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ProfessorGAC

(65,076 posts)
3. That Included The Convention Bumps
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 07:21 AM
Aug 2020

Both conventions were long over by this date in 2016. Republics was over nearly a month, DNC was over for more than 2 weeks.
Not sure these virtual conventions will provide the normal bump. The whole thing might be flatter this year!
And, you're point about her lead and final result is important.
90,000 people in 2 states change their vote and PINO never wins.
Last point: HRC never had a lead with a number over 50, except in binary polls. This is a very different set of circumstances.

safeinOhio

(32,688 posts)
5. Back then in Michigan there were
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 07:27 AM
Aug 2020

many that voted a straight Democratic ticket, but left out a vote for President. I'm seeing the opposite this year with many Michigan republicans not voting for anyone for President. That along with the polls for Michigan showing Biden up by 8 to 10 points.

still_one

(92,219 posts)
4. CNN is saying their SSRS pollster, (B/C rating) shows a significant decrease for Biden, only up
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 07:22 AM
Aug 2020

4%, while the others pollsters are showing more like 8 to 10% in their national polls in favor of Biden. These are National POLLS

Because that SSRS poll seems significantly out of line compared to the other pollsters, it looks more like an outlier poll

The important thing is nothing can be taken for granted, and getting out the vote is critical, which we are all well aware of here on DU







still_one

(92,219 posts)
8. Approval ratings don't necessarily correlate to votes, and in my view it is too ambiguous
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 08:03 AM
Aug 2020

Sometimes they try to separate them into various categories, such as dealing with the economy, pandemic, etc.


Squinch

(50,955 posts)
10. You're right! I have been watching the trump approval from habit, but searched out this, and I
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 08:08 AM
Aug 2020

feel somewhat better:
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/national/

43% is still nauseating, but much better when viewed against the 51.3%. 10 more percent difference, and I may start sleeping at night!

Thekaspervote

(32,778 posts)
13. 3 polls out in the last 24 hrs with much better ratings beg to differ
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 11:05 AM
Aug 2020

NBC/WSJ
Biden 50%
dotard 41%

YOU/GOV
Biden 52%
dotard 42%

ABC/WAPO
Biden 52%
dotard 40%

OrlandoDem2

(2,065 posts)
6. I believe Biden/Harris need to attack Trump on his one "strength". He polls well on the economy.
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 07:42 AM
Aug 2020

Voters still see him as strong on running the economy.

That’s a joke and Biden needs to go in for the kill.

Bottom line he must talk JOBS!!

Rick Scott and Robert DeSantis both did that. Media could ask them about the color of the sky and they’d pivot to jobs. Biden could go for the jugular by taking Trump’s one relative strength left. Peel away a few percent and we have a historic win for Democrats up and down the ballot while the GOP is crippled for a decade.

still_one

(92,219 posts)
9. What is the measure of the economy to those people? Is it the stock market? The stock market
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 08:08 AM
Aug 2020

isn't the economy, and economy isn't the stock market

OrlandoDem2

(2,065 posts)
11. I can't directly answer your question and I agree with your assertion.
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 08:25 AM
Aug 2020

People want jobs and unemployment was low. Of course, when you strip all regulations and let business destroy the environment that may happen. I also a suspect the market plays a role into perception. Whatever the case I say Joe should tackle that head on somehow.

still_one

(92,219 posts)
12. You will hear that message during the Convention I believe, and after the Convention is when the
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 08:41 AM
Aug 2020

campaigning will go into full drive

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