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Politicalgolfer

(317 posts)
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 01:15 PM Aug 2020

What the hell with this poll???

Hubby was watching local news (NBC, I think). Afterward a show came on which I never watch & never knew existed. They started talking about tonight's convention & said polls are tightening. Put up a poll that had Biden at 50 & Trump at 46. Didn't see what poll it is but almost lost my lunch because numbers like this means it's easy to steal...particularly with all the filthy shit the Trump mafia is up to😡 I am real interested in the NBC poll that will be announced late this afternoon. Anyway, does anyone have any info. Can't believe Trump would shoot up 5 or 6 points out of the blue for absolutely no reason!

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What the hell with this poll??? (Original Post) Politicalgolfer Aug 2020 OP
Lies! SheltieLover Aug 2020 #1
Ignore all polls. virgogal Aug 2020 #2
My advice is don't depend on polls LakeArenal Aug 2020 #3
I think that was CNN PatSeg Aug 2020 #4
There was a CNN outlier poll that nearly everyone is dismissing. Other polls remain in line hlthe2b Aug 2020 #5
CNN was out lying. lagomorph777 Aug 2020 #12
That is the cnn ssrs poll that cnn has been pushing all morning and some last night still_one Aug 2020 #6
It's good to be so obamanut2012 Aug 2020 #7
It is an outlier but you concern is noted. Demsrule86 Aug 2020 #8
Its a poll. They're generally correct for the general moment they're taken. marble falls Aug 2020 #9
Thanks for the info... Politicalgolfer Aug 2020 #10
Racists already have their monster. We needn't waste effort on the MAGAts. lagomorph777 Aug 2020 #14
CNN is an outlier. CNN is out lying. lagomorph777 Aug 2020 #11
Cracks me up to see reactions oswaldactedalone Aug 2020 #13
A single poll isn't terribly meaningful. Codeine Aug 2020 #15
It's CNN, and here's the link to the thread on DU Polybius Aug 2020 #16
It's a bullshit CNN poll that doesn't reflect the current trends Fiendish Thingy Aug 2020 #17
trump will leap all over this, you know it Iwasthere Aug 2020 #18
Well,Comcast Media is laying down a marker. Wellstone ruled Aug 2020 #19

LakeArenal

(28,820 posts)
3. My advice is don't depend on polls
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 01:18 PM
Aug 2020

I have never been polled. Friends have never been polled. I’ve read a lot of polls are push polls. Media wants a horse race.

If we can keep just two on the ballot, somehow that eliminates one way to cheat.

still_one

(92,219 posts)
6. That is the cnn ssrs poll that cnn has been pushing all morning and some last night
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 01:26 PM
Aug 2020

They are ignoring other polls at the same time, including the Washington Post ABC poll released today showing Biden/Harris leading by 9 to 11 points

My advice is to ignore the media bullshit

They have also been pushing the Biden has no enthusiasm crap

Just focus on voting and getting the vote out

As for polls, in my view, focus on the battleground polls. The national polls are very misleading

Politicalgolfer

(317 posts)
10. Thanks for the info...
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 01:40 PM
Aug 2020

...everyone! If the NBC one comes out this afternoon & shows a similar rise I am going to get sick! The bastard has done nothing in the last few weeks that would lead to a rise...more like his numbers heading for the sewer! What scares me is if this is a reaction to a woman/black being on the ticket! This country still is filthy with racists. I never count out that factor rising it's head at election time😡

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
14. Racists already have their monster. We needn't waste effort on the MAGAts.
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 01:50 PM
Aug 2020

If you look at the average of polls, Biden is reliably performing twice as well as the CNN outlier.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/national/

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
11. CNN is an outlier. CNN is out lying.
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 01:41 PM
Aug 2020

Multiple other polls in the same time period show 2-3 times the margin of Biden over Trump.

oswaldactedalone

(3,491 posts)
13. Cracks me up to see reactions
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 01:45 PM
Aug 2020

Last edited Mon Aug 17, 2020, 05:26 PM - Edit history (1)

to polls. If your guy has a solid lead, the pollster is the best, most reliable poster ever. The lead shrinks and they’re terrible pollsters with an agenda. Grow up people, and stop whining about polls. Work to elect Dems.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
15. A single poll isn't terribly meaningful.
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 01:52 PM
Aug 2020

Look at aggregates. Even a well-designed and properly-conducted poll can throw up a bad result. A range of polls adjusted for performance and taken together can be far more informative.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,624 posts)
17. It's a bullshit CNN poll that doesn't reflect the current trends
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 01:54 PM
Aug 2020

Two polls out today show Biden over 50% with double digit leads.

There will be outliers, there are every election - follow the trends and the averages.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
19. Well,Comcast Media is laying down a marker.
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 02:22 PM
Aug 2020

Corporate Media is looking at massive Tax law reversals in the up coming Biden Administration. They want a Horse Race and after the RNC announced it was going to dump 24 million on Murdoch Media as well as Right wing Web Pages,you just knew the CBS,Comcast Media as well as Disney Media will do what ever it takes to suck some of Trumps Campaign Money.


Do not forget,Trump made Billions for Electronic Media in both Money and in Kind Advertising for the Rethugs in 2016.

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