200 Mormons sign letter breaking away from Republican Party and supporting Biden

[FM123]

(Daily Mail) Donald Trump is losing ground among typically Republican-voting Mormons in Arizona, as some members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints take a surprising turn and put their support behind Democratic candidate Joe Biden. Yasser Sanchez, who twice worked to defeat Biden's bids for vice presidency by building support for Republican candidates among fellow Mormons, now says he'll vote for Biden in the upcoming election. Sanchez finds himself in a surprising position as he's become repelled from his party and by President Donald Trump. 'We're taught to be steady, to be basically the opposite of the way he's lived his life,' Sanchez said.

On Wednesday more than 200 people identifying themselves as Republicans who belong to the church published an open letter declaring their opposition to Trump and calling him 'the antithesis of so much the Latter-day Saints community believes.

In a bid to recapture votes, the Trump campaign launched its Latter-day Saints for Trump Coalition this past week and sent Vice President Mike Pence to Mesa, a suburb of Phoenix, for the kickoff on Tuesday. While many conservative-leaning religious voters warmed to him long ago, Trump has struggled to win over Latter-day Saints.

His penchant for foul language clashes with the church's culture teaching modesty and self-restraint, and his isolationist foreign policy is anathema to a faith spreading rapidly around the world. Trump's fued with Sen. Mitt Romney, a Republican from Utah and one of the best known members of the church, has further tarnished his reputation among believers.

Trump's relative weakness with Latter-day Saints is now a growing political liability. (Read More)

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8632581/Mormons-cool-Trump-finding-new-influence-Arizona.html

[Cha]

1. I would think anyone in their right mind would

not be able to support a hell monster.

[SheltieLover]

2. Right, Cha!

Good point!

[Cha]

4. It's not like it's Rocket Science.

[SheltieLover]

5. Exactly!

[Guilded Lilly]

11. My thoughts, exactly Cha!

[PatrickforO]

14. Indeed. Trump is a demon incarnate.

Unless you are totally propagandized by decades of AM hate-talk radio, you've got to be looking around and saying, "Hey, wait a minute! This guy has screwed everything up. Everything."

[Wellstone ruled]

3. Will be watching for Washington and

Utah Counties in Utah for any matching letters. Same for here in Clark and Washoe Counties.

[Demonaut]

6. "Trump's fued with Sen. Mitt Romney"?..stupid rag

[soothsayer]

7. Maybe drumpf should drive a tank over peaceful protesters in Salt Lake City

... and hold the Book of Mormon upside down in front of a tabernacle

[Hekate]

8. I hope this is a harbinger of hope for us. Mormons are not Evangelicals...

I disagree with many of their tenets, but I don’t doubt the sincerity of their many converts — and while American Evangelicals want to overlook and rationalize Trump’s foul behavior, I can see why Mormons would have a hard time doing so.

[Brother Buzz]

9. And by extension, Pence will not be receiving the red carpet treatment he thinks he's getting....

for the Vice-Presidential Debate in Salt Lake City

October 7, 2020 - Mark your calendar

[Aristus]

10. Mormonism is a whacko religion.

But most of it's followers seem to at least be on a nodding acquaintance with common human decency.

[Shermann]

13. 2020 will be a year of tests with conclusive results

Mormonism is being tested. I have to say Romney and the gang are showing some backbone. Good on them.

I can't say the same for Southern Baptists Ted Cruz and Lindsey Graham.

The Catholic church will never recover from its failed tests in the form of the sex abuse scandals.

CV-19 also tested the NRA and its core tenant against tyranny this year. They failed.

[FreeState]

19. Mormonism has been imploding for a few years now

Outside of Utah growth has all but disappeared. In the last year alone the current Leadership has under the prophetic roll:

- Shortened church from three hours to two
- Done away with the requirement to wear white shirts if male
- Done away with the requirement for dresses for women missionaries
- Changed the temple ceremony twice (removing parts that were taught as eternal ordinances)
- Admitted the Book of Mormon is not literal
- Admitted their history is not what they have been teaching
- Admitted Joseph Smith “translated” the Book of Mormon via placing his head in a hat and looking at at a rock
- Admitted the Book of Abraham does not match the scrolls it was supposedly translated from
- tried to equate calling members Mormons to something insulting and I sting the term not be used.

And that’s just a partial list. The LDS church won’t even resemble what it was in a few years.

[qazplm135]

17. I mean...

name a religion that doesn't have some "whacko" beliefs?

I am not anti-religion. It provides guidance, hope, and comfort to billions, so on that alone I find it worthwhile, but from wine turning into the blood of Christ to a host of other beliefs, religions don't ten to stick to the rational in their belief systems 100 percent.

[Scruffy1]

20. I've known a lot of Mormons.

Like every other "culture" there are a lot of different views and a lot of it has to do with economic class. In business anything goes but that seems to be true for most religions. Somehow people can rationalize any behavior when money is involved. By and large I have found most Mormons that I know to be very down to earth and practical people. Salt Lake is actually a very progressive city. Mesa not so much.

[beachbumbob]

12. need 200,000 to mean something, 200 is a family Mormon gathering

[patphil]

18. My sentiment exactly.

[The_REAL_Ecumenist]

22. Who's to say how many countless more agree with this letter 2000000000% but didn't want their

name on it for privacy reasons? If 200 folks signed this letter, you can bet your sweet bippy that at LEAST 100 times that number agree, trust me. People tend to frown on your KILLING, either directly or through neglect, their family, friends & community members, just sayin'...

[slumcamper]

30. A PITTANCE! Let's see the ENTIRE Mormon thing--from the TOP, down--step up.

200..ONLY 200???

I hereby confer sainthood on the 200!

For the rest, if genuinely interested in saving souls, please begin with THE SOUL OF THE NATION. Please consider??

That's all. Hope you think.

Cheers.

[Vinca]

15. I've never understood how religious people can continue to be suckered by Trump.

Trump does his "I'm a devout Christian" act when he's around them and they lap it right up. Then he goes back to calling women fat pigs and putting kids in cages. Aka business as usual. He probably laughs like hell behind their backs.

[patphil]

21. Being religious and being spiritual are two entirely different things.

Evil leaders almost always look to religion to provide legitimacy, and there will always be plenty of religious people willing to give them that cover.
Hitler relied on the Catholic bishops of Germany to support him in his rise to power, just like the Evangelicals are doing with Trump.
Not to mention White Supremacists and KKK who claim to be religious.
They support Trump to achieve their secular goals, not spiritual ones.
They have no love in their hearts, that's obvious.

[keithbvadu2]

27. So devout

[Vinca]

39. Luckovich always nails it. This is spot on.

[AllTooEasy]

33. They aren't suckered, just singularly focused

Any president or candidate who opposes abortion will get their vote for that president. The devil would get their vote. Hell, they would switch to Biden by the millions if he promised to appoint a “Pro-Life“ Supreme Court justice. The economy, national security, all of our Global alliances, even democracy itself are expendable in their minds to end abortion.

[marybourg]

16. My Mormon acquaintance despises

him and says most of her family does also.

[The_REAL_Ecumenist]

23. Exactly, Marybourg. I just posted that there are probably COUNTLESS Mormons who HATE him & what

he's done to the innocent, the vulnerable, the struggling, etc. Ad infinitum

[onetexan]

38. Mormons comprise of 62% of Utah's population and it consistently votes red in presidential elections

Apparently there aren't yet enough 45-hating Mormons to turn the state blue .

[BadgerMom]

25. I have two practicing Mormon stepdaughters.

I love them both, but I can only talk to one about politics. The older one and her husband watch Fox and listen to Rush. Neither she nor her husband attended college. Her sister graduated from the U of Utah, married a medical doctor and are blue specks in the red desert that is southern Utah. While she still practices her faith, her husband has defected.

[AllTooEasy]

35. and they will still vote for Trump

I work in the defense field. I could retire if I had a nickel for every time I heard “I despise Trump/Republicans, but I’m against abortion”

Taxing the Rich, social programs, universal healthcare, even the gay marriage outcry has subsided within my conservative colleagues. They won’t get over abortion though.

I say make Arkansas a Pro-Life country, and deport ALL of them there. My apologies to my liberal Arkansanian brothers

[BadgerMom]

37. I hear what your saying but, no. They and their two voting age kids are Dems.

My granddaughter is a BLM supporter on social media. She was teased in high school for being an Obama supporter. She attends college in Boston. She cannot wait to vote for Biden in her first presidential election in November. They are the exception that proves the rule.

[UncleTomsEvilBrother]

24. Anybody who is confused...

...about the relationship between Trumps/Evangelicals and Trump/Mormonism is willingly ignoring the roles that racism, misogyny, and classism play in religions practiced in the United States.

[AllTooEasy]

36. Thank You!

[AZ8theist]

26. Oh, cry me a fucking river...

In AZ CD5, Doturd won by 20 points. Most Mormons gleefully cast their ballots for the traitorous pig.
They helped, IN A BIG WAY, delivering the state of Arizona to the imbecile intent on turning America into a fascist dictatorship.

I LONG AGO told the Mormons knocking on my door every week to go you know what. They, like asshole Joe Scarborough, are part of the problem, not part of the solution.

I'd be SHOCKED if the Mormon vote DID NOT go for Benedict Doturd again this year.
You know, cuz the Dems are baby-killers, remember?

[lillypaddle]

28. Then why would you disparage them??

Wait. MORMONs not Morons. Whew, had me going there for a minute. I'm old and half blind.

[Thekaspervote]

29. Whoa!! Very good news

[warmfeet]

31. I hate moronmormans.

Fuck, every, single, one of them.

[jaxexpat]

32. Brings a riddle to mind.

How many Mormons does it take to sign a letter expressing common sense?

[Drunken Irishman]

34. I live in Utah - know a lot of Mormons. Trump will win this state pretty easily, sadly.

He's actually more popular now here than he was four years ago. A lot of younger Mormons won't vote for him but a significant amount of older ones will. They think he's doing a great job pushing back against the 'loony left' and they feel he's great on the religious freedom issue. It's sad.