election. It would not surprise me to hear Trump mention it.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
77. They're already at it.
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 11:15 AM
Aug 2020

Just go on Farcebook, and read the comments sections in any Biden-related stories from PBS/NPR, ABC, NBC, CBS, CBC, BBC, Deutsche Welle, Rolling Stone... The trolls have already started with the innuendo, and even some outright accusations.

Baltimike

(4,146 posts)
96. so true, and DNC strategists have their hands full. The Russian/right wing trolls
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 12:05 PM
Aug 2020

(and let's face it, is there really a difference? I mean...really??) are the masses.

And so are we.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
89. It is
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 11:33 AM
Aug 2020

It's done under the mistaken belief that this is "strategizing" against it. As if we are DNC insiders.

We aren't insiders. We aren't building strategy.

In this thread we are just creating a rumor that doesn't exist, while hoping that the other side doesn't repeat what was written.

SoCalNative

(4,613 posts)
79. All we need to do
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 11:18 AM
Aug 2020

is make sure that photos of Drumpf with Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell are on a loop with the video of him wishing her well. Then make sure to add in the photos of the victims in that montage.

boguspotus

(286 posts)
81. When talking to Maga Morons on FB or in person - I say something like this. Usually shuts them up:
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 11:20 AM
Aug 2020

No one has been able to come back with a thing.

"Oh yea, Joe the pedophile - yep you've seen all the photo and video evidence, right? There's no doubt he's a pedo. So obviously with all this evidence available to anyone, those parents have obviously have had Biden charged with multiple child sex crimes right?? Oh wait......."

struggle4progress

(118,290 posts)
87. "If you elect Democrats, they will set up fake universities and scam charities!
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 11:24 AM
Aug 2020

They'll put little children in cages! A pandemic will sweep across the country! And they'll destroy the post office!"

Baltimike

(4,146 posts)
98. Oh, they've tried to ressurect that one
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 12:10 PM
Aug 2020

saying that basements can be sealed over...just *any* logic pretzel. An oft repeated lie becomes the truth if we let them get away with it

We can't let them

tinrobot

(10,903 posts)
109. If they're guilty of it, they will accuse the opposition of it.
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 12:32 PM
Aug 2020

I also suspect he'll blame Obama for the post office slowdown.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
113. As I said in another post today - Republicans project
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 12:50 PM
Aug 2020

They try to project their own sins on their opposition. When they talk about child sex trafficking, think of this:



Why is Dolt45 sympathetic to Maxwell while attacking Democratic women? Because he knows shat she did and is sympathetic to it.

So any time a Republican posts a lie like this I KNOW that they are the ones guilty of it.

Baltimike

(4,146 posts)
126. See how you felt the need to respond to something you didn't like or approve of?
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 01:22 PM
Aug 2020

***COUGH*** Well that's the EXACT same thing I want to do too....the differnce is I want to do it to them, and you want to do it to me.

But thanks for the kick though

KentuckyWoman

(6,685 posts)
166. Kicking again for you.
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 07:46 PM
Aug 2020

Your deep concern should get all the visibility it so richly deserves.

This cough tho.

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
133. I hope this is their october surprise
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 01:33 PM
Aug 2020

because nobody who isn't a Q nut will believe it, the media won't give it any coverage, and the average voter will never even see it.

If thats what they got then they got nothing.

Baltimike

(4,146 posts)
146. Thanks for your concern, but I am not your echo chamber
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 03:48 PM
Aug 2020

and do not need to acquiesce to you. Thanks for the kick though

Welcome to DU

 

AmyStrange

(7,989 posts)
143. It's a legitimate discussion, but...
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 03:04 PM
Aug 2020

-

if you don't like it, don't reply.

Why keep kicking something that you don't like?
===============

Baltimike

(4,146 posts)
155. lots of my fence sitters do. And I dk if they're QAnon, One America or Fox
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 04:23 PM
Aug 2020

But we ignored this shit at our peril in 2016. I am not repeating it. If you don;t like it, I understand...but won't be changing my mind.

Baltimike

(4,146 posts)
160. as I stated repeatedly, I know lots of fence sitters.
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 04:59 PM
Aug 2020

When they went low, we went high in 2016. When they go low in 2020, I am not backing down.

Thanks

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
162. What is the objective standard of "too many" and "rampant"?
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 05:14 PM
Aug 2020

Is there a standard against which this is being measured, or is it simply anecdotal and random postings convincing you to believe and unsupported and emotional premise?

Baltimike

(4,146 posts)
165. I appreciate your attempt to marginalize my post
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 06:08 PM
Aug 2020

but I said what I said. I am not alone in my observation, and I CERTAINLY shouldn't refrain from a g-d thing to appease what other people try to bully me into. Thanks for the kick.

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
167. This is not a path the GOP should take, but they probably will
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 08:33 PM
Aug 2020

Trump has connections to a known child sex ring run by Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell, and there are a hell of a lot of really creepy pictures of Trump with his own daughter in highly inappropriate poses.

Trying to link Joe Biden, who is an honorable man, to a child sex ring would lead to a serious investigation of Trump's probable pedophilia.

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