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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe 'excess deaths' tally in the U.S. is 204,691 in 7 months -- so C-19 deaths might be undercounted
The number of deaths in the United States through July 2020 is 8% to 12% higher than it would have been if the coronavirus pandemic had never happened. Thats at least 164,937 deaths above the number expected for the first seven months of the year 16,183 more than the number attributed to COVID-19 thus far for that period and it could be as high as 204,691.
Projecting from the past
To calculate excess deaths requires a comparison to what would have occurred if COVID-19 had not existed. - Marketwatch
ananda
(28,860 posts)No might about it.
Johnny2X2X
(19,066 posts)We had shutdowns that greatly reduced traffic deaths and other accidental deaths. So Covid-19 deaths could be well over the 200,000 mark.
Oh, and we'll be over the 170,000 mark today, but Orange leader will saw something like 150,000 if asked about it, as if the President is given weeks old data regularly.
Mariana
(14,857 posts)and flu pretty much vanished in early March, as soon as people started staying home and distancing. It wasn't enough to end the spread of Coronavirus, but it stopped the flu from going around.
WhiteTara
(29,715 posts)mass murders were curtailed also.
greymattermom
(5,754 posts)He was in lock down in an assisted living facility and no one checked on him for months, other than to bring him his food. By the time he got his diagnosis he was too weak to survive chemotherapy. He didn't die of COVID, but cases like his could contribute to excess death counts.
progressoid
(49,990 posts)malaise
(269,004 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,593 posts)Stallion
(6,474 posts)we've got hundreds of institutions tracking Covid but excess deaths tell a more complete story
Igel
(35,309 posts)They're different.
In late April a bunch of reports said that ER visits due to heart attacks and stroke were way, way down. No reason for the actual incidence to be lower; what was happening is that people weren't going to the ER because of COVIDophobia and dying at home.
lettucebe
(2,336 posts)It's the excess deaths stupid. Seriously, we have tens of thousands (moving into hundreds of thousands) of deaths not attributable to the usual causes. Call them whatever you want, but something is killing people. Wonder what on earth it might be?
ProfessorGAC
(65,042 posts)...mostly actuaries, say it's more than 30% greater than reported.
I don't disagree with the premise, but I think unanticipated deaths is more than 205,000.
Likely closer to 215,000.
joanbarnes
(1,722 posts)Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)A very sharp poster on Reddit has been emphasizing this for months, using this criteria and backed by a few related numbers
Nitram
(22,801 posts)a hospital for treatment because of fear of infection by the virus.