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Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 03:57 PM Aug 2020

"From golden showers in a sex club in Vegas, to tax fraud, to deals with corrupt Russian officials."



Natasha Bertrand @NatashaBertrand

👀"From golden showers in a sex club in Vegas, to tax fraud, to deals with corrupt officials from the former Soviet Union, to catch and kill conspiracies to silence Trump’s clandestine lovers, I wasn’t just a witness to the president’s rise—I was an active and eager participant."

Michael Cohen @MichaelCohen212

The day has finally arrived. I have waited a long time to share my truth. To read the foreword and pre-order my book DISLOYAL, visit https://disloyalthebook.com


3:52 PM · Aug 13, 2020


Boom!


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"From golden showers in a sex club in Vegas, to tax fraud, to deals with corrupt Russian officials." (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Aug 2020 OP
Whoaaaa. Off to check it out. nolabear Aug 2020 #1
I also firmly believe that Ivanka is a victim of sexual abuse... NurseJackie Aug 2020 #53
She's a cipher, that one. nolabear Aug 2020 #61
totally agree barbtries Aug 2020 #67
Zero doubt in my mind. dixiegrrrrl Aug 2020 #77
Whooooaaaaaahhhh indeed! Same word popped into my head. lagomorph777 Aug 2020 #88
I don't begrudge Cohen for writing his book. FM123 Aug 2020 #2
same here...hes taking a big chance taking on trump* samnsara Aug 2020 #22
Bolton makes Cohen look like a choir boy. jaxexpat Aug 2020 #34
Bolton makes Cohen look like a choir boy. jaxexpat Aug 2020 #35
The Famous Wellstone ruled Aug 2020 #3
This will be meaningless genxlib Aug 2020 #4
likely sourced/verifiable in some capacity RT Atlanta Aug 2020 #8
I'm expecting EXACTLY the same, g Leghorn21 Aug 2020 #9
yes hopefully he has some proof of this steve2470 Aug 2020 #21
It is going to mean something. He was a loyal henchman until Trump Blue_true Aug 2020 #40
Oh, I'm thinking that Cohen PatSeg Aug 2020 #41
Genx, we ALREADY know he taped and documented Hortensis Aug 2020 #45
I definitely want him to hurt Trump genxlib Aug 2020 #54
Come on, this is the liars' and fools' world, where the allegation Hortensis Aug 2020 #82
Interesting point zentrum Aug 2020 #64
IIRC Cohen had rented storage containers chock full of evidentiary materials Hekate Aug 2020 #70
it's with all of the Epstein evidence from his Manhattan mansion johnnyfins Aug 2020 #79
If he had any sense at all.... paleotn Aug 2020 #75
+1 progressoid Aug 2020 #89
BOOM, indeed!! Leghorn21 Aug 2020 #5
Wow! Wonder what that will do to his evangelical support. - n/t Jim__ Aug 2020 #6
Nothing. Hypocracy keeps them alive. Like oxygen for you and me. Squinch Aug 2020 #11
EXACTLY!! bluestarone Aug 2020 #58
Probably make them drool for more. n/t iscooterliberally Aug 2020 #33
If grabbin em by the P* didn't drive them away Ferrets are Cool Aug 2020 #38
The evangelicals that I know always seem to have side romances. Blue_true Aug 2020 #43
Of all the women I've dated, evangelical women quickly pushed for sex. WyattKansas Aug 2020 #84
Trump's alter ego is R. Kelly CatWoman Aug 2020 #7
I cannot wait for this book!!!!! Squinch Aug 2020 #10
Hopefully it drops in the next two months and get plenty of Press coverage. Blue_true Aug 2020 #44
Hmmm I clicked on place order, then get a bad website.... MLAA Aug 2020 #12
Yup! Site is getting slammed. MelissaB Aug 2020 #15
They should sell it on Amazon. Likely will once they see that they can't Blue_true Aug 2020 #47
Downloaded and read the Forward. He's an awful writer but man, what a potboiler! nolabear Aug 2020 #13
Yeah, he's not much of a writer - Mary Trump is much better - The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2020 #17
His book on top of Mary Trump's book should finish support for Trump from everyone Blue_true Aug 2020 #49
Should but won't. JHB Aug 2020 #65
Excellent point. I think it goes along with being a "human" (or any other animal/plant.) erronis Aug 2020 #72
You're right. "I pulled into the service station to get coffee, black no sugar." JDC Aug 2020 #39
"Late at night, in a city that knows how to keep its secrets, klook Aug 2020 #50
Lol JDC Aug 2020 #68
Yeah, he's read too much noir. But hey, if it works... nolabear Aug 2020 #74
He writes exactly as I imagined he would... Native Aug 2020 #71
LOL--true dat. nolabear Aug 2020 #76
Thanks for the refresher. When you're stupid enough to laud Kellyanne Conway... czarjak Aug 2020 #90
He is not an awful writer. He's visceral and arresting. mainer Aug 2020 #73
I'm a writer too. For what it is, it's consistent. But it's florid. nolabear Aug 2020 #78
Won't make a bit of difference to the racists. Ohiogal Aug 2020 #14
Here's a link to the preface: The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2020 #16
the pre order sites been crashing..seems like everyone wants it.. samnsara Aug 2020 #20
An absolute low life piece of shit. dalton99a Aug 2020 #18
Who, Cohen or Trump? The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2020 #25
Trump. dalton99a Aug 2020 #26
the sites crashed.. i want my signed copy :( samnsara Aug 2020 #19
I got as far as hitting the PayPal button now spinning again... MLAA Aug 2020 #23
Its only 40 (instead of 32.50) for a signed one. That is something morbid that's going on my shelf. NightWatcher Aug 2020 #30
"I'm certain that Trump knows he will face prison time if he leaves office" dalton99a Aug 2020 #24
This right here... Catherine Vincent Aug 2020 #60
Does that mean murder? I am asking for a whole lot of friends! (referring to last sentence) mfcorey1 Aug 2020 #66
Trump: "Known convicted liar Michael Cohen... Mr.Bill Aug 2020 #27
Michael, thank you for releasing this right before the election! colorado_ufo Aug 2020 #28
Well, now we know where his orange hue comes from. n/t Yavin4 Aug 2020 #29
Hoooooooly Moly!!! And I thought "Call me Ishmeal!" was a pretty gutsy first line of a book. marble falls Aug 2020 #31
Definitely want to read this. octoberlib Aug 2020 #32
wow FirstLight Aug 2020 #36
How are you and your daughter doing health wise? Give us an OP to update us, if not a burden. nt Blue_true Aug 2020 #55
You mean what happened in Vegas isn't staying in Vegas? bucolic_frolic Aug 2020 #37
I met a college student who was years earlier a stripper in Atlanta. Blue_true Aug 2020 #56
Yay but we already ready know all of this .... ace3csusm Aug 2020 #42
Well, we speculated about this. LisaL Aug 2020 #46
I agree. Cohen's vantage point is vastly different. Blue_true Aug 2020 #59
I'm convinced he knows a lot more than he has made public during statements and wiggs Aug 2020 #48
So Trump is into garbanzo beans on his face after all. NurseJackie Aug 2020 #51
Pee-Pee Book!!! Marie Marie Aug 2020 #52
I don't get the big deal with the gold showers Catherine Vincent Aug 2020 #57
People that have fetishes like that usually satisfy them with anyone that meet criteria Blue_true Aug 2020 #63
It lends credibility to the reports that the Kremlin had kompromat of the same kind Sparkly Aug 2020 #87
Hahahaha! peggysue2 Aug 2020 #62
As my husband and I both like to say - "SING, my Angel of Music!" calimary Aug 2020 #69
*mumbles* treason, treason, blah blah blah, kids in cages -- blah... What? Golden Showers!? tandem5 Aug 2020 #80
Golden showers! AmyStrange Aug 2020 #81
Libel is not against the law if... AmyStrange Aug 2020 #83
Can't Unsee Those Mental Images colsohlibgal Aug 2020 #85
I just bought a signed copy of Cohen's book DonaldsRump Aug 2020 #86
Rare for me to order a "tell-all" but I just did. dameatball Aug 2020 #91

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
53. I also firmly believe that Ivanka is a victim of sexual abuse...
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 05:41 PM
Aug 2020

... I get the feeling that (event though she's an adult) she's been brainwashed to believe it's okay and "their special secret". Which also explains the creepy photos and "knowing" winks and feigned-embarrassment, and the kisses, and inappropriate sexual touching.

nolabear

(41,984 posts)
61. She's a cipher, that one.
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 05:53 PM
Aug 2020

I’m not as sure of sexual abuse per se but I do think she’s in the exact position Spanky was as a kid, having to be The Anointed One, but with sexuality all mixed up in there for sure. She married as close to a Eunuch as she could get, she almost literally has no character that doesn’t reflect her father.

Weren’t she and a Chelsea Clinton friends at one time? Am I imagining that? Maybe there’s a person in there somewhere but it’s hard to find.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
77. Zero doubt in my mind.
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 07:02 PM
Aug 2020


All one has to do is see the pics of her with trump, as a young girl.
Sadly, the more we know of Trump's sexual issues, of those more than a dozen out of court settlements with families of boys and girls he molested... there is a possibility she was made to be with other men re:Epstein history.

Unfortunately, we know these days that young victims of incest often grow up emotionally damaged.

that's something her future defense attorney may want to be aware of.

FM123

(10,053 posts)
2. I don't begrudge Cohen for writing his book.
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 04:02 PM
Aug 2020

He showed up testified and spilled the tea before he wrote his book. John Bolton - not so much. He could have shared info in trump but Bolton held out so he could make a few bucks on his book. I'm ok with Cohen getting published.

genxlib

(5,528 posts)
4. This will be meaningless
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 04:03 PM
Aug 2020

Unless he has tapes, videos, receipts, pictures, etc.

Show the proof or shut up. Otherwise, it is just an opportunity for you to profit off of enabling a scumbag.

RT Atlanta

(2,517 posts)
8. likely sourced/verifiable in some capacity
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 04:05 PM
Aug 2020

doubt the publisher would take on the litigation risk without a means to verify the assertions from Mr. Cohen.

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
9. I'm expecting EXACTLY the same, g
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 04:05 PM
Aug 2020

Canceled checks, memos, emails, mail mails - RECEIPTS, else I’ll be

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
21. yes hopefully he has some proof of this
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 04:21 PM
Aug 2020

Trump can bat this away too easily as a disgruntled former employee. I believe it, but hell I'm biased.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
40. It is going to mean something. He was a loyal henchman until Trump
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 05:22 PM
Aug 2020

stabbed him in the back. I read that Cohen DID maintain secret recordings of all his interactions. Even if he didn’t record Trump, he would have recorded the nasty stuff that he did on Trump’s behalf.

Even without recordings, the allegations appear to confirm some of the stuff about Trump, the love of golden showers, the NDAs and payoffs to shut women that he had extra-marital sex with up, etc.

PatSeg

(47,482 posts)
41. Oh, I'm thinking that Cohen
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 05:23 PM
Aug 2020

has a lot of documentation to back up his allegations. It appears that over the years, he was a saver and he was known to even record conversations with his boss. That is probably why Trump tried to get him back in prison and solitary confinement.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
45. Genx, we ALREADY know he taped and documented
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 05:29 PM
Aug 2020

at least many of Trump's crimes he was involved in. Much of it's already in the hands of federal prosecutors.

But this book is mainly to hurt him with swing voters, the wobbly once-loyal Republicans.

Hopefully you don't really want him to shut up and not hurt Trump, because the book's out.

genxlib

(5,528 posts)
54. I definitely want him to hurt Trump
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 05:45 PM
Aug 2020

I just don't think he will unless he comes with some kind of proof.

We have seen way too many books with very damaging information get ignored. It would be naive of me to believe this will change unless there is something that can't be ignored to support it.

I wouldn't doubt that he had proof at some time. But I would wonder if he has access to it all since it was taken from him by the Feds. Don't know how that works and whether he would get it back after the trial.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
82. Come on, this is the liars' and fools' world, where the allegation
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 07:27 PM
Aug 2020

is the crime.

Remember that evil bitch Hillary and her sinister plots to give everyone universal healthcare coverage and very low-cost electricity courtesy of solar cells on all our roofs? If it weren't for the Secret Service, she'd have been torn to pieces by one of many angry mobs, the only question if the murderers were LW or RW.

When things go well, the allegations are actually true and, yes, can be proven in court. But don't forget that many already have been. And many on hole hopefully will be once Trump is once again a private citizen.

Hekate

(90,708 posts)
70. IIRC Cohen had rented storage containers chock full of evidentiary materials
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 06:33 PM
Aug 2020

Would be interesting to know what became of it all after he turned it over

paleotn

(17,920 posts)
75. If he had any sense at all....
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 07:00 PM
Aug 2020

he's got just that. Common practice for mob lawyers and their contemporaries. Files and things in a very, very safe place. One even the feds don't know about. It's useful for all kinds of reason. Staying alive being one. I'm sure he knows the ins and outs of libel too, being a Trump lawyer. I figure he's got his bases covered, but time will tell.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
43. The evangelicals that I know always seem to have side romances.
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 05:27 PM
Aug 2020

They are typically the most disgusting people that I have to deal with. The greed, lust, and treachery, better not turn your back on them. Trump is their type of person.

WyattKansas

(1,648 posts)
84. Of all the women I've dated, evangelical women quickly pushed for sex.
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 07:51 PM
Aug 2020

When I would say that I thought that they were suppose to be more proper, they explained that sex was everywhere in the bible, so it didn't matter. Their reputation never seemed to matter and they thought loyalty was only good for a fake image of themselves.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
44. Hopefully it drops in the next two months and get plenty of Press coverage.
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 05:29 PM
Aug 2020

No wonder Barr tried to send him back to prison.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
47. They should sell it on Amazon. Likely will once they see that they can't
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 05:31 PM
Aug 2020

keep up with the traffic.

nolabear

(41,984 posts)
13. Downloaded and read the Forward. He's an awful writer but man, what a potboiler!
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 04:15 PM
Aug 2020

I’m going to really enjoy the commentary about this. I don’t know if I’ll read it, but prurient interest could take over!

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,719 posts)
17. Yeah, he's not much of a writer - Mary Trump is much better -
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 04:18 PM
Aug 2020

but the preface, although a bit overheated, was fascinating, and I expect the book itself will be very interesting reading.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
49. His book on top of Mary Trump's book should finish support for Trump from everyone
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 05:33 PM
Aug 2020

but evangelicals (the ultimate hypocrits).

JHB

(37,160 posts)
65. Should but won't.
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 06:01 PM
Aug 2020

The evangelicals aren't the only hypocrites in the country, They don't have a monopoly on self-righteously believing their own advertising.

erronis

(15,286 posts)
72. Excellent point. I think it goes along with being a "human" (or any other animal/plant.)
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 06:36 PM
Aug 2020

Self preservation, greed, lust, power, survival, dominance,

JDC

(10,128 posts)
39. You're right. "I pulled into the service station to get coffee, black no sugar."
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 05:17 PM
Aug 2020

Reminds me of campy, old time radio dialogue. I read the whole forward though and am gonna read the book anyhow.

klook

(12,155 posts)
50. "Late at night, in a city that knows how to keep its secrets,
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 05:34 PM
Aug 2020

a solitary window glows bright in the Acme Building."



This should be a nice counter-narrative to the Nobel Peace Prize horseshit -- I hope.

nolabear

(41,984 posts)
74. Yeah, he's read too much noir. But hey, if it works...
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 07:00 PM
Aug 2020

He could do it in haiku with a hip-hop subtext and I’d support it if it worked.

Native

(5,942 posts)
71. He writes exactly as I imagined he would...
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 06:35 PM
Aug 2020

If he was any better of a writer, I think it would have taken away from the book. I mean, seriously, this guy?

czarjak

(11,278 posts)
90. Thanks for the refresher. When you're stupid enough to laud Kellyanne Conway...
Fri Aug 14, 2020, 04:09 PM
Aug 2020

You’re stupid enough. Period.

nolabear

(41,984 posts)
78. I'm a writer too. For what it is, it's consistent. But it's florid.
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 07:08 PM
Aug 2020

Sam Spade works to an extent and if it was fiction I could see it as character structure but given it’s memoir his self-characterization made me snort, then laugh, then think he’s lying, then think he’s imitating noir, then keep reading. From the keep reading perspective there’s something there but I stick by my criticism.

Damn if I don’t want to read it though.

Ohiogal

(32,002 posts)
14. Won't make a bit of difference to the racists.
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 04:16 PM
Aug 2020

They won’t care about any of it as long as he keeps on screwing the people they hate.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,719 posts)
16. Here's a link to the preface:
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 04:17 PM
Aug 2020
https://disloyalthebook.com/download-the-disloyal-foreword-written-by-michael-cohen/

I really want to read the book. It's not on Amazon yet but I'll pounce when it is. Maybe he's not announcing a release date so Trump won't try to delay publication.

dalton99a

(81,513 posts)
24. "I'm certain that Trump knows he will face prison time if he leaves office"
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 04:23 PM
Aug 2020
Now, sitting alone in an upstate New York prison, wearing my green government-issued uniform, I’ve begun writing this story longhand on a yellow legal pad. I often wrote before dawn so not to be disturbed in my thoughts when my fellow inmates awoke. I had to report to the sewage treatment plant where some of us worked for a wage of $8 a month. As the months passed by and I thought about the man I knew so well, I became even more convinced that Trump will never leave office peacefully. The types of scandals that have surfaced in recent months will only continue to emerge with greater and greater levels of treachery and deceit. If Trump wins another four years, these scandals will prove to only be the tip of the iceberg. I’m certain that Trump knows he will face prison time if he leaves office, the inevitable cold Karma to the notorious chants of “Lock Her Up!” But that is the Trump I know in a nutshell. He projects his own sins and crimes onto others, partly to distract and confuse but mostly because he thinks everyone is as corrupt and shameless and ruthless as he is; a poisonous mindset I know all too well. Whoever follows Trump into the White House, if the President doesn’t manage to make himself the leader for life, as he has started to joke about—and Trump never actually jokes- will discover a tangle of frauds and scams and lawlessness. Trump and his minions will do anything to cover up that reality, and I mean anything.

Catherine Vincent

(34,490 posts)
60. This right here...
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 05:53 PM
Aug 2020

Is what we've always thought:

"He projects his own sins and crimes onto others, partly to distract ..."

Mr.Bill

(24,300 posts)
27. Trump: "Known convicted liar Michael Cohen...
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 04:27 PM
Aug 2020

bla, bla, bla, bla…" Exactly what they all said when he testified before Congress. And unfortunately, that was all we heard. I hope this goes differently. It will when we take over the White House and Senate.

colorado_ufo

(5,734 posts)
28. Michael, thank you for releasing this right before the election!
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 04:31 PM
Aug 2020

Revenge is truly a dish best served cold - especially when it brings some cold case along with it!

Hope your book is successful. You lived your life as a major league jerk, but you seem sincerely intent on some degree of redemption, and I support that.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
32. Definitely want to read this.
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 04:40 PM
Aug 2020
Both sides were wrong. I knew that the reality was much more complicated and dangerous. Trump had colluded with the Russians, but not in the sophisticated ways imagined by his detractors. I also knew that the Mueller investigation was not a witch-hunt. Trump had cheated in the election, with Russian connivance, as you will discover in these pages, because doing anything—and I mean anything—to “win” has always been his business model and way of life. Trump had also continued to pursue a major real estate deal in Moscow during the campaign. He attempted to insinuate himself into the world of President Vladimir Putin and his coterie of corrupt billionaire oligarchs. I know because I personally ran that deal and kept Trump and his children closely informed of all updates, even as the candidate blatantly lied to the American people saying, “there’s no Russian collusion, I have no dealings with Russia…there’s no Russia


So, please permit me to reintroduce myself in these pages. The one thing I can say with absolute certainty is that whatever you may have heard or thought about me, you don’t know me or my story or the Donald Trump that I know. For more than a decade, I was Trump’s first call every morning and his last call every night. I was in and out of Trump’s office on the 26th floor of the Trump Tower as many as fifty times a day, tending to his every demand. Our cell phones had the same address books, our contacts so entwined, overlapping and intimate that part of my job was to deal with the endless queries and requests, however large or small, from Trump’s countless rich and famous acquaintances. I called any and all of the people he spoke to, most often on his behalf as his attorney and emissary, and everyone knew that when I spoke to them, it was as good as if they were talking directly to Trump.

Apart from his wife and children, I knew Trump better than anyone else did. In some ways, I knew him better than even his family did because I bore witness to the real man, in strip clubs, shady business meetings, and in the unguarded moments when he revealed who he really was: a cheat, a liar, a fraud, a bully, a racist, a predator, a con man.

There are reasons why there has never been an intimate portrait of Donald Trump, the man. In part, it’s because he has a million acquaintances, pals and hangers on, but no real friends. He has no one he trusts to keep his secrets. For ten years, he certainly had me, and I was always there for him, and look what happened to me. I urge you to really consider that fact: Trump has no true friends. He has lived his entire life avoiding and evading taking responsibility for his actions. He crushed or cheated all who stood in his way, but I know where the skeletons are buried because I was the one who buried them. I was the one who most encouraged him to run for president in 2011, and then again in 2015, carefully orchestrating the famous trip down the escalator in Trump Tower for him to announce his candidacy. When Trump wanted to reach Russian President Vladimir Putin, via a secret back channel, I was tasked with making the connection in my Keystone Kop fashion. I stiffed contractors on his behalf, ripped off his business partners, lied to his wife Melania to hide his sexual infidelities, and bullied and screamed at anyone who threatened Trump’s path to power. From golden showers in a sex club in Vegas, to tax fraud, to deals with corrupt officials from the former Soviet Union, to catch and kill conspiracies to silence Trump’s clandestine lovers, I wasn’t just a witness to the president’s rise—I was an active and eager participant.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
56. I met a college student who was years earlier a stripper in Atlanta.
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 05:49 PM
Aug 2020

She claimed that Trump was a regular at the club she worked at as an underage stripper. I thought that she was lying and dismissed the claim. I hope that Cohen’s book touch on stuff like what that woman claimed.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
59. I agree. Cohen's vantage point is vastly different.
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 05:52 PM
Aug 2020

He will be able to confirm some of the charges that women were brave enough to make against Trump, because Cohen was the one that threatened those women on Trump’s behalf.

wiggs

(7,814 posts)
48. I'm convinced he knows a lot more than he has made public during statements and
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 05:33 PM
Aug 2020

hearing. Up until now, I've thought that he was still trying to take a bullet for Trump by describing bad behavior that we already knew about and covering up the rest. I still think that, unless the book proves otherwise

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
63. People that have fetishes like that usually satisfy them with anyone that meet criteria
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 05:56 PM
Aug 2020

in their minds. It could be young women that look a certain way or teen girls.

I hope that the book go into the vapid details of Trump’s sordid life.

Sparkly

(24,149 posts)
87. It lends credibility to the reports that the Kremlin had kompromat of the same kind
Fri Aug 14, 2020, 11:52 AM
Aug 2020

Among the information Steele obtained was a report that Trump was secretly video recorded in a Moscow hotel room engaging in, or observing, "golden showers." It's known that he was in Moscow a number of times for his pageants, real estate etc., and according to Malcolm Nance this is what Russia does -- they spy on guests and record them.

peggysue2

(10,829 posts)
62. Hahahaha!
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 05:53 PM
Aug 2020

This should be good. All the skeletons to come tumbling out. Those not buried in Queens, that is.

Golden showers? Do tell. Wasn't the earlier excuse/refutation that Trump was a germaphobe and would never get involved with the nasty?

Michael Cohen better be hunkered down. The big BOOMs are a-coming.

calimary

(81,298 posts)
69. As my husband and I both like to say - "SING, my Angel of Music!"
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 06:30 PM
Aug 2020

With apologies to Andrew Lloyd Webber's "Phantom of the Opera."

 

AmyStrange

(7,989 posts)
81. Golden showers!
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 07:22 PM
Aug 2020

-

Damn, that explains why his hair's yellow and also why his head looks like...

Naw, I'm not going there!
=========

 

AmyStrange

(7,989 posts)
83. Libel is not against the law if...
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 07:51 PM
Aug 2020

-

it's true, and there wasn't any malice, and malice doesn't matter when you're talking about a politician. They lose their right to privacy when they become public figures, and that's why parodies are allowed (i.e. SNL).

Trump could still sue Cohen for libel (or maybe not. I'm still a little fuzzy on this aspect of the law), and of course, evidence would help, but Cohen could still get on the stand and tell his story, and Trump would still have to prove he was lying to win.

Would be an interesting court case to watch.
==========

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
85. Can't Unsee Those Mental Images
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 08:50 PM
Aug 2020

None of us shocks me because he was involved with Epstein and that Maxwell gal.

DonaldsRump

(7,715 posts)
86. I just bought a signed copy of Cohen's book
Fri Aug 14, 2020, 06:23 AM
Aug 2020

Worst case, after I read it, I'll do the Trumpian thing and give it to a RWNJ for Christmas!

Maybe I'm a bad judge of character, but Michael Cohen today seems like a changed person. He has no reason to lie anymore.

I would be very surprised if Trump still doesn't fight the release of the book on attorney/client privilege grounds.

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