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HUGE STORY not getting much press. First time in USA history, the USA gov't controls stock prices. The Fed and Mnuchin are buying $1,250,000,000,000 (yep Trillions) of corporate bonds resulting in spikes in the stock prices of those companies."
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LakeVermilion
(1,042 posts)Make no deal. The country may be lost already.
SunSeeker
(51,574 posts)whistler162
(11,155 posts)not just some twit tweeting?
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/29/the-fed-is-buying-some-of-the-biggest-companies-bonds-raising-questions-over-why.html
"The Federal Reserve is continuing to buy corporate bonds, following up on a pledge it made in March.
Corporate America titans such as Microsoft, Apple and Home Depot have been among the beneficiaries.
Questions have been raised over moral hazard as the Fed buys debt from companies that dont seem to need the central banks help."
Remember back in 2008/2009 the Federal government's bailout of the auto industry bought a stake in that in that industry until they purchased it back from the feds.
Cha
(297,323 posts)wishstar
(5,270 posts)The recovery of the stock market was faltering despite the huge stimulus money provided earlier this year by Congress. All along the Fed and Mnuchin pulled out one trick after another each time there were drops in market until they ran out of tricks and came up with the corporate bond purchases to infuse massive amounts of money virtually interest-free with no strings attached to some of the largest companies, not just those like the airlines that were in trouble.
Big part of Repubs unwillingness for a 3rd stimulus is because the Fed has successfully kept market up with the huge corporate bailouts.
Other reason is that they want to force unemployed to be so desperate they have to take any job which will lower unemployment numbers to help keeper monster in WH.
ck4829
(35,077 posts)ashredux
(2,606 posts)Economics 101......
THERE IS NO FREE LUNCH
James48
(4,436 posts)They are a quasi-private entity, that is not directly controlled by the government. Yes, its members are appointed by the President for 14 year terms, but they dont take day to day direction from the executive branch.
Just saying-
Nay
(12,051 posts)duforsure
(11,885 posts)So he can brag and use it to claim how great his economy is, when in reality its not , and guess who pay for it, we will. When he loses he'll stop, use it as a weapon causing it to crash then to claim its from electing Biden and Democrats. trump will threaten the country and all Americans more until election day , then he'll get worse when he loses.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Disgusting pos.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)... will go nowhere, somethings wrong with the markets and all money folk know it.
kentuck
(111,103 posts)Yes, it has been happening.
It appears that much of the stimulus that was meant to save small businesses has been going to Wall Street to protect the stocks of big business.
And Trump gets to brag about the stock market.
duforsure
(11,885 posts)While nothing for the people starving them back to work ,, and he'll back lower wages, less benefits , less health care, and to weaken unions , then onto destroying Social Security , Medicare, and then to allow companies to drain and destroy pensions and their funds . We'll pay dearly for the trillions he's using for this, and it will be a lot more than we know now.
usaf-vet
(6,189 posts).... richer with the market manipulation using taxpayer $$$$ to bolster an otherwise failing economy? My guess would be the Trump insiders (grifters).
So when Biden wins he starts in a huge HOLE that Trump and his con men dug. The (Rs) will start screaming about the deficit.
This ruse is better known as the TWO SANTA CLAUSE THEORY.
When the republican are in charge the spend spend spend and raise the debt. Then when Democrats are in the WH the republicans whine about the deficit THEY increased.
See this posting for a complete explanation of this OLD republican ruse played over and over.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=13881187
reACTIONary
(5,770 posts)... the Fed is doing it's job. We don't want our economy to collapse, we don't want a panic, we don't want a death spiral.
Jarqui
(10,126 posts)a Trump casino - corrupt like his administration.
We know how his casinos end.
If Biden remains out front, they'll pull the plug on the bonds and tell voters it is Biden's fault.
Chainfire
(17,549 posts)keithbvadu2
(36,829 posts)cbdo2007
(9,213 posts)roamer65
(36,745 posts)Inflation will become a problem soon.
James48
(4,436 posts)The inflation is going to be in the price of stocks, not the prices of goods.
The economy does need a small amount of inflation anyway- we used to get that triggered by minimum wage increases every year back in the 60s, 70s and 80s.
Now we only get a minimum wage increase when Dems control both houses and the WH.
I hope that will be in January. We need to make a to-do list for the first 100 days, that includes some kind of a minimum wage boost, as well as other things.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)Then we will get a whole gob of inflation at once.
bluestarone
(16,976 posts)Will have an ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE task when they win in Nov.! putin and RUMP, (with the help of EVERY RETHUGLICON senators) will Have this great country on it's knees! We know the stock market crash coming will DESTROY us. (my thoughts here) Gonna take GREAT SKILL to save us!!
dalton99a
(81,516 posts)Amishman
(5,557 posts)If the bonds are previously issued, their changing hands has no impact on the parent company.
If they are newly issued, it adds long term debt which hurts their balance sheet - which would be expected to hurt their stock price.
Yavin4
(35,442 posts)big hairy, scary, SOCIALISM!!!!
Booga! Booga!