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Cetacea

(7,367 posts)
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 12:02 PM Aug 2020

Mark Meadows gets busted on-air for lying to Jake Tapper about disabling USPS sorting machines

Toward the end of a long and combative interview with Mark Meadows, CNN “State of the Union” host Jake Tapper called out Donald Trump’s White House chief of staff for lying to him earlier in the segment when he claimed no Post Office high-volume sorting machines were being hauled away to slow down mail delivery.

In the first few minutes of the CNN interview, when confronted with reports about the machinery being decommissioned, Meadows insisted it was lie and part of a narrative cooked up by Democrats. He then challenged Tapper’s producer to find out the facts and “whisper” them into the CNN host’s ear.

Approximately ten minutes later, they did just that.
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“In terms of the fact check that you asked me to look into, one of my great producer did, it’s in terms of the machines,” Tapper began. “Chris Bentley, president of the National Postal Mail Handler’s Union Local 297, which covers Kansas and part of Missouri, two good Trump states, told CNN that postal management has already taken out four machines in Kansas City, two machines in Springfield, Missouri, and one machine in Wichita, Kansas. That is earlier this year under this new postmaster general.”


https://www.rawstory.com/2020/08/mark-meadows-gets-busted-on-air-for-lying-to-jake-tapper-about-disabling-usps-sorting-machines/

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Mark Meadows gets busted on-air for lying to Jake Tapper about disabling USPS sorting machines (Original Post) Cetacea Aug 2020 OP
They are denying this is happening? underpants Aug 2020 #1
Happened to see that bit. Just part of the traitortrump job definition. empedocles Aug 2020 #2
No alternate reality. Trump has merely freed them COLGATE4 Aug 2020 #4
Sad truth. nt crickets Aug 2020 #6
Monkey see, monkey do. calimary Aug 2020 #25
That's why monkeys when irritated (like COLGATE4 Aug 2020 #40
It's their familiar "fake news" and "Democrat hoax" memes rolled into one eleny Aug 2020 #8
Yeah I guess so. underpants Aug 2020 #11
An alternative universe called "mob" led by a mob bo$$. Lock him up. Aug 2020 #30
They're slowing down the mail in red states? CaptYossarian Aug 2020 #3
They're slowing down the mail in BLUE areas of red states maxrandb Aug 2020 #5
I see it now. Thanks. CaptYossarian Aug 2020 #7
Are they returning the mail boxes to Portland? n/t Cetacea Aug 2020 #9
From Marc Elias Gothmog Aug 2020 #10
Thank you for that map. n/t Cetacea Aug 2020 #13
This is crucial. Thank you for posting! Mike 03 Aug 2020 #14
I was part of the Clinton Victory Counsel program and have been working on voter protection Gothmog Aug 2020 #29
Trump's postmaster targets Dem areas for mail service reduction. oasis Aug 2020 #23
It certainly appears that @USPS is targeting Democratic areas with near surgical Botany Aug 2020 #27
There will be litigation on this Gothmog Aug 2020 #28
Honestly, there is a difference between removing sorting machines "to slow down mail delivery" and Hoyt Aug 2020 #12
Ten years ago I was in the huge regional processing center in SD grantcart Aug 2020 #16
Good input. I worked in a smaller organization and we replaced our mail machine twice in a few years Hoyt Aug 2020 #18
Nobody has said any of these machines were replaced. LisaL Aug 2020 #20
Moved to other facilities or not needed, just like 240,000 mailboxes have been removed since 1985. Hoyt Aug 2020 #21
Sure. Not needed in large urban areas. LisaL Aug 2020 #36
Do you have such a map and do you know how many machines remain? It's not like Hoyt Aug 2020 #37
there is a map upthread which shows the daily sort capacity reduction yellowdogintexas Aug 2020 #47
On the other hand, in a large populated area -- during declining use of letter mail -- you'd expect Hoyt Aug 2020 #49
Have you seen anything suggesting machines were replaced? LisaL Aug 2020 #19
Do you doubt that letter mail has declined in past few months, while packages have increased? Hoyt Aug 2020 #22
Thanks. stopdiggin Aug 2020 #32
Well, if you believe that, I have a nice bridge for sale. LisaL Aug 2020 #35
Neither have I. I'd feel a lot better if there were at least a few going in yellowdogintexas Aug 2020 #48
Didn't see it, but no doubt Meadows responded with this: George II Aug 2020 #15
LOL Cetacea Aug 2020 #17
If they remove automated sorting machines ... left-of-center2012 Aug 2020 #24
According To What I Read, Absolutely ProfessorGAC Aug 2020 #26
Mark Meadows may be loyal to Trump but he's not very bright. BlueIdaho Aug 2020 #31
BUSTED! Illumination Aug 2020 #33
They shouldn't be making 'production' changes right now. StocktonNative Aug 2020 #34
I didn't see him getting "busted". Hulk Aug 2020 #38
KNR Lucinda Aug 2020 #39
Doesn't he have a history of lying? malaise Aug 2020 #41
I doubt they are only stopping the returned ballots, but the ballots that are to go out, as well. C Moon Aug 2020 #42
Damn.. meadows is a gd Idiot! TY! Cha Aug 2020 #43
There are at least three groups fighting for free and fair elections RickGeneric Aug 2020 #44
Thanks for the link! nt crickets Aug 2020 #45
Fuck these fucking fucks Blue Owl Aug 2020 #46

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
4. No alternate reality. Trump has merely freed them
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 12:22 PM
Aug 2020

to respond to any charges with lies. There's no penalty for doing it and people ate now so accustomed to it that it hardly makes a ripple.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
40. That's why monkeys when irritated (like
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 02:55 PM
Aug 2020

being asked questions they can't answer) fling shit at the questioner.

Lock him up.

(6,939 posts)
30. An alternative universe called "mob" led by a mob bo$$.
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 02:13 PM
Aug 2020
RICO THE TRUMP MOB, ITS BO$$ AND ITS ACCOMPLICE$

Gothmog

(145,479 posts)
29. I was part of the Clinton Victory Counsel program and have been working on voter protection
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 02:13 PM
Aug 2020

Marc is a great attorney

oasis

(49,398 posts)
23. Trump's postmaster targets Dem areas for mail service reduction.
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 01:53 PM
Aug 2020

Dems need to rush this to the House oversight committee.

Botany

(70,551 posts)
27. It certainly appears that @USPS is targeting Democratic areas with near surgical
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 02:08 PM
Aug 2020

It certainly appears that @USPS is targeting Democratic areas with near surgical precision for reductions of sorting capacity.

And look who is # in the nation. Columbus, OH.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
12. Honestly, there is a difference between removing sorting machines "to slow down mail delivery" and
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 12:40 PM
Aug 2020

removing it to put in other facilities with higher volume, decommissioning old equipment being replaced by newer/better equipment, changing letter sorters to package sorters when packages are increasing and letters are declining, etc.

Found some stats on blue mail boxes. In 1985, there were 400,000 in USA. Now it's down to 160,000. I can assure you that is not due to an attempt to slow down the mail for the election.

Vote, request ballots early, mail them back quickly, drop them off at election board if possible, vote in-person early, etc., and thumb your nose at trump and his supporters.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
16. Ten years ago I was in the huge regional processing center in SD
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 01:34 PM
Aug 2020

It felt like it was the size of a football stadium 80% dark with huge machines in the dark.

In the corner there were 5 much smaller machines that were running at the speed of light.

They said that because of the speed of the new machines they only need to run them 6 hours a day.

There was one other specially designed machine for Netflix only which accounted for 25% of their revenue.

All to say they are constantly updating the technology and some machine replacement is always happening.

Their handling of these issues makes the rollout of the new Coke look good.
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
18. Good input. I worked in a smaller organization and we replaced our mail machine twice in a few years
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 01:38 PM
Aug 2020

when we stared having big mailings going to 20,000 people. The increase in technology was significant.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
21. Moved to other facilities or not needed, just like 240,000 mailboxes have been removed since 1985.
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 01:42 PM
Aug 2020

LisaL

(44,974 posts)
36. Sure. Not needed in large urban areas.
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 02:28 PM
Aug 2020

What's your deal, seriously? Look at the map where those machines were removed.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
37. Do you have such a map and do you know how many machines remain? It's not like
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 02:30 PM
Aug 2020

the processing centers are going to sort mail by hand.

yellowdogintexas

(22,270 posts)
47. there is a map upthread which shows the daily sort capacity reduction
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 10:21 AM
Aug 2020

Notice the circles, their size and locations. In Texas, Houston, San Antonio, Austin and the DFW area have the greatest reduction. Even though the FW side of DFW is more Republican & the Dallas side is more Democratic, you can't separate that impact because the largest central sorting station is at the airport.

Move up to KY and TN Impact? Nashville/Davidson county which has not sent a Republican to Congress for at least 100 years; Memphis/Shelby county which is very blue; Louisville/Jefferson County which sends Kentucky's lone Democrat to the House.

Columbus is a huge reduction for a city of its size. I would speculate that is because of the presence of Ohio State University.

Even li'l ole red AZ - that dot down there is Maricopa County/Phoenix. Maricopa County is scaring the bejeebus out of the Republicans as it is getting bluer.

You couldn't convince me in a million years that this sudden decision to remove and "replace" is not timed to impact this election.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
49. On the other hand, in a large populated area -- during declining use of letter mail -- you'd expect
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 11:05 AM
Aug 2020

lots of UNUSED capacity and target those for decommission, moving elsewhere, replacement with package sorting equipment, etc.

LisaL

(44,974 posts)
19. Have you seen anything suggesting machines were replaced?
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 01:40 PM
Aug 2020

Machines were removed and destroyed. I have seen nothing to suggest any new machines were put in place. Especially considering these machines are expensive, and post office is supposedly low on funds.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
22. Do you doubt that letter mail has declined in past few months, while packages have increased?
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 01:44 PM
Aug 2020

That alone could explain decommissioning and moving some machines.

stopdiggin

(11,336 posts)
32. Thanks.
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 02:21 PM
Aug 2020

You would appear to be trying to be a voice of reason.
Sometimes that matters here on DU. Sometimes not so much. But I appreciate your efforts nonetheless.
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yellowdogintexas

(22,270 posts)
48. Neither have I. I'd feel a lot better if there were at least a few going in
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 10:23 AM
Aug 2020

at larger service centers.

ProfessorGAC

(65,134 posts)
26. According To What I Read, Absolutely
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 02:03 PM
Aug 2020

Most of the machines sort 160,000 pieces of mail per hour.
That's 44.44 pieces of mail per second! No human could even come near that!

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
31. Mark Meadows may be loyal to Trump but he's not very bright.
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 02:13 PM
Aug 2020

Typically - buffoons Like Meadows keep “failing up” as long as they are rabid enough Trump Humpers. Stop lying Mark - the whole world is watching...

StocktonNative

(120 posts)
34. They shouldn't be making 'production' changes right now.
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 02:26 PM
Aug 2020

You flub up machine production and only have 80 days to fix it is insane.

Do that to a car manufacturing facility as a Pier producer and it would be your ass.

This is voter suppression to the max.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
38. I didn't see him getting "busted".
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 02:50 PM
Aug 2020

Again, these tools talk fast and kick up enough dust to leave the viewer confused...again. I think you saw what you wanted to see. It was like watching dodgeball in a torrential rain storm. He didn’t get busted at all.

C Moon

(12,219 posts)
42. I doubt they are only stopping the returned ballots, but the ballots that are to go out, as well.
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 03:03 PM
Aug 2020

This was thought out ahead of time: how best to stop the mail-in ballots, so Putin can control things from the voting booths, and the GOP can place threatening people outside the poll areas—maybe even Trump's new militia.

But what will be great, is when Biden still wins. I'm not sure about the house and senate, though.

RickGeneric

(11 posts)
44. There are at least three groups fighting for free and fair elections
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 05:54 PM
Aug 2020

There are at least three groups fighting for free and fair elections: The National Task Force, The Transition Integrity Project, Silver Linings Group.
https://theanalysis.news/interviews/what-if-trump-wont-go-col-lawrence-wilkerson/

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