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still_one

(92,325 posts)
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:18 PM Aug 2020

It may not sound like a big issue, but I hear REPUKES on news shows refer to the Democratic Party as

the “Democrat” party. Mark fucking racist POS Meadows did it this morning, and Democrats and news personalities need to call them out on this

The traitorous, racist party that has become the Republican Party, need to be called out on this whenever they use it

THEY DO NOT GET TO DEFINE US


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It may not sound like a big issue, but I hear REPUKES on news shows refer to the Democratic Party as (Original Post) still_one Aug 2020 OP
Every time I vote my ballot says Democratic Party Walleye Aug 2020 #1
Exactly, and a good example to stick into their ugly faces still_one Aug 2020 #3
That's my cue to tune the fascist gasbags out. It just strengthens my hatred for Putin's party ResistantAmerican17 Aug 2020 #2
Yup still_one Aug 2020 #4
They've been doing that for years, since the Teabaggers took it over. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2020 #5
Since way before then teabaggers. SeattleVet Aug 2020 #7
I think it is their way of messaging that the Democratic Party is not Democratic, which is ironic still_one Aug 2020 #12
it's insulting but could be Demonaut Aug 2020 #6
nope SiliconValley_Dem Aug 2020 #10
wow. makes sense Demonaut Aug 2020 #13
Anybody who refers to it as the "Democrat Party" is an asshole, bar none greenjar_01 Aug 2020 #26
agree, it's always asshole that utter it including the those on MSNBC, the reporters Demonaut Aug 2020 #39
agree, it's always assholes that utter it including the those on MSNBC, the reporters Demonaut Aug 2020 #41
Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Aristus Aug 2020 #33
Thus has been going for years & years. Unfortunately, only rarely does it ever get called out. scarletwoman Aug 2020 #8
I always refer to them as the Repub Party or the Racist Party unitedwethrive Aug 2020 #9
Now they're the Magats in my book. Cha Aug 2020 #23
I had a coworker who always said "Democrat party" because he wanted to be disrespectful. sop Aug 2020 #11
That is exactly what it is, a sign of disrespect still_one Aug 2020 #14
It goes back a very long way caraher Aug 2020 #15
That's very true. Today I corrected someone on Twitter. dmr Aug 2020 #38
It's exactly the same tone used by bigots when.. Binkie The Clown Aug 2020 #16
re pubic an Party....Guardians Of Privilege....aMEricans IADEMO2004 Aug 2020 #17
Fox propaganda! BlueJac Aug 2020 #18
Maybe SheltieLover Aug 2020 #19
A lot of very strong Democrats in rural America, as well as less educated Democrats Ms. Toad Aug 2020 #20
Pfffffffft greenjar_01 Aug 2020 #25
Obviousy spoken by someone who is a bit elite & snobbish about grammar. n/t Ms. Toad Aug 2020 #28
LOL greenjar_01 Aug 2020 #29
Transparent that I grew up in a small cluster of Democrats Ms. Toad Aug 2020 #30
People you're fooling: greenjar_01 Aug 2020 #31
Not trying to fool anyone. Ms. Toad Aug 2020 #34
No one's criticizing Dems who use it. They're calling out Republicans who use it as pejorative StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #37
When you call out Republicans who use it, you are inherently calling out anyone who uses the term. Ms. Toad Aug 2020 #43
Don't be ridiculous StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #45
And when you call Trump fat, you're not insulting other fat people Ms. Toad Aug 2020 #48
Now you're being beyond ridiculous StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #50
I don't think it's elitist or snobbish for people to be able to remember one single Aristus Aug 2020 #35
That's pretty elitist n/t Ms. Toad Aug 2020 #36
No. It's normal. Aristus Aug 2020 #46
So you believe people, including Democrats, who are not as well educated as you Ms. Toad Aug 2020 #47
The only reason any Democrat would use the term is because they have appropriated it from... jcgoldie Aug 2020 #52
That term has been in use, in rural America, since the 70s. Ms. Toad Aug 2020 #53
It was started by Republic Party pollster Frank Luntz years ago. Funtatlaguy Aug 2020 #21
Yep, his book: "words that work". Walleye Aug 2020 #22
Hardly. Ms. Toad Aug 2020 #32
Welcome to 2002...you're just noticing this now? greenjar_01 Aug 2020 #24
Nope, but venting that the press let's them get away with it still_one Aug 2020 #27
From now on they should be called the Trump Party. tavernier Aug 2020 #40
And that is a true statement still_one Aug 2020 #42
In the '70's?! Far as I know it was a tatic by Newt... electric_blue68 Aug 2020 #44
They do it intentionally, just to piss us off... Wounded Bear Aug 2020 #49
You are absolutely correct, the media needs to call them out on this Mr. Ected Aug 2020 #51

Walleye

(31,035 posts)
1. Every time I vote my ballot says Democratic Party
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:20 PM
Aug 2020

I’ve never seen the Democrat party on any ballot. Getting someone’s name right is the minimum respect you can give. That’s why they keep trying to mispronounce Kamala

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,806 posts)
5. They've been doing that for years, since the Teabaggers took it over.
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:24 PM
Aug 2020

It's their charming way of emphasizing the word "rats." That's why they do it. We have our own words for them here on DU, but at least our spokespeople and elected officials have enough class not to use them in public.

still_one

(92,325 posts)
12. I think it is their way of messaging that the Democratic Party is not Democratic, which is ironic
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:28 PM
Aug 2020

since it is the Republican Party that is extremely intolerant of others

Demonaut

(8,924 posts)
6. it's insulting but could be
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:26 PM
Aug 2020

The democratic party is comprised mostly of "democrats" thus the democrat party by affiliation of said individuals
It's a stretch but these assholes stretch more than yoga instructors

sop

(10,226 posts)
11. I had a coworker who always said "Democrat party" because he wanted to be disrespectful.
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:28 PM
Aug 2020

I started calling the GOP the "Rapepublican party" (with deliberate emphasis on the first syllable) about the time Trump got elected. He didn't like it much.

caraher

(6,279 posts)
15. It goes back a very long way
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:36 PM
Aug 2020

and when I lived in rural Indiana there were some Democrats who would say it as well; they'd heard it enough that it sounded correct to them!

dmr

(28,349 posts)
38. That's very true. Today I corrected someone on Twitter.
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 09:39 PM
Aug 2020

Their Tweet was pro Biden which told me this person didn't know any better. They've heard it so much, they thought it was correct. I just politely let them know the usage was a right wing slur.

Hopefully they saw it, as well as others who may not know or were unsure.

A couple of years ago, I corrected a Lawrence O'Donnell tweet. The next night he smiled as he said it correctly. I knew that smile was for my Tweet. I smiled back from my living room, lol.

Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
16. It's exactly the same tone used by bigots when..
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:38 PM
Aug 2020

instead of saying something "He's a Jewish banker" they say "He's a Jew banker." It's a blatantly prejudicial use of language, and it annoys the living hell out of me.

Ms. Toad

(34,085 posts)
20. A lot of very strong Democrats in rural America, as well as less educated Democrats
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 07:04 PM
Aug 2020

also refer to it as the Democrat party.

The Republicans are doing it deliberately to yank our chains becuase they know it gets a reaction - and, frankly - making a big deal of it is not worth the potential insult to rural/less educated Democrats who do the same thing.

Ms. Toad

(34,085 posts)
30. Transparent that I grew up in a small cluster of Democrats
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 09:21 PM
Aug 2020

in a less well-educated, rural part of the country which resulted in a broader variety of Democrats than the coastal snobbish Democrats are likely to encounter? Yep.

This is not a battle worth fighting - and if you choose to fight it you're attacking Democrats as well.

Ms. Toad

(34,085 posts)
34. Not trying to fool anyone.
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 09:24 PM
Aug 2020

Just standing up for Democrats I've loved all my life, who don't happen to be grammar superstars.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
37. No one's criticizing Dems who use it. They're calling out Republicans who use it as pejorative
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 09:33 PM
Aug 2020

This isn't about mispronunciation by people, but the Republicans' intentional and long-standing effort to mock and ridicule Democrats by purposely calling us out of our names. Two different things.

But this isn't the first time the propensity to step in and defend/explain/justify Republican behavior has been noted.

Ms. Toad

(34,085 posts)
43. When you call out Republicans who use it, you are inherently calling out anyone who uses the term.
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 09:44 PM
Aug 2020

I'm not defending Republicans - I'm criticizing Democrats who are acting in an elitist condescending manner toward speech that is common among rural and/or less educated Democrats.

Just as you can't use gay as an insult without slamming those of us who are gay, you can't slam people for using a phrase that is pretty common in certain Democratic communities without slamming the Democrats in those communities.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
45. Don't be ridiculous
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 09:59 PM
Aug 2020

If I criticize a man for calling a woman a "bitch," I am not "inherently calling out anyone" who has difficulty speaking English and pronounces "beach" as "bitch."

Republicans who use the term "Democrat" as an adjective aren't having difficulty with speech. They are using the term as an intentional insult.

As I said, two different things.

Ms. Toad

(34,085 posts)
48. And when you call Trump fat, you're not insulting other fat people
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 02:19 AM
Aug 2020

Or when you call Trump or Pence gay, you're not insulting other gay people

It doesn't work that way. When you ridicule someone for using an incorrect phrase, everyone who uses that phrase and hears your ridiculs feels the impact of your words.

Aristus

(66,436 posts)
35. I don't think it's elitist or snobbish for people to be able to remember one single
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 09:25 PM
Aug 2020

syllable.

If they have a tough time with a four-syllable word, they should probably just not speak at all.

Aristus

(66,436 posts)
46. No. It's normal.
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 10:05 PM
Aug 2020

I'm sick and tired of the below-average half of the country deciding what's an acceptable level of acceptable.

Ms. Toad

(34,085 posts)
47. So you believe people, including Democrats, who are not as well educated as you
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 02:17 AM
Aug 2020

deserve to be ridiculed?

Is it really that important that they get an adjective wrong? Does it somehow impair your ability to understand them? I'm as picky as they come in an academic setting, but I don't apply those standards to real life. If what they are trying to communicate is understandable, outside of academia that's all that matters.

jcgoldie

(11,636 posts)
52. The only reason any Democrat would use the term is because they have appropriated it from...
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 08:06 AM
Aug 2020

...from people whose intent was to redefine the Democratic Party in a negative light. I live in the rural Midwest and I have never heard this term uttered by a Democrat or almost anyone with sincerity... only by Republicans as an aspersion or occasionally by people pretending to be Democrats to subvert the conversation. Occasionally someone will show up here in DU and using that word as an adjective is like a bright neon sign signifying an impostor. Calling it what it is does not offend the 'poor ignorant Democrats in the country who don't talk proper English'... If anything here is "elitist" then its that argument.

Ms. Toad

(34,085 posts)
53. That term has been in use, in rural America, since the 70s.
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 03:25 PM
Aug 2020

I grew up in rural Nebraska and a fair number of them say Democrat party rather than Democratic. They aren't fancy people. Many of the ones I'm thinking of didn't complete high school, and most didn't go to college. I am speaking from experience - and not experience after the Republicans latched onto the fact that thye could yank our chains.

electric_blue68

(14,923 posts)
44. In the '70's?! Far as I know it was a tatic by Newt...
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 09:54 PM
Aug 2020

... Gingrich to show disrespect along with a big jump in really nasty vitriolic verbage in describing Democrats.

I don't really hate many people - he's one along with drumph, MoscowMitch & Ghouliani.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
51. You are absolutely correct, the media needs to call them out on this
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 07:55 AM
Aug 2020

Over and over and over again.

It's an indication of how useless the modern media is, failing to correct a subtle yet obvious dig at the Democratic Party. They've enabled this, make no mistake.

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