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babylonsister

(171,075 posts)
Sat Aug 15, 2020, 09:11 AM Aug 2020

Vendor Managing Virus Data Refuses Senate Questions



https://politicalwire.com/2020/08/14/vendor-managing-virus-database-refuses-senate-questions/

Vendor Managing Virus Data Refuses Senate Questions
August 14, 2020 at 9:20 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard


“The private health care technology vendor that is helping to manage the Trump administration’s new coronavirus database has refused to answer questions from top Senate Democrats about its $10.2 million contract, saying it signed a nondisclosure agreement with the federal Department of Health and Human Services,” the New York Times reports.
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Vendor Managing Virus Data Refuses Senate Questions (Original Post) babylonsister Aug 2020 OP
Well that's effed up soothsayer Aug 2020 #1
My taxes jpak Aug 2020 #2
Talk about a dangerous virus that is spreading genxlib Aug 2020 #3
Question if our government has ever used NDA's for minor things like this until trumpig came along KS Toronado Aug 2020 #18
Me too! My first thought - Has this ever happened before? liberalla Aug 2020 #24
How many licks does it take to theaocp Aug 2020 #4
Is that even legal? Native Aug 2020 #5
It is "unusual," and it stinks to high heaven. Eugene Aug 2020 #6
Thanks! Native Aug 2020 #7
Thanks... BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2020 #22
I wouldn't think so nuxvomica Aug 2020 #8
BULLSHIT!! ashredux Aug 2020 #9
A nondisclosure agreement with the federal government? Seriously? PatSeg Aug 2020 #10
+1,000 Canoe52 Aug 2020 #11
This shit has got to be stopped. Ferrets are Cool Aug 2020 #12
jail time ? AllaN01Bear Aug 2020 #13
Enough. Find him in contempt and jail him. c-rational Aug 2020 #14
the Federal government. This is your employer idiot! AllyCat Aug 2020 #15
NDA for government contracting?? WTF? Rule by Secrecy. bucolic_frolic Aug 2020 #16
They need to go to jail!! Thekaspervote Aug 2020 #17
Once again, they don't know how things work... paleotn Aug 2020 #19
Aha!!! A PRIVATE vendor! calimary Aug 2020 #20
Yes, pukes have been slavering to grab it for years. BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2020 #23
Another criminal organization to go after in KPN Aug 2020 #21
Shut the motherfuckers down immediately and jail their boss......... Stainless Aug 2020 #25
Another need for a law. Lonestarblue Aug 2020 #26
Of course they won't answer questions. They are manipulating the data to tell the lie trump wants. iluvtennis Aug 2020 #27

genxlib

(5,528 posts)
3. Talk about a dangerous virus that is spreading
Sat Aug 15, 2020, 09:18 AM
Aug 2020

The whole concept of Non Disclosure Agreements should be anathema to Government. There are systems in place to keep some things secret. They might restrict who gets to know but they cannot be used to restrict from oversight.

I don't care how important the testimony is. They should sue to stamp that NDA concept out of existence within the halls of Government.

KS Toronado

(17,270 posts)
18. Question if our government has ever used NDA's for minor things like this until trumpig came along
Sat Aug 15, 2020, 10:58 AM
Aug 2020

liberalla

(9,249 posts)
24. Me too! My first thought - Has this ever happened before?
Sat Aug 15, 2020, 11:32 AM
Aug 2020

Highly suspect... but then, what about this administration isn't???

Eugene

(61,909 posts)
6. It is "unusual," and it stinks to high heaven.
Sat Aug 15, 2020, 09:55 AM
Aug 2020
The arrangement was unusual, Jessica Tillipman, an assistant dean at George Washington University Law School who teaches about government contracts and anti-corruption, said in an interview.


“The Trump administration’s decision to hire a private vendor and then cloak that vendor in a nondisclosure agreement raises numerous questions about their motivations and risks the ability of our public health experts to understand and effectively fight this virus,” Mr. Schumer said in a statement Friday.



https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/14/world/covid-19-coronavirus.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage#link-538de6a7

The administration is even refusing to name the bidders on the contract.

nuxvomica

(12,432 posts)
8. I wouldn't think so
Sat Aug 15, 2020, 10:00 AM
Aug 2020

Contracts that violate the law, in this case whatever laws cover Congress's oversight duties, should be unenforceable. It doesn't matter if both parties agreed to it.

PatSeg

(47,517 posts)
10. A nondisclosure agreement with the federal government? Seriously?
Sat Aug 15, 2020, 10:09 AM
Aug 2020

I know Trump tries to run the country like his businesses, but this is ridiculous, unless of course, you have goals to become a dictator.

AllyCat

(16,193 posts)
15. the Federal government. This is your employer idiot!
Sat Aug 15, 2020, 10:35 AM
Aug 2020

Congress is part of the Federal government and your employer. You do not get to withhold information from them.

bucolic_frolic

(43,197 posts)
16. NDA for government contracting?? WTF? Rule by Secrecy.
Sat Aug 15, 2020, 10:36 AM
Aug 2020

Those are our tax dollars at work! This is not a National Security issue. THis is PUBLIC health!

paleotn

(17,931 posts)
19. Once again, they don't know how things work...
Sat Aug 15, 2020, 11:11 AM
Aug 2020

Constitutional oversight offsets any kind of disclosure agreement. They're either stupid, or they're in on it with Donnie.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
23. Yes, pukes have been slavering to grab it for years.
Sat Aug 15, 2020, 11:19 AM
Aug 2020

Jail! Something! These criminals have to be stopped.

Lonestarblue

(10,024 posts)
26. Another need for a law.
Sat Aug 15, 2020, 11:50 AM
Aug 2020

We have open government initiatives that agencies are supposed to follow, but Trump follows nothing but his own wishes. The Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), 5 U.S.C. § 552, requires the full or partial disclosure of information and documents controlled by the United States government upon request. Can Congress not immediately force release of information through FOIA?

If not, we need to codify the laws around NDAs and the ability of any private contractor to hide information from Congress.

iluvtennis

(19,863 posts)
27. Of course they won't answer questions. They are manipulating the data to tell the lie trump wants.
Sat Aug 15, 2020, 12:03 PM
Aug 2020


(I use to own a t-shirt with this saying on it - then it was with respect to being a software engineer. But it applies to what trump is doing today)
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