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USPS Whistleblower (Original Post) Nevilledog Aug 2020 OP
Could you summarize for us deafies please? Thanks. nt tblue37 Aug 2020 #1
He says mail volume is way down, and he thinks there is a holdup somewhere. Midnight Writer Aug 2020 #4
Thank you! nt tblue37 Aug 2020 #6
He also says that there is a lull in the mail volume, that it isn't reaching sorting centers. crickets Aug 2020 #11
Thank you. nt tblue37 Aug 2020 #15
You're welcome! crickets Aug 2020 #17
Did I understand him correctly that dmr Aug 2020 #2
I Buy Items From E-Bay And I Watch The Package Tracking Feature And Been Noticing..... global1 Aug 2020 #5
Watching a package right now. rog Aug 2020 #14
I've seen weird stuff in tracking, too. Same as what you two are reporting. Silver Gaia Aug 2020 #19
I sold and shipped many eBay packages before leaving the USA sanatanadharma Aug 2020 #21
This fellow is in trouble if he is on the clock. Looks like he is checking in at end of route. Midnight Writer Aug 2020 #3
Not sure how the Hatch Act applies, he's not advocating for a candidate is he? nt mr_lebowski Aug 2020 #7
I'm sure he won't be prosecuted, but I predict disciplinary action. Midnight Writer Aug 2020 #9
lol Hatch Act obamanut2012 Aug 2020 #20
Rt! Cha Aug 2020 #8
It appears he is in violation because of the uniform. AnnaLee Aug 2020 #10
That's a shame. He probably doesn't realize. crickets Aug 2020 #12
Present day . .. Iliyah Aug 2020 #13
I thought trump and crew negated the hatch act for now. Tech Aug 2020 #16
a know, I've been wondering where the PO facilities thast are being tampered with. It's no napi21 Aug 2020 #18
Kicking for the daytime crowd. nt crickets Aug 2020 #22

Midnight Writer

(21,768 posts)
4. He says mail volume is way down, and he thinks there is a holdup somewhere.
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 12:48 AM
Aug 2020

Perhaps in a central processing plant. He goes on to say The Postal Service would be fine if the politicians left it alone.

He hopes they can hold on til November, implying things will change then.

He talks about his job, and how his customers rely on him.

crickets

(25,981 posts)
11. He also says that there is a lull in the mail volume, that it isn't reaching sorting centers.
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 01:20 AM
Aug 2020

"Tell me what you're seeing right now."

"There is a lull - l u l l - in the mail volume. The whole thing is just a -- they're trying to shut us down so that people can't vote, just basically trying to take away people's Constitutional right to vote... to rig the election. That's all this is about. The postal service is fine. If they let us into our business, the postal service is fine. We just have to make it to November to take back control. So people can vote."

"What have you seen in your district?"

"The main thing is just the volume of mail, the first class is down, people are saying they're not getting their mail. I haven't had a whole lot of that, but, but... We don't know where the mail's at. The mail's out there somewhere. The mail is there. It's just not coming to us. They're shutting down our sorting plants and it's just making it harder for people to get their mail."

"What do you think people should do right now?"

"I'm not real sure there is anything people can do. Just vote. Get out there. Go online and get your mail in ballots and vote. Vote before they have a chance to take it away from you."

"What do you think is the role of the Postal Service in democracy?"

"We're the everyday people. We see everything. We see what's going on, we help. Like you said, your former carrier, she would help people. We notice if somebody's sick or somebody hasn't gotten their mail. We know there's an alarm. We know to look. There have been times when I've called to have a safety check, checked on people because they haven't gotten their mail. I had a man in ____, had to call the fire dept to come in and help him out. Had a house blow up from a gas leak. We see everything. We see what's going on in the community. Most of us will take the time to get to know people. Just to know people's habits so you know if something's wrong.

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Mail carriers do not get enough credit -- not only for doing their job delivering the mail, but for being community sentinels and taking the time and care to go above and beyond their job to serve their communities.

Thank you, USPS!

crickets

(25,981 posts)
17. You're welcome!
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 01:45 AM
Aug 2020

He was pretty amazing and sincere so I wouldn't want anybody to miss what he had to say.

dmr

(28,347 posts)
2. Did I understand him correctly that
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 12:27 AM
Aug 2020

they are not getting the mail at the local post offices from the distribution centers?

So, where is our mail?

Obstructing or interfering with the mail is a crime.

global1

(25,253 posts)
5. I Buy Items From E-Bay And I Watch The Package Tracking Feature And Been Noticing.....
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 12:57 AM
Aug 2020

that packages sit for days at a distribution center before they're moved on. It used to be that - sometimes the same day if the package arrived early enough - or on the next day - the packages would move out of a distribution center to one closer to my house where the package would be delivered. Not any more. It might be 3 or 4 days before a package gets out of a distribution center now.

The other odd thing I noticed is sometimes the package arrives at a distribution center closer to my house and sits there a couple of days - before it is transferred to a distribution center much further away - and then ultimately is sent back to the one closest to my house.

E-Bay packages are taking a lot longer to be delivered than at the beginning of this year.

Has anyone else seen this type of delaying?

rog

(649 posts)
14. Watching a package right now.
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 01:32 AM
Aug 2020

Package I am tracking arrived at my local post office (2 miles from my house) on Friday morning. I thought 'maybe' delivery Saturday, or Monday for sure. Friday evening it was 'accepted' at a post office 30 miles west, where it sits right now. I'm waiting to see what happens tomorrow morning, but not holding my breath for a Monday delivery. We'll see where it goes next.

I have never seen this before.

♫rog♫

Silver Gaia

(4,544 posts)
19. I've seen weird stuff in tracking, too. Same as what you two are reporting.
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 02:56 AM
Aug 2020

I had one package sit in a distribution center in Illinois for SIX DAYS before it moved, and then it sat for THREE more days locally. The most time a USPS package took to get to me in the past, even just a few weeks ago, was about 3 days cross country.

sanatanadharma

(3,707 posts)
21. I sold and shipped many eBay packages before leaving the USA
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 09:38 AM
Aug 2020

I left the shit-hole country of my birth in early 2018. For several years before, as I reduced my 27-year sedentary life to 3 suitcases, I sold a lot of my 'stuff' via eBay.

The USPS service then was always great. Priority packages and first class mail tracking and delivery times were as guaranteed.
A couple of times deliveries were completed before tracking caught up, but nothing was lose, ruined or late.

Midnight Writer

(21,768 posts)
3. This fellow is in trouble if he is on the clock. Looks like he is checking in at end of route.
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 12:41 AM
Aug 2020

He is deviating from his duties and probably violating The Hatch Act.

The Postal Service takes these things seriously.

Midnight Writer

(21,768 posts)
9. I'm sure he won't be prosecuted, but I predict disciplinary action.
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 01:13 AM
Aug 2020

The Post Office doesn't pay you to stand around and chat, and his Supervisor will review this and may conclude this is political speech. Also, his Supervisor will be super pissed because this guy is bringing heat down on him/her. Postal Supervisors tend to stack on the charges.

I hope this Carrier has a clean discipline record.

AnnaLee

(1,041 posts)
10. It appears he is in violation because of the uniform.
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 01:14 AM
Aug 2020

If he were wearing civilian clothes and expressing an opinion (and probably even an observation) he would have been in a lot better shape.

https://about.usps.com/postal-bulletin/2008/html/pb22239/html/ElectMailkit_010.html

The Hatch Act — Permitted and Prohibited Activities for Employees
The Hatch Act is a federal law that restricts the political activity of federal and Postal Service employees while on duty, on government property, wearing an official uniform, or using a government vehicle. It also prohibits candidates campaigning for election to public office on leased or owned postal property.

Under the Hatch Act, Postal Service employees may:
Be candidates for public office in nonpartisan elections.
Register and vote as they choose.
Assist in voter registration drives.
Express opinions about candidates and issues.
Contribute money to political organizations.
Attend political fundraising functions.
Attend and be active at political rallies and meetings.
Join and be an active member of a political party or club.
Sign nominating petitions.
Campaign for or against referendum questions, con­stitutional amendments, and municipal ordinances.
Campaign for or against candidates in partisan elections.
Make speeches for candidates in partisan elections.
Distribute campaign literature in partisan elections.
Hold office in political clubs or parties.

Postal Service employees may not:
Use official authority or influence to interfere with an election.
Solicit, receive, or collect political contributions unless both individuals are members of the same federal labor organization or employee organization, and the one solicited is not a subordinate employee.
Knowingly solicit or discourage the political activity of any person who has business before the agency.
Engage in political activity while on duty, wearing an official uniform, using a government vehicle, or in any government office.
Solicit political contributions from the general public.
Solicit or receive political contributions.
Be candidates for public office in partisan elections.
Wear political buttons on duty.

Ignorance of the law is not an excuse. More information on the Hatch Act can be obtained at www.osc.gov/hatchact.htm.

crickets

(25,981 posts)
12. That's a shame. He probably doesn't realize.
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 01:25 AM
Aug 2020

I truly hope he doesn't get in trouble because he sounds like one of the really good employees, the kind you want to keep because they do a great job and they really care.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
13. Present day . ..
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 01:26 AM
Aug 2020

Who in this administration complies with rules or the rule of law, name one . .

napi21

(45,806 posts)
18. a know, I've been wondering where the PO facilities thast are being tampered with. It's no
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 01:54 AM
Aug 2020

surprise that it's at the sorting & distribution centers. Thst's where they'd get the biggest effect for the least amount og tampering. I don't want people to suffer because of these JA's but I really want them to prove to the American voters that DT's behind this whole mess. THAT would get a lot more people to vote against DT than anything we can do.

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