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Natasha Bertrand @NatashaBertrand
👀"From golden showers in a sex club in Vegas, to tax fraud, to deals with corrupt officials from the former Soviet Union, to catch and kill conspiracies to silence Trumps clandestine lovers, I wasnt just a witness to the presidents riseI was an active and eager participant."
Michael Cohen @MichaelCohen212
The day has finally arrived. I have waited a long time to share my truth. To read the foreword and pre-order my book DISLOYAL, visit https://disloyalthebook.com
3:52 PM · Aug 13, 2020
Boom!
nolabear
(41,984 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... I get the feeling that (event though she's an adult) she's been brainwashed to believe it's okay and "their special secret". Which also explains the creepy photos and "knowing" winks and feigned-embarrassment, and the kisses, and inappropriate sexual touching.
nolabear
(41,984 posts)Im not as sure of sexual abuse per se but I do think shes in the exact position Spanky was as a kid, having to be The Anointed One, but with sexuality all mixed up in there for sure. She married as close to a Eunuch as she could get, she almost literally has no character that doesnt reflect her father.
Werent she and a Chelsea Clinton friends at one time? Am I imagining that? Maybe theres a person in there somewhere but its hard to find.
barbtries
(28,798 posts)he was probably on her by the time she was 13 if not sooner. the pervert.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)All one has to do is see the pics of her with trump, as a young girl.
Sadly, the more we know of Trump's sexual issues, of those more than a dozen out of court settlements with families of boys and girls he molested... there is a possibility she was made to be with other men re:Epstein history.
Unfortunately, we know these days that young victims of incest often grow up emotionally damaged.
that's something her future defense attorney may want to be aware of.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)FM123
(10,053 posts)He showed up testified and spilled the tea before he wrote his book. John Bolton - not so much. He could have shared info in trump but Bolton held out so he could make a few bucks on his book. I'm ok with Cohen getting published.
samnsara
(17,622 posts)jaxexpat
(6,831 posts)jaxexpat
(6,831 posts)Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Gentleman's clubs in old down town Vegas.
genxlib
(5,528 posts)Unless he has tapes, videos, receipts, pictures, etc.
Show the proof or shut up. Otherwise, it is just an opportunity for you to profit off of enabling a scumbag.
RT Atlanta
(2,517 posts)doubt the publisher would take on the litigation risk without a means to verify the assertions from Mr. Cohen.
Leghorn21
(13,524 posts)Canceled checks, memos, emails, mail mails - RECEIPTS, else Ill be
steve2470
(37,457 posts)Trump can bat this away too easily as a disgruntled former employee. I believe it, but hell I'm biased.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)stabbed him in the back. I read that Cohen DID maintain secret recordings of all his interactions. Even if he didnt record Trump, he would have recorded the nasty stuff that he did on Trumps behalf.
Even without recordings, the allegations appear to confirm some of the stuff about Trump, the love of golden showers, the NDAs and payoffs to shut women that he had extra-marital sex with up, etc.
PatSeg
(47,482 posts)has a lot of documentation to back up his allegations. It appears that over the years, he was a saver and he was known to even record conversations with his boss. That is probably why Trump tried to get him back in prison and solitary confinement.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)at least many of Trump's crimes he was involved in. Much of it's already in the hands of federal prosecutors.
But this book is mainly to hurt him with swing voters, the wobbly once-loyal Republicans.
Hopefully you don't really want him to shut up and not hurt Trump, because the book's out.
genxlib
(5,528 posts)I just don't think he will unless he comes with some kind of proof.
We have seen way too many books with very damaging information get ignored. It would be naive of me to believe this will change unless there is something that can't be ignored to support it.
I wouldn't doubt that he had proof at some time. But I would wonder if he has access to it all since it was taken from him by the Feds. Don't know how that works and whether he would get it back after the trial.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)is the crime.
Remember that evil bitch Hillary and her sinister plots to give everyone universal healthcare coverage and very low-cost electricity courtesy of solar cells on all our roofs? If it weren't for the Secret Service, she'd have been torn to pieces by one of many angry mobs, the only question if the murderers were LW or RW.
When things go well, the allegations are actually true and, yes, can be proven in court. But don't forget that many already have been. And many on hole hopefully will be once Trump is once again a private citizen.
zentrum
(9,865 posts)Hekate
(90,708 posts)Would be interesting to know what became of it all after he turned it over
johnnyfins
(823 posts)paleotn
(17,920 posts)he's got just that. Common practice for mob lawyers and their contemporaries. Files and things in a very, very safe place. One even the feds don't know about. It's useful for all kinds of reason. Staying alive being one. I'm sure he knows the ins and outs of libel too, being a Trump lawyer. I figure he's got his bases covered, but time will tell.
Leghorn21
(13,524 posts)OH HOLY HELL, YALL!!
Mikies goin nukular!!
HOT DAMN
Jim__
(14,077 posts)Squinch
(50,950 posts)bluestarone
(16,959 posts)I can just hear THEM now. HE ask God to forgive him. AND GOD DID! I say BULLSHIT!!
iscooterliberally
(2,860 posts)Ferrets are Cool
(21,106 posts)NOTHING WILL They are all fucking hypocrites.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)They are typically the most disgusting people that I have to deal with. The greed, lust, and treachery, better not turn your back on them. Trump is their type of person.
WyattKansas
(1,648 posts)When I would say that I thought that they were suppose to be more proper, they explained that sex was everywhere in the bible, so it didn't matter. Their reputation never seemed to matter and they thought loyalty was only good for a fake image of themselves.
CatWoman
(79,302 posts)Who knew?
Squinch
(50,950 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)No wonder Barr tried to send him back to prison.
MLAA
(17,296 posts)Hope he is overwhelmed with orders!
MelissaB
(16,420 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)keep up with the traffic.
nolabear
(41,984 posts)Im going to really enjoy the commentary about this. I dont know if Ill read it, but prurient interest could take over!
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,719 posts)but the preface, although a bit overheated, was fascinating, and I expect the book itself will be very interesting reading.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)but evangelicals (the ultimate hypocrits).
JHB
(37,160 posts)The evangelicals aren't the only hypocrites in the country, They don't have a monopoly on self-righteously believing their own advertising.
erronis
(15,286 posts)Self preservation, greed, lust, power, survival, dominance,
JDC
(10,128 posts)Reminds me of campy, old time radio dialogue. I read the whole forward though and am gonna read the book anyhow.
klook
(12,155 posts)a solitary window glows bright in the Acme Building."
This should be a nice counter-narrative to the Nobel Peace Prize horseshit -- I hope.
nolabear
(41,984 posts)He could do it in haiku with a hip-hop subtext and Id support it if it worked.
Native
(5,942 posts)If he was any better of a writer, I think it would have taken away from the book. I mean, seriously, this guy?
nolabear
(41,984 posts)czarjak
(11,278 posts)Youre stupid enough. Period.
mainer
(12,022 posts)And I make my living as a writer.
nolabear
(41,984 posts)Sam Spade works to an extent and if it was fiction I could see it as character structure but given its memoir his self-characterization made me snort, then laugh, then think hes lying, then think hes imitating noir, then keep reading. From the keep reading perspective theres something there but I stick by my criticism.
Damn if I dont want to read it though.
Ohiogal
(32,002 posts)They wont care about any of it as long as he keeps on screwing the people they hate.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,719 posts)I really want to read the book. It's not on Amazon yet but I'll pounce when it is. Maybe he's not announcing a release date so Trump won't try to delay publication.
samnsara
(17,622 posts)dalton99a
(81,513 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,719 posts)Cohen might be exactly that, but it doesn't mean he's lying.
dalton99a
(81,513 posts)samnsara
(17,622 posts)MLAA
(17,296 posts)NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)dalton99a
(81,513 posts)Catherine Vincent
(34,490 posts)Is what we've always thought:
"He projects his own sins and crimes onto others, partly to distract ..."
mfcorey1
(11,001 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,300 posts)bla, bla, bla, bla " Exactly what they all said when he testified before Congress. And unfortunately, that was all we heard. I hope this goes differently. It will when we take over the White House and Senate.
colorado_ufo
(5,734 posts)Revenge is truly a dish best served cold - especially when it brings some cold case along with it!
Hope your book is successful. You lived your life as a major league jerk, but you seem sincerely intent on some degree of redemption, and I support that.
Yavin4
(35,441 posts)marble falls
(57,097 posts)octoberlib
(14,971 posts)So, please permit me to reintroduce myself in these pages. The one thing I can say with absolute certainty is that whatever you may have heard or thought about me, you dont know me or my story or the Donald Trump that I know. For more than a decade, I was Trumps first call every morning and his last call every night. I was in and out of Trumps office on the 26th floor of the Trump Tower as many as fifty times a day, tending to his every demand. Our cell phones had the same address books, our contacts so entwined, overlapping and intimate that part of my job was to deal with the endless queries and requests, however large or small, from Trumps countless rich and famous acquaintances. I called any and all of the people he spoke to, most often on his behalf as his attorney and emissary, and everyone knew that when I spoke to them, it was as good as if they were talking directly to Trump.
Apart from his wife and children, I knew Trump better than anyone else did. In some ways, I knew him better than even his family did because I bore witness to the real man, in strip clubs, shady business meetings, and in the unguarded moments when he revealed who he really was: a cheat, a liar, a fraud, a bully, a racist, a predator, a con man.
There are reasons why there has never been an intimate portrait of Donald Trump, the man. In part, its because he has a million acquaintances, pals and hangers on, but no real friends. He has no one he trusts to keep his secrets. For ten years, he certainly had me, and I was always there for him, and look what happened to me. I urge you to really consider that fact: Trump has no true friends. He has lived his entire life avoiding and evading taking responsibility for his actions. He crushed or cheated all who stood in his way, but I know where the skeletons are buried because I was the one who buried them. I was the one who most encouraged him to run for president in 2011, and then again in 2015, carefully orchestrating the famous trip down the escalator in Trump Tower for him to announce his candidacy. When Trump wanted to reach Russian President Vladimir Putin, via a secret back channel, I was tasked with making the connection in my Keystone Kop fashion. I stiffed contractors on his behalf, ripped off his business partners, lied to his wife Melania to hide his sexual infidelities, and bullied and screamed at anyone who threatened Trumps path to power. From golden showers in a sex club in Vegas, to tax fraud, to deals with corrupt officials from the former Soviet Union, to catch and kill conspiracies to silence Trumps clandestine lovers, I wasnt just a witness to the presidents riseI was an active and eager participant.
FirstLight
(13,360 posts)hope he is guarded well...he could be in danger...
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,173 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)She claimed that Trump was a regular at the club she worked at as an underage stripper. I thought that she was lying and dismissed the claim. I hope that Cohens book touch on stuff like what that woman claimed.
ace3csusm
(969 posts)LisaL
(44,973 posts)But now its coming straight out of the horses mouth.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)He will be able to confirm some of the charges that women were brave enough to make against Trump, because Cohen was the one that threatened those women on Trumps behalf.
wiggs
(7,814 posts)hearing. Up until now, I've thought that he was still trying to take a bullet for Trump by describing bad behavior that we already knew about and covering up the rest. I still think that, unless the book proves otherwise
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Marie Marie
(9,999 posts)We never saw the pee-pee tapes but this might do.
Catherine Vincent
(34,490 posts)Unless maybe it was with underaged girls.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)in their minds. It could be young women that look a certain way or teen girls.
I hope that the book go into the vapid details of Trumps sordid life.
Sparkly
(24,149 posts)Among the information Steele obtained was a report that Trump was secretly video recorded in a Moscow hotel room engaging in, or observing, "golden showers." It's known that he was in Moscow a number of times for his pageants, real estate etc., and according to Malcolm Nance this is what Russia does -- they spy on guests and record them.
peggysue2
(10,829 posts)This should be good. All the skeletons to come tumbling out. Those not buried in Queens, that is.
Golden showers? Do tell. Wasn't the earlier excuse/refutation that Trump was a germaphobe and would never get involved with the nasty?
Michael Cohen better be hunkered down. The big BOOMs are a-coming.
calimary
(81,298 posts)With apologies to Andrew Lloyd Webber's "Phantom of the Opera."
tandem5
(2,072 posts)AmyStrange
(7,989 posts)-
Damn, that explains why his hair's yellow and also why his head looks like...
Naw, I'm not going there!
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AmyStrange
(7,989 posts)-
it's true, and there wasn't any malice, and malice doesn't matter when you're talking about a politician. They lose their right to privacy when they become public figures, and that's why parodies are allowed (i.e. SNL).
Trump could still sue Cohen for libel (or maybe not. I'm still a little fuzzy on this aspect of the law), and of course, evidence would help, but Cohen could still get on the stand and tell his story, and Trump would still have to prove he was lying to win.
Would be an interesting court case to watch.
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colsohlibgal
(5,275 posts)None of us shocks me because he was involved with Epstein and that Maxwell gal.
DonaldsRump
(7,715 posts)Worst case, after I read it, I'll do the Trumpian thing and give it to a RWNJ for Christmas!
Maybe I'm a bad judge of character, but Michael Cohen today seems like a changed person. He has no reason to lie anymore.
I would be very surprised if Trump still doesn't fight the release of the book on attorney/client privilege grounds.