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Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 07:28 AM Aug 2020

Epstein Victim Claims He Showed Her Off to Trump When She Was 14

https://www.thedailybeast.com/epstein-victim-claims-he-showed-her-off-to-trump-at-mar-a-lago-when-she-was-14

Jeffrey Epstein introduced her to Donald Trump at Mar-A-Lago when she was underage, and the future president allegedly laughed when Epstein declared, “This is a good one, right?”

Kate Briquelet
Senior Reporter
Published Aug. 17, 2020 4:55AM ET

One of Jeffrey Epstein’s first known victims is the last holdout against his estate.

Last January, a California woman identified as Jane Doe filed a lawsuit against Epstein’s estate and British heiress Ghislaine Maxwell, who is facing federal charges for allegedly recruiting girls into the financier’s trafficking ring.

The complaint accuses Epstein and Maxwell of grooming and sexually abusing Doe for years, starting when she was 13 years old. The former couple met Doe in 1994 at the Interlochen Arts Camp in Michigan. (The Daily Beast previously revealed Epstein was a donor to the prestigious school and stayed at a cabin he funded on the property.)

Doe also claims Epstein introduced her to Donald Trump at Mar-A-Lago when she was only 14 years old. “This is a good one, right?” Epstein asked the future president, who allegedly smiled and nodded before sharing a chuckle with the depraved hedge funder. Doe’s lawsuit does not accuse Trump of any sexual misconduct.

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Epstein Victim Claims He Showed Her Off to Trump When She Was 14 (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Aug 2020 OP
Gawd... SheltieLover Aug 2020 #1
Is there underage trump victims that were paid off? duforsure Aug 2020 #2
And he was probably brazen enough to use the payments as a tax deduction. badhair77 Aug 2020 #3
Yes! duforsure Aug 2020 #5
Seems North Shore Chicago Aug 2020 #4
Like Cohen has admitted duforsure Aug 2020 #6
TY North Shore Chicago Aug 2020 #22
Ignore all polls until November 4th. CaptYossarian Aug 2020 #7
Sage advice, hope I can take it. North Shore Chicago Aug 2020 #24
Consider this: If we don't answer the phone for unknown callers, CaptYossarian Aug 2020 #38
every honest person knows who won that election. jaxexpat Aug 2020 #27
Bush won 5 - 4. Those were the votes that got counted. CaptYossarian Aug 2020 #40
"Bush won 5 - 4. Those were the votes that got counted." jaxexpat Aug 2020 #44
It would be on their heads if they had a conscience, an ounce of patriotism, and CaptYossarian Aug 2020 #47
How the f**k are his poll numbers going up? smirkymonkey Aug 2020 #43
It's the morons who still answer the phone. CaptYossarian Aug 2020 #48
Whether Dolt45 raped her or not,... MarianJack Aug 2020 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author A HERETIC I AM Aug 2020 #14
Fixed. MarianJack Aug 2020 #45
I think that at some point Harker Aug 2020 #9
I see what you did there... jcgoldie Aug 2020 #10
Twin disasters Harker Aug 2020 #28
trump: "he likes beautiful women as much as I do, denem Aug 2020 #11
+1 Botany Aug 2020 #12
Where is that statement? oldsoftie Aug 2020 #13
Here you go denem Aug 2020 #16
Daily Mail so take this with a large grain of salt Botany Aug 2020 #19
Thank you! oldsoftie Aug 2020 #30
He and Epstein were thick as thieves Johnny2X2X Aug 2020 #15
K&R, Pee Tape is Pedophile Tape this is one way Putin Controls Red Don uponit7771 Aug 2020 #17
And I would vemture to guess... 2naSalit Aug 2020 #33
+1, yep what else would make a person so servile to an asshole like Putin ?! uponit7771 Aug 2020 #35
Along with... 2naSalit Aug 2020 #36
Yep, I remember in 16 the news that the kGOP emails had been hacked too. No doubt there's some smoke uponit7771 Aug 2020 #37
Trump had a duty to rescue her -- at a minimum calling the police. He did nothing. NCjack Aug 2020 #18
Why would he have called the police Chainfire Aug 2020 #21
Renting the pedo a room makes it a criminal accessory Ponietz Aug 2020 #32
The sources and evidence have never surfaced, and who knows who was paid off.... Sancho Aug 2020 #20
My hunch is that he wouldn't deal with any girl without an NDA jmbar2 Aug 2020 #23
Just when you think it really cannot get more dismal. marble falls Aug 2020 #25
seriously. Potterville, here we come. Evolve Dammit Aug 2020 #26
And QAnon thinks Trump is going to rid the govt. of pedophiles? LOL n/t NEOBuckeye Aug 2020 #29
If that offal provided a room to Epstein he's guilty as an accessory Ponietz Aug 2020 #31
... Lucinda Aug 2020 #34
British heiress? rusty fender Aug 2020 #39
per title of OP llashram Aug 2020 #41
Hypothetically, let's say this story is true and Trump didn't do anything with those underage girls Polybius Aug 2020 #42
Kick dalton99a Aug 2020 #46

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
2. Is there underage trump victims that were paid off?
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 07:36 AM
Aug 2020

Is there a paper trail of his payoffs ? I suspect there is.

badhair77

(4,218 posts)
3. And he was probably brazen enough to use the payments as a tax deduction.
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 07:39 AM
Aug 2020

Let’s see the tax returns for him and the trump organization.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
5. Yes!
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 07:56 AM
Aug 2020

His history shows he's that corrupt, and uses many in his family to funnel money to himself with.

North Shore Chicago

(3,316 posts)
4. Seems
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 07:53 AM
Aug 2020

trumps poll numbers are going up. If it could be proven trump was involved in any of this with Epstein, quite sure he'd be leading Joe by at least 20 points.

So pissed about these poll numbers, what the hell is going on? Crazy backwards and upside down world we live in?!!

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
7. Ignore all polls until November 4th.
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 08:01 AM
Aug 2020

It's easier that way. (I learned this in 2000, when both candidates had won within a half hour.)

jaxexpat

(6,837 posts)
27. every honest person knows who won that election.
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 09:29 AM
Aug 2020

But the result cost the US 8 years of progress.

8 years that should have been used making the country:
#1 generator of renewable energy technology
#1 participant in middle east peace
#1 sponsor for worldwide human rights and equality

But because some people are weak minded and require scapegoat excuses for their miserable inability to accept their personal limitations we got a new century of the same bullshit. The rich are too powerful but that's just the nature of that beast. An informed electorate can remedy any problem if their vote is counted.

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
40. Bush won 5 - 4. Those were the votes that got counted.
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 12:50 PM
Aug 2020

We could go on forever about bin Laden attacking a feeble leader when Gore would have heeded the advice from HIS Condi Rice.

3,000 dead on our own soil in one day, the Homeland Security debacle that followed (creating today's overt attempt at fascism), and starting a war for oil without those big, bad weapons of mass distraction.

At one time, they had those weapons though. We gave them plenty when Iraq had their dust up with Iran--because of our hostage crisis that Raygun's campaign took care of (illegally). We never realized Saddam used them to corral/slaughter his own people.

Every vote should count. Every citizen should vote. That's true democracy.

jaxexpat

(6,837 posts)
44. "Bush won 5 - 4. Those were the votes that got counted."
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 04:05 PM
Aug 2020

Due to the actions of dishonest people.

ALL that followed is on their heads. ALL!

The whole country needs to know that Al Gore won the 2000 election without question. Most of the thinking world has known it since 2001. It's the story even American history professors will lecture.

Giving up to this argument of mundane, charlatan logic is part and parcel to and exemplary and symptomatic of the rot of rationality in our society. It has been way too long since a spade is called for what it is.

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
47. It would be on their heads if they had a conscience, an ounce of patriotism, and
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 04:27 PM
Aug 2020

a shred of dignity.

But all these reptilians know is greed and excessive power. Or power and excessive greed.

They aren't motivated by anything moral, good and decent.

A great man once said, "You're the devil in disguise!" It could be directed at an entire political party.

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
48. It's the morons who still answer the phone.
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 04:33 PM
Aug 2020

Just picture them sitting there, watching FOX. Suddenly, the rotary phone rings and there's no caller ID. They take a chance and remove the tinfoil hat so they can hear better.

Is it a Nigerian prince? Is Ed McMahon calling from the grave? Maybe the grandkids got arrested in a foreign country (again).

What to do?

MarianJack

(10,237 posts)
8. Whether Dolt45 raped her or not,...
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 08:10 AM
Aug 2020

Last edited Mon Aug 17, 2020, 04:05 PM - Edit history (1)

...we still know what a sick and depraved degenerate he is. Maybe he couldn't miss a tee time like when his brother died.

#notmypresident

RESIST

Response to MarianJack (Reply #8)

 

denem

(11,045 posts)
11. trump: "he likes beautiful women as much as I do,
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 08:16 AM
Aug 2020

and many of them are on the younger side”.

Indeed.

Botany

(70,517 posts)
12. +1
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 08:27 AM
Aug 2020

Trump knew of and approved of Epstein's "business" and according to Jeffery
who from his jail stated that Trump let Epstein use his plane to move around
young women. BTW Epstein was dead with 24 hours of making that state,met.

 

denem

(11,045 posts)
16. Here you go
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 08:36 AM
Aug 2020
Trump called Epstein a ‘terrific guy’ who enjoyed ‘younger’ women before denying relationship with him

Back in 2002, when Jeffrey Epstein was known only as a mysterious financial whiz with a private island and a roster of A-list friends, being friendly with him was something to boast about. And Donald Trump did.

“I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy,” Trump told New York Magazine that year for a story headlined “Jeffrey Epstein: International Moneyman of Mystery.” “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-called-epstein-a-terrific-guy-before-denying-relationship-with-him/2019/07/08/a01e0f00-a1be-11e9-bd56-eac6bb02d01d_story.html

Johnny2X2X

(19,067 posts)
15. He and Epstein were thick as thieves
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 08:35 AM
Aug 2020

Best friends, socializing all the time.

And 2 girls have accused Trump of assaults at Epstein properties. One recanted quickly, was probably threatened. The other went to court under an alias, but has been in hiding for years.

Trump was Epstein's partner, he's almost as involved as Maxwell was.

2naSalit

(86,649 posts)
33. And I would vemture to guess...
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 10:15 AM
Aug 2020

That a lot of funders and elected republicans want to avoid exposure too. I think the pee tape is video of a rape on that jet. There was an accusation made several years back but she was bullied into silence, she may be reconsidering speaking up again. Her claim is that he hit her during the rape... maybe more than once. That's what I think the pee tape is. And I think Ghislaine has it.

2naSalit

(86,649 posts)
36. Along with...
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 10:34 AM
Aug 2020

A third of Congress. I recall predicting back in the early days of the Mueller investigation that not only was it all tied to Epstein or through him, and that about a third of Congress could be indicted in collusion with the whole thing. I think there are some really horribly evil people in our government and they need to go.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
37. Yep, I remember in 16 the news that the kGOP emails had been hacked too. No doubt there's some smoke
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 10:47 AM
Aug 2020

Chainfire

(17,550 posts)
21. Why would he have called the police
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 08:58 AM
Aug 2020

for something that he personally approved of?

Florida has a legal requirement to report child abuse, but it only applies to certain professionals. (Teachers, doctors, social workers and some others)

Sancho

(9,070 posts)
20. The sources and evidence have never surfaced, and who knows who was paid off....
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 08:58 AM
Aug 2020

...but there have been accusations of Trump partying with Epstein (in addition Don's solo attacks) for years. Some of the journalism, and some of the solid evidence has been poor. Some of the girls identified the Orange Asshole as the one, and some claim there are other witnesses. The coverup has been going on for years; certainly since Epstein was arrested in Florida years ago.

Remember this one?

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/3/13501364/trump-rape-13-year-old-lawsuit-katie-johnson-allegation

jmbar2

(4,893 posts)
23. My hunch is that he wouldn't deal with any girl without an NDA
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 09:03 AM
Aug 2020

That's what the Trump modeling agency was for. Bring them in from other countries, get the NDA. Total control.

My totally unfact-based hypothesis.

 

rusty fender

(3,428 posts)
39. British heiress?
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 12:48 PM
Aug 2020

Her father stole his money and was reportedly broke when he died; did she ever inherit enough money when he died to be considered an heiress?

Furthermore, Jizzlane’s real claim to fame is as Epstein’s sex trafficker-in-chief. That’s how she should be referred to

llashram

(6,265 posts)
41. per title of OP
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 02:57 PM
Aug 2020

I will choose to believe it especially knowing that he has always been a sexual predator or at least as long as Epstein has been his buddy. Sad this is prominent people in media and our political parties, guess which one knows this is true but will make sure(McConnell) this information never reaches the light of day in MSM. WAS this before or after Epstein hit on the prominent person's daughter that allegedly got him banned from mar-a-lago. Dates times all suspect. To hell with both of those sexual predators. One did the right thing or was helped to do the right thing to atone for his perversions. Now we have to vote the goon out in November so he can atone for his crimes.

Polybius

(15,437 posts)
42. Hypothetically, let's say this story is true and Trump didn't do anything with those underage girls
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 03:14 PM
Aug 2020

Can he still be prosecuted for knowing about it and not calling the police?

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