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Federal judge in Pennsylvania orders Trump campaign & GOP to produce any evidence of vote-by-mail fr
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Donald J. Drumpf
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Me and my big mouth.
Jim Sciutto
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New: Federal judge in Pennsylvania orders Trump campaign & GOP to produce any evidence of vote-by-mail fraud in the state by Friday. The order, in a high-profile case about vote-by-mail, forces campaign to back up Trump’s false claims about massive fraud in postal voting.
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there's something about that face in the picture............ where have I seen it before? 
Oh, and the Judge - a Trump appointee! 
I have been working on voter protection issues for a long time and have followed a number of cases. In the Kobach case on the Kansas proof of citizenship in order to register to vote case, Kobach put on a couple members of trump's voter fraud task force In the ACLU v. Kobach case, Kobach attempted to manufactured evidence to justify the Kansas voter registration/citizenship law using the same evidence cited by trump as proof of voter fraud and relying on an asshole who used to be on the federal election commission.. The judge had fun pointing out how Kobach's so-called experts were not experts and how they failed https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/kobach-witnesses-judge-opinion
In a 100-plus-page decision knocking down Kansas’ proof-of-citizenship voter registration law, U.S. District Judge Julie Robinson spent some two-dozen pages dismantling the testimonies offered by the so-called experts called by Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach to defend the law.
She said that “misleading evidence” and “preconceived beliefs about this issue” were the basis of the testimony given by one member of President Trump’s now-defunct voter fraud commission, which Kobach once led. The author of a report Trump allies once touted as evidence of mass voter fraud offered estimates of Kansas non-citizen registration that were “individually flawed and wildly varied,” Robinson said. Additionally, the top researcher at an anti-immigration think tank who argued that the Kobach’s law did not affect voter turnout was not qualified to make such a conclusion, Robinson ruled, excluding large parts of his testimony.
Kobach — as part of a test an appeals court said the district judge should use to evaluate his voter law — needed to prove that voter fraud, and specifically non-citizen registration, was a “substantial” problem in Kansas. The experts he called appeared to be the best options he had to back that claim — and they fell well short of convincing the judge.
“The Court will not rely on extrapolated numbers from tiny sample sizes and otherwise flawed data,” she said.
She said that “misleading evidence” and “preconceived beliefs about this issue” were the basis of the testimony given by one member of President Trump’s now-defunct voter fraud commission, which Kobach once led. The author of a report Trump allies once touted as evidence of mass voter fraud offered estimates of Kansas non-citizen registration that were “individually flawed and wildly varied,” Robinson said. Additionally, the top researcher at an anti-immigration think tank who argued that the Kobach’s law did not affect voter turnout was not qualified to make such a conclusion, Robinson ruled, excluding large parts of his testimony.
Kobach — as part of a test an appeals court said the district judge should use to evaluate his voter law — needed to prove that voter fraud, and specifically non-citizen registration, was a “substantial” problem in Kansas. The experts he called appeared to be the best options he had to back that claim — and they fell well short of convincing the judge.
“The Court will not rely on extrapolated numbers from tiny sample sizes and otherwise flawed data,” she said.
Hans von Spakovsky is a bush recess appointee to the FEC and is now with the Heritage Foundation. This asshole is cited by trump and the other vote suppressors even though Hans von Spakovsky is a total idiot. I love the way that the judge treated this idiot.
“He later admitted during cross-examination that he had no personal knowledge as to whether or not any of these individuals had in fact falsely asserted U.S. citizenship when they became registered to vote and that he did not examine the facts of these individual cases,” the judge said.
She also picked apart other claims von Spakovsky made about voter fraud based on reports outside of Kansas, and knocked him for failing to correct or supplement his expert report when obvious flaws were pointed out to him during the proceedings.
"The record is replete with further evidence of Mr. von Spakovsky’s bias,” she said.
She also picked apart other claims von Spakovsky made about voter fraud based on reports outside of Kansas, and knocked him for failing to correct or supplement his expert report when obvious flaws were pointed out to him during the proceedings.
"The record is replete with further evidence of Mr. von Spakovsky’s bias,” she said.
These so-called experts will now be challenged if they attempt to testify in the future. This opinion really makes me smile
I doubt that the trump admin will be able to provide evidence of voter fraud
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