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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsChump's latest scam, oleander oil, is VERY TOXIC!
https://www.drugs.com/npp/oleander.html#:~:text=Toxicology,lethargy%2C%20hepatotoxicity%2C%20and%20nephrotoxicity.Toxicology
Oleander is extremely toxic and potentially fatal. Major toxicity reports include disturbances in heart rhythm and death. Signs of toxicity include severe nausea, emesis, abdominal pain, cramping, diarrhea, hyperkalemia, hypertension, lethargy, hepatotoxicity, and nephrotoxicity. Oleander intoxication can negatively impact the lungs, kidneys, spleen, and muscle tissue. Intoxication can occur from ingestion, or from inhalation of smoke from burned plants.
More at link.
Phoenix61
(17,006 posts)place in Florida. Some people have sadly used its stalks for roasting marshmallows. Did not turn out well. I refuse to plant it.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)but dont know what the plant looks like.
I read an article earlier this week where people were consuming FULL strength essential oils like Tea Tree Oil and Yang-Ylang. That is Fing insane. I would not even consume heavily diluted Tea Tree Oil, but it is great for some topical uses in diluted form.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)I don't know what it looks like, but I never touch plants, except for occasionally hugging a tree.
The area I live in is like Jurrasic Park. For gawd's sake, there are small lizzards in my yard!
Thekaspervote
(32,778 posts)Commonly used to poison someone in the 19th century
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Doubt it's here in Memphis region then. I never touch plants though.
Hell, I put big rubber boots on to walk out in yard. It's like living in Jurrasic Park here. I have small lizzards & weird bugs in yard.
LeftInTX
(25,383 posts)Although they tend to be more popular in dry climates. They are native to North Africa.
I don't quite understand their popularity in Florida, unless you wanna grow something poisonous.
Seems like they are hardy to about 10 degrees.
Phoenix61
(17,006 posts)I got a little ways down the road and say this teeny tiny little lizard clinging to the hood. Pulled over and tried to catch him. He ended up on my shirt but I was able to coax him to jump on to a shrub.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)I'm glad you were able to rescue him. I have zero desire to interact with them.
crickets
(25,981 posts)Oleander is a favorite of mine, but we just couldn't do it. The dogs can't be trusted not to find a dead stick, and we have nieces and nephews who have started having babies. The risk of those children randomly chewing on the leaves was too great. All of our hedges and yard plants are non-toxic because you never know.
That Needy Amin is suggesting a toxic common yard plant as a Covid cure makes my blood run cold. That he's suggesting a toxic plant that grows rampant in the South is just dumb. Go for your base again, dude.
It's fairly well known that oleander is poison. Here's hoping local people warn one another enough to stop tragedy.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)I'm wondering if putin's "vaccine" is oleander based. 🤬
I hope people know better!
Even the pollen is super toxic. Why would anyone sell such a plant?
eppur_se_muova
(36,269 posts)She had just been trimming the bushes back, but hadn't worn a mask. It really ruined her life. Those plants are damned toxic.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)I have to look up images.
Sounds awful. Is friend ok now?
eppur_se_muova
(36,269 posts)She's now in a nursing home.
agingdem
(7,850 posts)Last edited Mon Aug 17, 2020, 03:26 AM - Edit history (1)
why oleanders were banned in my small Texas town...but if Trump and his family want to chow down on oleanders that would be ok with me...
magicarpet
(14,155 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)By all means!
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)CountAllVotes
(20,876 posts)After all what do you have to lose?
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)LeftInTX
(25,383 posts)They are kinda willowy looking.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)I was looking at one in full bloom. Ty!
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,855 posts)... in my grandfather's back yard! That pic certainly looks a lot like them, based on my memory as a kid.
He always had a big garden of vegetables (after selling his farm to move to a suburb), but also those pink flowers that were almost like a "privacy fence" between him and the neighbor property.
They never made me ill, as far as I know, but it's not like I lingered around them either.
Edit: Just read that they're indeed used as privacy fences by some people.
Thanks for the warning, gramps! What if me and my cousins had put those flowers in our mouths like dumb kids might do?
CountAllVotes
(20,876 posts)However, my mother got really sick from them!
He dug them up and got rid of them, I remember that much.
Pretty yes but deadly!!
BEWARE !!!!
renate
(13,776 posts)I step away from the Internet for an hour and hes pushing oleander oil?
agingdem
(7,850 posts)want to consume oleander salad followed by an after dinner fish tank water palate cleanser I'd love to be the waiter to serve them...
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Could sell tickets to that event. 🤣👍
With Pillow guy.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)Too bad it's never a not-f***ing-evil-and-stupid moment.
ampm
(301 posts)Oh yes, it's deadly grew up around them. Never touch them. I only saw goats eat them it was a big wow!
Were the goats ok? 😳
AllyCat
(16,189 posts)Some resistance I guess.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)I didn't know that! Ty for sharing.
I have poison ivy & oak in yard.
Klaralven
(7,510 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)I used to have clients with rebtal goats.
Doubt they rent them here though. But ty!
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)be near. Here in the South west most Cities have band the planting of Oleanders. Yes the Green Houses still sell them as well as the DIY Stores,but local ordinances ban planting.
Some lazy idiot cut down his Oleanders and rather than dispose of them via the Trash,dumped them in a Neighbors Pasture and Cows will eat these suckers like Chocolate. This neighbor lost all Eight of his Cows with in less than a day.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Guessing jerk wasn't arrested...
Wondering if this is what's in Putin's vaccine & chump is opening the door to import it.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)new found gig. But then Mike loved to peddle crap .
LeftInTX
(25,383 posts)But they get a bacterial blight here. They have gone out of favor due to the blight.
Bayard
(22,100 posts)Same for Yew shrubs. Although most of the time, horses will only eat something like that if there's nothing else to eat.
LeftInTX
(25,383 posts)Heartstrings
(7,349 posts)The Oleander plant is indeed used to murder someone.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Putin has wanted the "big farm" (usa) for a long time.
nolabear
(41,987 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Why don't you start a thread on this? Serious concern for sure, especially as there are medical uses for parts of the plant!
marybourg
(12,633 posts)Dragonwyck, written by the American author Anya Seton, which was first published in 1944. Later made into a movie.
Hekate
(90,714 posts)...about Trumps connection to this. I remain very confused.
LeftInTX
(25,383 posts)I kinda doubt this will go anywhere. I have no idea if Trump even used the word oleander in a sentence or anything. He didn't tweet anything about it. And this meeting happened in July. (Which is a million years ago in Trump's universe)
The only source is Axios. There is no evidence that Trump is promoting it. He probably doesn't know what it is.
https://www.axios.com/newsletters/axios-sneak-peek-e47f79a5-96aa-4931-9856-34d9fefec0c3.html?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_axiossneakpeek&stream=top
Hekate
(90,714 posts)sl8
(13,789 posts)tapper
(141 posts)Scanned several articles, none of which mention toxicity of the plant. One supposes that the extract, oleandrin, might or might not be toxic, But anyone who hears the news, and equates the plant to the extract... damnit! Why the hell are people people acting like its two centuries ago, listening to the traveling quacks and their supposed cures... and five more months before we can get the gullible liar himself out of power...
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Totally Tunsie
(10,885 posts)What is his scam?
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Are reportedly beginning to push oleander oil for covid!
Totally Tunsie
(10,885 posts)Thanks for the update!
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Totally Tunsie
(10,885 posts)RhodeIslandOne
(5,042 posts)Anything Trump says about fighting COVID, this guy fucking buys right into.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)You'll get to see natural selection in real time!
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)Withywindle
(9,988 posts)It's a murder mystery and also a family drama.
White Oleander was the murder weapon. It's so highly toxic it's very easy to kill someone with it.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)There are medical uses for parts of the plant.
Yes, it is very very toxic!
Withywindle
(9,988 posts)Just saying.
They pushed the HDQ "cure," which is complete quack medicine that doesn't help - but big campaign donors invested in it, so they keep pushing it.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)It's beyond me why chump's ass os not rotting in jail for practicing medicine without a license!
Ridiculous why anyone would listen to that pos.
obamanut2012
(26,080 posts)The movie is rather underrated imo.
malaise
(269,056 posts)Says there was no one from FDA at the Con's meeting discussing the use of this plant extract.
Seriously lock up this lunatic.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Ty so much for sharing about this.
There are medical uses for parts of the plant, but not a good idea to be spewing nonsense about this highly toxic plant!