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Doesn't screwing with the post office affect voters of both parties? (Original Post) milestogo Aug 2020 OP
More voting is good for Dems, less voting is good for GOP gollygee Aug 2020 #1
Please explain your reasoning on this. milestogo Aug 2020 #4
I had heard it from Bernie Sanders but Fact Check says it isn't that simple gollygee Aug 2020 #8
Have you ever heard, "pray for rain"? EllieBC Aug 2020 #12
not the whole story. drray23 Aug 2020 #7
you would think beachbumbob Aug 2020 #2
polling is showing that most Dem voters plan or want qazplm135 Aug 2020 #3
The one thing I think they're missing is motivation sweetloukillbot Aug 2020 #10
It's a broad strategy. In many states, ... Whiskeytide Aug 2020 #16
no they are hoping for it qazplm135 Aug 2020 #17
Poll from last week Dems vote by mail 72%, repukes 30+% Thekaspervote Aug 2020 #13
YES elleng Aug 2020 #5
I am saying this to the other side. Doreen Aug 2020 #6
repukes know that the MORE people vote, the LESS likely they are to win Skittles Aug 2020 #9
people will crawl over glass to vote in this election warrior1 Aug 2020 #11
I've seen this very statement posted in lots of places...and I think it's true Thekaspervote Aug 2020 #14
Trump's motivation on this jimbobboy18 Aug 2020 #15
I think you've got it and welcome to DU! Rhiannon12866 Aug 2020 #21
I think they have been transparent in trying to find a way to make sure jorgevlorgan Aug 2020 #18
What if the screwing with the post office is done unevenly by location? RockRaven Aug 2020 #19
Blue states will remain blue. Red will remain red. We need to look at battleground states. Kaleva Aug 2020 #23
You would think... EarthFirst Aug 2020 #20
Yes. Kaleva Aug 2020 #22

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
1. More voting is good for Dems, less voting is good for GOP
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 09:25 PM
Aug 2020

so it helps them. The fewer votes, the better they'll do.

EllieBC

(3,040 posts)
12. Have you ever heard, "pray for rain"?
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 09:38 PM
Aug 2020

It was sort of like “break a leg” amongst GOP politicians. Basically pray for rain so less people come out of vote, in particular older or poorer folks who might not be able to or want to walk or take transit in inclement weather.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
2. you would think
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 09:27 PM
Aug 2020

but we know ignorance is that GOp'ers may with not being able to connect the dots between absentee ballots and mail-in ballots, they aren;t all that bright

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
3. polling is showing that most Dem voters plan or want
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 09:27 PM
Aug 2020

to vote by mail...and that most Republicans plan or want to vote in person.

So, the thinking is, destroy the former to give more power to the latter.

sweetloukillbot

(11,062 posts)
10. The one thing I think they're missing is motivation
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 09:36 PM
Aug 2020

I want to vote by mail. If not, I want to drop off my ballot in advance. But I'll be damned if they (or COVID) keeps me from voting. And I think the crowds in Georgia, Kentucky and Wisconsin show that there are a lot of Dems who feel the same way.

Whiskeytide

(4,462 posts)
16. It's a broad strategy. In many states, ...
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 09:48 PM
Aug 2020

... if you request a mail in ballot, you can’t later decide Not to use it and instead vote in person. You might be able to cast a provisional ballot, but most say that is a wasted effort - the provisionals are never counted.

Polls are showing that Dems are overwhelmingly more likely to try Voting by mail and avoid the congestion of voting in person because we generally believe that COVID 19 is a real thing. Many Republicans are not constrained by that reality. But it will be new to the vast majority of them. If they can make it more difficult to do, more confusing, and less reliable, they stand to disenfranchise perhaps millions of votes, most of which would probably be for Biden/Harris.

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
17. no they are hoping for it
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 09:55 PM
Aug 2020

imagine...tens of millions of D voters request mail in ballots.
They send them in...and many of them are not counted, or lost.

Let's say these voters are paying so much attention that they are tracking it, they see they voted weeks ago but it hasn't arrived, or they fear it wasnt counted, so they decide, I'll just vote in person instead.

Nope, sorry, you requested a mail in ballot, so you can't vote in person.

Motivation only helps if people are informed ahead of time BEFORE they request a mail in ballot. People need to be told there is a risk here. Does that mean no one should vote mail in? No, of course not, but they should know that the risk of their vote going missing or being rejected is higher than in probably all prior elections.

Skittles

(153,185 posts)
9. repukes know that the MORE people vote, the LESS likely they are to win
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 09:34 PM
Aug 2020

that is why VOTER SUPPRESSION is GOP SOP

Thekaspervote

(32,790 posts)
14. I've seen this very statement posted in lots of places...and I think it's true
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 09:44 PM
Aug 2020

Enthusiasm is on our side

Want you vote to count?? absolutely you do ....so
1. Vote early in person
2. Hand carry your completed mail in ballot to its appropriate destination..do not put it back in the mail regardless how early it is
3. Vote on Election Day, be prepared for long lines- take food, water, a lawn chair, possibly a blanket, umbrella if needed. BE PREPARED

jimbobboy18

(22 posts)
15. Trump's motivation on this
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 09:45 PM
Aug 2020

I think Trump thinks if people have to go to the polls the dem's are less likely to go because they are more worried about standing in long lines in close quarters during a pandemic. He knows his people aren't quite as bright and would have no qualms whatsoever standing in long lines with no social distancing. In fact they would consider it a badge of honor to do so. Trump could care less if it kills off many thousands to do so.

jorgevlorgan

(8,327 posts)
18. I think they have been transparent in trying to find a way to make sure
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 09:58 PM
Aug 2020

Ballots from democratic areas will not be delivered as easily as those from republican ones.

RockRaven

(14,990 posts)
19. What if the screwing with the post office is done unevenly by location?
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 09:59 PM
Aug 2020

What if that uneven malfeasance is done thoughtfully, with intent to generate uneven effects?

EarthFirst

(2,904 posts)
20. You would think...
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 10:03 PM
Aug 2020

I seem to remember that more Republicans generally vote by absentee/mail-in than their Democratic counterpart.

In this instance; however they know that the pandemic has created a dramatic increase in voters of both parties desire to vote by mail; and we know full well how large turnout favors Democratic candidates.

They know what they’re trying to prevent.

Kaleva

(36,333 posts)
22. Yes.
Sat Aug 15, 2020, 06:07 AM
Aug 2020

Trump's base resides in rural areas and a study has found that a higher percentage of mail in ballots cast in rural areas arrive too late to be counted then in urban areas. A slow down in mail service will likely increase that percentage.

Trump's strongest age demographic is the elderly and the elderly are more likely to vote by mail.

"The one exception is related to age, where voters older than 65 are more likely to use them than younger voters. (Note that some states, even those that generally require an excuse to vote absentee, allow older voters to vote by mail without an excuse.)"

https://electionupdates.caltech.edu/2020/03/20/some-demographics-on-voting-by-mail/

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