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riversedge

(70,243 posts)
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 08:57 AM Aug 2020

🚨 It certainly appears that @USPS is targeting Democratic areas with near surgical precision

I had not seen the map before.



Aug 14
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It certainly appears that @USPS
is targeting Democratic areas with near surgical precision for reductions of sorting capacity.



This is as deeply concerning as the the other delays they have announced.
https://washingtonpost.com/local/md-polit



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#SaveUSPS #USPSprotest



............DeJoy, in service changes last month, has drastically reduced overtime and banned extra trips to ensure on-time mail delivery. His wholesale reorganizations ousted several agency veterans in key operational roles. And the USPS is currently decommissioning 10 percent of its costly and bulky mail-sorting machines, which workers say could hinder processing of election mail, according to a grievance filed by the American Postal Workers Union and obtained by The Washington Post. Those 671 machines, scattered across the country but concentrated in high-population areas, have the capacity to sort 21.4 million pieces of paper mail per hour.........................................



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🚨 It certainly appears that @USPS is targeting Democratic areas with near surgical precision (Original Post) riversedge Aug 2020 OP
k&r for visibility. n/t Laelth Aug 2020 #1
And there's a red circle right around where I live SouthernLiberal Aug 2020 #31
As predicted SheltieLover Aug 2020 #2
"Now that House is on this, what's the next repuke trick?" Botany Aug 2020 #4
I meant beyond usps mess SheltieLover Aug 2020 #8
"Now that House is on this, what's the next repuke trick?" Towlie Aug 2020 #26
Of course not SheltieLover Aug 2020 #27
Every single blue area in FL is being targeted. lark Aug 2020 #3
Look at Texas - Houston, San Antonio, DFW, and Austin yellowdogintexas Aug 2020 #9
Yep, democratic strongholds with large populations in purple states where it wouldn't take much LisaL Aug 2020 #18
It is a stark stand out. lark Aug 2020 #35
They started this back in '07, after the last attempt to kill the USPS Cetacea Aug 2020 #34
K&R Jamastiene Aug 2020 #5
Trump got just under 44% of the vote in Pontiac (Oakland County) Mi. Kaleva Aug 2020 #6
Where I live (Metro Detroit) DownriverDem Aug 2020 #7
We will see if they show up, and if they do how combative they are. Evolve Dammit Aug 2020 #10
Same strategy as their response to the COVID pandemic IronLionZion Aug 2020 #11
Memphis and Nashville are blue. Lars39 Aug 2020 #12
There is a solution to this without USPS too... Moostache Aug 2020 #13
All of this has to be approved by the secretary of state and state congress. LisaL Aug 2020 #17
Great idea, provided people are SMART enough to figure it out. n/t Auggie Aug 2020 #21
The ONLY thing you ever need to remember, regarding this issue calimary Aug 2020 #25
Kick and recommend for visibility bronxiteforever Aug 2020 #14
Arrest Louis DeJoy. dalton99a Aug 2020 #15
Absolutely. LisaL Aug 2020 #16
Same situation for Wisconsin dragonlady Aug 2020 #32
Take ballot to 'Republican' city, mail there? tinrobot Aug 2020 #19
You have to get the ballot first, which still involves USPS. LisaL Aug 2020 #22
Premeditated -- this has been in the works for months, maybe years Auggie Aug 2020 #20
Same map with voting pattern overlay..... KY_EnviroGuy Aug 2020 #23
Great info-graphics GopherGal Aug 2020 #29
Is our country really that red? Squidly Aug 2020 #38
If they're going to do Drop Boxes, they'd damn well better have someone guarding BComplex Aug 2020 #24
Not the USPS. DeJoy is doing... zentrum Aug 2020 #28
K & R liberalla Aug 2020 #30
Rotten Motherfuckers! smirkymonkey Aug 2020 #33
ATTN Katie Porter -- this is Exhibit A Blue Owl Aug 2020 #36
Philly. PCIntern Aug 2020 #37

SouthernLiberal

(407 posts)
31. And there's a red circle right around where I live
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 02:06 PM
Aug 2020

I live in a little Democratic pocket in the middle of red South Carolina.... and there I am.... slowed down mail


Towlie

(5,324 posts)
26. "Now that House is on this, what's the next repuke trick?"
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 11:42 AM
Aug 2020

You make it sound like they'll abandon a tactic and substitute something in its place just because "the House is on this."

They'll undoubtedly come up with a "next repuke trick", but that in no way implies that they'll stop doing what they're doing now.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
27. Of course not
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 11:45 AM
Aug 2020

Putin has ordered mass chaos, so repubes will continue to compound the issues with more new tricks.

lark

(23,108 posts)
3. Every single blue area in FL is being targeted.
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 09:23 AM
Aug 2020

They really have a hard on for FL theft, every area shown has moved more Democratic and all the areas not circled are strong repug. Why aren't they removing them from there? Answer is the rest are all strong red areas and a lot of them are very rural. Guess they are nervous about Houston & Detroit/Pontiac area, but I'm surprised Dallas and Austin and Atlanta weren't included. Guess they think Kemp is good enough at suppressing/stealing Dem votes, they don't need further action there?

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
18. Yep, democratic strongholds with large populations in purple states where it wouldn't take much
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 11:13 AM
Aug 2020

to give the election to Trump. A few thousands here, a few thousands there of voter supression might be enough.

Cetacea

(7,367 posts)
34. They started this back in '07, after the last attempt to kill the USPS
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 02:48 PM
Aug 2020

It would be interesting to see find out which areas had the most drop boxes removed. I'm in a blue area and have not had one since then.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
5. K&R
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 09:27 AM
Aug 2020

Of course, they are. Trump drummed up this fiasco after trash talking the USPS for months. The reality wasn't matching his claims, so now he is MAKING it match his claims, using his yes man, DeJoy.

Kaleva

(36,312 posts)
6. Trump got just under 44% of the vote in Pontiac (Oakland County) Mi.
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 09:30 AM
Aug 2020

It also looks like like Grand Rapids, home of the DeVos family and part of Trump Country, also took a hit.

DownriverDem

(6,229 posts)
7. Where I live (Metro Detroit)
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 09:34 AM
Aug 2020

mail was slow and missed a couple of months ago. Now we get it regularly. I abhor trump and the repubs.

IronLionZion

(45,460 posts)
11. Same strategy as their response to the COVID pandemic
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 10:24 AM
Aug 2020

and should hopefully backfire badly for them.

And to think, just a few years ago people thought the GOP would be screwing only foreigners.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
13. There is a solution to this without USPS too...
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 10:55 AM
Aug 2020

Ballot Drop Boxes at EVERY polling station until the close of the polls on election day.

"Fraud" is NOT an actual thing in our elections, and Trump should be called out on it CONSTANTLY between now and November 3rd.

He claims dead people are receiving ballots? How? Exactly how did he CONFIRM that a deceased individual was raising from the dead JUST LONG ENOUGH TO READ THE MAIL AND GET A BALLOT????

He claims dogs are receiving ballots? How? Are we to believe that Trump TALKS to dogs to receive this information? Has he put a 'dog whisperer' on federal payrolls to help with Postal Service by anticipating rouge dogs on foot routes? Maybe Eric DOES have a job discerning wisdom from dog shit?

He claims MILLIONS and MILLIONS of fraudulent votes and yet he said the SAME FUCKING THING IN 2017 and even sent that asshat Kobach on an ACTUAL WITCH HUNT; one that - unlike the Mueller probe - failed to, you know, actually FIND WITCHES!!!

Donald J. Trump is hopelessly full of shit.
ANYONE who pretends otherwise IS THE PROBLEM.

THE PROBLEM must be dealt with on November 3rd and the guilty must face the business end of justice starting January 21st, 2021; and not ending until ALL are identified, shamed, prosecuted to the fullest extent of hte law and IMPRISONED appropriately.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
17. All of this has to be approved by the secretary of state and state congress.
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 11:12 AM
Aug 2020

Seeing as how many swing states have republican majority in a state congress, and republican secretaries of state, don't really expect that to happen.

calimary

(81,322 posts)
25. The ONLY thing you ever need to remember, regarding this issue
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 11:33 AM
Aug 2020

or ANY other issues, is this simple fact:

trump is That Guy Who LIES All The Time.

That’s the only lens through which his words and deeds can be viewed.

That’s the only filter in operation here.

He LIES ALL THE TIME.

That’s literally ALL anyone needs to know about the donald.

He’s that guy who LIES ALL THE TIME!

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
16. Absolutely.
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 11:09 AM
Aug 2020

Look at Columbus on that map. That's a democratic stronghold of OH, which is expected to be extremely close. You slow that down, and viola! Problem solved (for Trump). Also, there was photo circulating showing a mail sorting machine sitting behind a post office in Cleveland -another democratic stronghold in OH.

dragonlady

(3,577 posts)
32. Same situation for Wisconsin
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 02:11 PM
Aug 2020

The Milwaukee area has a large circle on this map. There is also a small dot for Madison. Those are the Democratic strongholds in the state.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
22. You have to get the ballot first, which still involves USPS.
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 11:21 AM
Aug 2020

If you are able to actually take your ballot somewhere (have transportation and so on), take it to a drop off box for ballots. Many states have those now. Look up rules of your states, some allow to take it to a board of elections or an election clerk.
The problem is, not everybody has access to transportation to do all these things.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,492 posts)
23. Same map with voting pattern overlay.....
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 11:31 AM
Aug 2020


Credit to:


Text:
CCK @KlassCarol
Replying to @marceelias and @USPS

Surgical precision is exactly right.

11:49 PM · Aug 14, 2020


Evidently, Trump's people thought they could get away with these moves at USPS without it being noticed. Thank goodness people are watching their every move these days.

Republicans can never be trusted for anything. It has always been that way but much worse with Trump's criminal gang.


KY

GopherGal

(2,008 posts)
29. Great info-graphics
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 12:09 PM
Aug 2020

It'd also be interesting to see the reduction in terms of fraction of average number of pieces sorted per hour.

BComplex

(8,054 posts)
24. If they're going to do Drop Boxes, they'd damn well better have someone guarding
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 11:32 AM
Aug 2020

the damn things! These will likely be the targets of white nationalists in every area.

So he wants everyone to vote by computer so that he can get russia the codes to hack them like they did in Florida in 2016?

We need to figure out what we're going to do. And we're already late.

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