Seth Abramson: Guardian: 'IC probe of Trump-Russia ties began when 7 allied intel agencies..'

[triron]

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[Iliyah]

1. treason barr, loney tune rudy g... . .

pompous Pompeo, house and senate republicans went to lengths around the world to persuade other countries to falsely make claims against the Obama administration, including, but limited to VP Biden.

That's a fact jack and I'm pretty sure someone has documents, videos, tapes of the encounters.

[llashram]

2. Hell trump has been lying

from day one of his campaign and had been lying, politically, earlier than that about a true American POTUS Barack H. Obama. What a low life cur trump has always been.

[Traildogbob]

3. Spy games

I just watched an older movie, Recruit with Al Pachino. I know it’s just a spy movie, but the technology the CIA has in the movie was mind blowing. Imagine what they have we don’t know. The ability to “Listen In” with high tech equipment is beyond our comprehension. So, with that, how the hell are idiots like trump, Gooliani, Kushner, et al able to do what they have been doing so long and no charges of treason blowing up? Does anybody think these fools are smarter than the CIA’s best? Even the tea party Congress and Senate are loaded with load mouth fools, Gomert, Gaetz, Nunez, Gym Jorden, and let’s not forget Trump spawn. There have to be thousands of hours of tales. Forget about per tapes, the treason conversations are what need to be prosecuted. If not, what is the purpose of the CIA and their budget? I mean, this post is already under scrutiny.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

4. That movie is fiction. Don't believe the tech in it is real. Of course some is, but some is not.

Do not base your assessment of capabilities on fiction.

It is not a proper foundation.

It's fiction.

[Traildogbob]

6. I know it is fiction

Not the point. I had secret clearance way back in 1974 for ten years as Ops Specialist in the military. Light years ago. I know in today’s technology there are capabilities way beyond what we think, certainly capable of out smarting Rudy, trump Jr, and Jarod. We had video capability way back then that could count the buttons vertically on a mans shirt from 10,000 feet in a moving aircraft. Aerial Photo Interpretation was my specialty. Surely we can out wit the GOP clowns with communication technology today. If not, we are a joke.

[triron]

5. Not sure I get the gist of your post.

What are you trying to say (in other words)?

[Traildogbob]

7. Just that

All the criminality that is obvious within the GOP with outside help of other countries for decades, out in the open, there has to be trails of evidence, especially left by these clowns. If Obama was SPYING on the Trump campaign as he insist, there should be “Binders Full” of evidence, of treason and election tampering.

[triron]

11. Maybe it's kept underwraps?

The upheaval that might ensue would be worse that the alternative?
Are they hoping for the 'voting process' to play out for the good in the long haul?
Any suggestions?

[cilla4progress]

13. Triron -

you and I have been on the same page with this since Nov. 2016 - that is, votes were definitely changed (voting machines).

You don't get those close margins under these circumstances (Putin calling the shots).

And I agree that at some high levels in the Obama admin - it was thought that it would be too destabilizing to disclose. Just as Obama did not disclose Putin's "interference" when he learned of it before the election in 2016. Recall, he asked Mitch to go forward with him to tell us, but, when Mitch would not, Obama opted not to; I believe, thinking, it would tip the election to drumpf. I've always felt that was a mistake.

[Traildogbob]

14. Yes

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A mistake then, and certainly now. Being afraid is what has led us here now. To let it continue for fear of what if, may but us into a point we never recover from. Just my opinion. But, doing nothing encourages the criminality to grow into every segment of the government until we are Belarus, or Russia. Fighting for Democracy has never been pretty. My opinion, I just believe we should honor those that died for it. Fear is their game, they have been at it for decades.

[triron]

15. I think Rachel Maddow has been trying to warn people, including congress and IC.

But so far seems to land on deaf ears.

[triron]

16. Also Hillary tried to warn us back in 2016. Not enough of us listened.

Media was busy pushing the email shit.

[padfun]

8. As a Navy vet from the mid 70's, I agree.

We didn't use the sonar scopes you see in the movies, with the round scope like radar. I think overall, they are about 7-10 years ahead in the tech that the public uses.

I would just LOVE to see what is on our ships and subs today.

[Traildogbob]

9. Me too

There was no GPS. We traveled world wide and Navigated way out in the oceans by Signalman plotting us by stars. When coming into port we triangulated with Scopes and Land charts. Sounds ancient but the Destroyer I served on then was considered high tech. I would so love to visit CIC on today’s destroyers to see the tech we are at. Served 1970 until 1980. No wooden mast or sails. “I can not confirm or deny the presence of nuclear weapons on board that vessel”🤭!

[cilla4progress]

10. I agree traildogbob -

so, why haven't they been busted yet?

[triron]

12. See my post in reply to him above.

Same question.

[triron]

17. knr