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SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 09:46 PM Aug 2020

Chump's latest scam, oleander oil, is VERY TOXIC!

https://www.drugs.com/npp/oleander.html#:~:text=Toxicology,lethargy%2C%20hepatotoxicity%2C%20and%20nephrotoxicity.

Toxicology
Oleander is extremely toxic and potentially fatal. Major toxicity reports include disturbances in heart rhythm and death. Signs of toxicity include severe nausea, emesis, abdominal pain, cramping, diarrhea, hyperkalemia, hypertension, lethargy, hepatotoxicity, and nephrotoxicity. Oleander intoxication can negatively impact the lungs, kidneys, spleen, and muscle tissue. Intoxication can occur from ingestion, or from inhalation of smoke from burned plants.

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Chump's latest scam, oleander oil, is VERY TOXIC! (Original Post) SheltieLover Aug 2020 OP
It's has beautiful flowers and is all over the Phoenix61 Aug 2020 #1
I will look the plant up. I live in North Central Florida. I have heard the name Blue_true Aug 2020 #4
OMG! SheltieLover Aug 2020 #10
Oleander is a decorative bush, grows commonly in the SW...yes very toxic Thekaspervote Aug 2020 #16
Ty! SheltieLover Aug 2020 #17
They might be in Memphis LeftInTX Aug 2020 #59
I rescued a baby lizard off the hood the other day. Phoenix61 Aug 2020 #33
Awwww poor thing! SheltieLover Aug 2020 #34
Same in S GA. We recently put in some new plantings around the house. crickets Aug 2020 #23
Glad you avoided it! SheltieLover Aug 2020 #37
A family friend landed in the hospital, comatose for week, after breathing oleander pollen. eppur_se_muova Aug 2020 #2
Sorry to hear! SheltieLover Aug 2020 #11
She's recovered from the condition, but lost much of her posessions while in the hospital. eppur_se_muova Aug 2020 #55
that was the reason agingdem Aug 2020 #3
Bon Appetite.... magicarpet Aug 2020 #5
Fine by me, too! SheltieLover Aug 2020 #12
Glad they banned this in your town! SheltieLover Aug 2020 #18
Have some pretty pink flowers! CountAllVotes Aug 2020 #6
They're really pretty! SheltieLover Aug 2020 #13
They really aren't all that pretty LeftInTX Aug 2020 #48
Oh SheltieLover Aug 2020 #49
Holy crap, I think those are the flowers that grew... Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2020 #20
My Dad grew a bunch of them CountAllVotes Aug 2020 #32
Oh God what's he done now? renate Aug 2020 #7
but if he and his reptilian family agingdem Aug 2020 #9
Lolol SheltieLover Aug 2020 #19
Yup! SheltieLover Aug 2020 #14
Never a dull moment, eh? mr_lebowski Aug 2020 #47
Deadly like a night shade ampm Aug 2020 #8
Yikes! SheltieLover Aug 2020 #15
Goats eat poison ivy too. AllyCat Aug 2020 #21
Wow! SheltieLover Aug 2020 #22
In some areas you can rent goats to clean up your yard. Klaralven Aug 2020 #25
Yes, NC is one of them SheltieLover Aug 2020 #26
These are some nasty suckers to even Wellstone ruled Aug 2020 #24
Omg! SheltieLover Aug 2020 #27
So this is Mike the Pillow Guy's Wellstone ruled Aug 2020 #38
They sell them in Texas LeftInTX Aug 2020 #50
Deadly poisonous to horses too Bayard Aug 2020 #56
I did not know this about yews LeftInTX Aug 2020 #58
In the movie "White Oleander" Heartstrings Aug 2020 #28
Wondering if putin's "vaccine" is oleander? SheltieLover Aug 2020 #29
I was just going to post that. nolabear Aug 2020 #30
"Great minds" SheltieLover Aug 2020 #39
As well as in the novel marybourg Aug 2020 #42
Popular garden plant, very pretty, but all parts are poisonous in any form. PLEASE LINK to news item Hekate Aug 2020 #31
The Daily Beast say it is 'DUBIOUS' LeftInTX Aug 2020 #53
Thank you very much. On edit: Business Insider is now carrying the story... Hekate Aug 2020 #57
Looks like they're using Axios as their source, though. n/t sl8 Aug 2020 #67
Articles aren't mentioning toxicity of plant tapper Aug 2020 #35
Here is link SheltieLover Aug 2020 #45
Please...What does this have to do with Chump? Totally Tunsie Aug 2020 #36
He & Pillow Guy, who has interest in oleander oil company SheltieLover Aug 2020 #41
Oh, FFS! Totally Tunsie Aug 2020 #43
Here is link to other post SheltieLover Aug 2020 #44
Thanks! Interesting. Totally Tunsie Aug 2020 #54
LOL, the Trumpster at work will be pushing this bullshit the next time I see him RhodeIslandOne Aug 2020 #40
Maybe SheltieLover Aug 2020 #46
Someone should make certain it's part of his daily regimen. nt Ilsa Aug 2020 #51
Lol SheltieLover Aug 2020 #52
White Oleander is the title of a famous book and movie. Withywindle Aug 2020 #60
I wonder if that's what is in putin's "vaccine?" SheltieLover Aug 2020 #61
Shades of Jonestown Withywindle Aug 2020 #62
Yup! SheltieLover Aug 2020 #63
I literally was coming here to mention the book and movie! obamanut2012 Aug 2020 #66
Jonathan Swan is talking about it on M$NBComcast right now malaise Aug 2020 #64
Locking up chump is WAY past due! SheltieLover Aug 2020 #65

Phoenix61

(17,006 posts)
1. It's has beautiful flowers and is all over the
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 09:49 PM
Aug 2020

place in Florida. Some people have sadly used its stalks for roasting marshmallows. Did not turn out well. I refuse to plant it.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
4. I will look the plant up. I live in North Central Florida. I have heard the name
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 10:00 PM
Aug 2020

but don’t know what the plant looks like.

I read an article earlier this week where people were consuming FULL strength essential oils like Tea Tree Oil and Yang-Ylang. That is Fing insane. I would not even consume heavily diluted Tea Tree Oil, but it is great for some topical uses in diluted form.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
10. OMG!
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 10:20 PM
Aug 2020

I don't know what it looks like, but I never touch plants, except for occasionally hugging a tree.

The area I live in is like Jurrasic Park. For gawd's sake, there are small lizzards in my yard!

Thekaspervote

(32,778 posts)
16. Oleander is a decorative bush, grows commonly in the SW...yes very toxic
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 10:24 PM
Aug 2020

Commonly used to poison someone in the 19th century

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
17. Ty!
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 10:27 PM
Aug 2020

Doubt it's here in Memphis region then. I never touch plants though.

Hell, I put big rubber boots on to walk out in yard. It's like living in Jurrasic Park here. I have small lizzards & weird bugs in yard.

LeftInTX

(25,383 posts)
59. They might be in Memphis
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 02:49 AM
Aug 2020

Although they tend to be more popular in dry climates. They are native to North Africa.


I don't quite understand their popularity in Florida, unless you wanna grow something poisonous.

Seems like they are hardy to about 10 degrees.

Phoenix61

(17,006 posts)
33. I rescued a baby lizard off the hood the other day.
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 11:21 PM
Aug 2020

I got a little ways down the road and say this teeny tiny little lizard clinging to the hood. Pulled over and tried to catch him. He ended up on my shirt but I was able to coax him to jump on to a shrub.

crickets

(25,981 posts)
23. Same in S GA. We recently put in some new plantings around the house.
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 10:40 PM
Aug 2020

Oleander is a favorite of mine, but we just couldn't do it. The dogs can't be trusted not to find a dead stick, and we have nieces and nephews who have started having babies. The risk of those children randomly chewing on the leaves was too great. All of our hedges and yard plants are non-toxic because you never know.

That Needy Amin is suggesting a toxic common yard plant as a Covid cure makes my blood run cold. That he's suggesting a toxic plant that grows rampant in the South is just dumb. Go for your base again, dude.

It's fairly well known that oleander is poison. Here's hoping local people warn one another enough to stop tragedy.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
37. Glad you avoided it!
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 11:28 PM
Aug 2020

I'm wondering if putin's "vaccine" is oleander based. 🤬

I hope people know better!

Even the pollen is super toxic. Why would anyone sell such a plant?

eppur_se_muova

(36,269 posts)
2. A family friend landed in the hospital, comatose for week, after breathing oleander pollen.
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 09:51 PM
Aug 2020

She had just been trimming the bushes back, but hadn't worn a mask. It really ruined her life. Those plants are damned toxic.

eppur_se_muova

(36,269 posts)
55. She's recovered from the condition, but lost much of her posessions while in the hospital.
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 01:10 AM
Aug 2020

She's now in a nursing home.

agingdem

(7,850 posts)
3. that was the reason
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 09:55 PM
Aug 2020

Last edited Mon Aug 17, 2020, 03:26 AM - Edit history (1)

why oleanders were banned in my small Texas town...but if Trump and his family want to chow down on oleanders that would be ok with me...

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,855 posts)
20. Holy crap, I think those are the flowers that grew...
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 10:32 PM
Aug 2020

... in my grandfather's back yard! That pic certainly looks a lot like them, based on my memory as a kid.

He always had a big garden of vegetables (after selling his farm to move to a suburb), but also those pink flowers that were almost like a "privacy fence" between him and the neighbor property.

They never made me ill, as far as I know, but it's not like I lingered around them either.

Edit: Just read that they're indeed used as privacy fences by some people.
Thanks for the warning, gramps! What if me and my cousins had put those flowers in our mouths like dumb kids might do?

CountAllVotes

(20,876 posts)
32. My Dad grew a bunch of them
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 11:19 PM
Aug 2020

However, my mother got really sick from them!

He dug them up and got rid of them, I remember that much.

Pretty yes but deadly!!

BEWARE !!!!



agingdem

(7,850 posts)
9. but if he and his reptilian family
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 10:13 PM
Aug 2020

want to consume oleander salad followed by an after dinner fish tank water palate cleanser I'd love to be the waiter to serve them...

ampm

(301 posts)
8. Deadly like a night shade
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 10:10 PM
Aug 2020

Oh yes, it's deadly grew up around them. Never touch them. I only saw goats eat them it was a big wow!

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
26. Yes, NC is one of them
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 10:58 PM
Aug 2020

I used to have clients with rebtal goats.

Doubt they rent them here though. But ty!

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
24. These are some nasty suckers to even
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 10:54 PM
Aug 2020

be near. Here in the South west most Cities have band the planting of Oleanders. Yes the Green Houses still sell them as well as the DIY Stores,but local ordinances ban planting.

Some lazy idiot cut down his Oleanders and rather than dispose of them via the Trash,dumped them in a Neighbors Pasture and Cows will eat these suckers like Chocolate. This neighbor lost all Eight of his Cows with in less than a day.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
27. Omg!
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 11:00 PM
Aug 2020


Guessing jerk wasn't arrested...

Wondering if this is what's in Putin's vaccine & chump is opening the door to import it.

LeftInTX

(25,383 posts)
50. They sell them in Texas
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 11:45 PM
Aug 2020

But they get a bacterial blight here. They have gone out of favor due to the blight.

Bayard

(22,100 posts)
56. Deadly poisonous to horses too
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 01:59 AM
Aug 2020

Same for Yew shrubs. Although most of the time, horses will only eat something like that if there's nothing else to eat.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
39. "Great minds"
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 11:30 PM
Aug 2020

Why don't you start a thread on this? Serious concern for sure, especially as there are medical uses for parts of the plant!

marybourg

(12,633 posts)
42. As well as in the novel
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 11:33 PM
Aug 2020

Dragonwyck, written by the American author Anya Seton, which was first published in 1944. Later made into a movie.

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
31. Popular garden plant, very pretty, but all parts are poisonous in any form. PLEASE LINK to news item
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 11:17 PM
Aug 2020

...about Trump’s connection to this. I remain very confused.

LeftInTX

(25,383 posts)
53. The Daily Beast say it is 'DUBIOUS'
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 11:53 PM
Aug 2020
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-pushing-new-unproven-plant-extract-as-covid-19-treatment-report

I kinda doubt this will go anywhere. I have no idea if Trump even used the word oleander in a sentence or anything. He didn't tweet anything about it. And this meeting happened in July. (Which is a million years ago in Trump's universe)
The only source is Axios. There is no evidence that Trump is promoting it. He probably doesn't know what it is.

https://www.axios.com/newsletters/axios-sneak-peek-e47f79a5-96aa-4931-9856-34d9fefec0c3.html?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_axiossneakpeek&stream=top

tapper

(141 posts)
35. Articles aren't mentioning toxicity of plant
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 11:27 PM
Aug 2020

Scanned several articles, none of which mention toxicity of the plant. One supposes that the extract, oleandrin, might or might not be toxic, But anyone who hears the news, and equates the plant to the extract... damnit! Why the hell are people people acting like it’s two centuries ago, listening to the traveling quacks and their supposed cures... and five more months before we can get the gullible liar himself out of power...

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
41. He & Pillow Guy, who has interest in oleander oil company
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 11:31 PM
Aug 2020

Are reportedly beginning to push oleander oil for covid!

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
40. LOL, the Trumpster at work will be pushing this bullshit the next time I see him
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 11:31 PM
Aug 2020

Anything Trump says about fighting COVID, this guy fucking buys right into.

Withywindle

(9,988 posts)
60. White Oleander is the title of a famous book and movie.
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 03:51 AM
Aug 2020

It's a murder mystery and also a family drama.

White Oleander was the murder weapon. It's so highly toxic it's very easy to kill someone with it.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
61. I wonder if that's what is in putin's "vaccine?"
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 05:40 AM
Aug 2020

There are medical uses for parts of the plant.

Yes, it is very very toxic!

Withywindle

(9,988 posts)
62. Shades of Jonestown
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 05:44 AM
Aug 2020

Just saying.

They pushed the HDQ "cure," which is complete quack medicine that doesn't help - but big campaign donors invested in it, so they keep pushing it.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
63. Yup!
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 05:49 AM
Aug 2020

It's beyond me why chump's ass os not rotting in jail for practicing medicine without a license!

Ridiculous why anyone would listen to that pos.

malaise

(269,056 posts)
64. Jonathan Swan is talking about it on M$NBComcast right now
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 05:58 AM
Aug 2020

Says there was no one from FDA at the Con's meeting discussing the use of this plant extract.
Seriously lock up this lunatic.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
65. Locking up chump is WAY past due!
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 06:01 AM
Aug 2020

Ty so much for sharing about this.

There are medical uses for parts of the plant, but not a good idea to be spewing nonsense about this highly toxic plant!

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