AOC: It's great that Kasich has woken up&realized the importance of supporting a Biden-Harris ticket

[melman]

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[jalan48]

1. Thanks for keeping it real AOC.

[comradebillyboy]

2. Although her assessment of Kasich is basically correct

this doesn't seem to be the most opportune time to attack an ally, even if he's only a temporary ally.

[CrispyQ]

3. Reminding us of his putrid policies & positions isn't an attack--it's a statement of fact.

I thought she was pretty diplomatic considering Kasich is slime.

[qazplm135]

4. I mean

he drew first blood didn't he?
I'm not a huge fan of hers, but she didn't start it.

[Mariana]

15. Well, he's a man, after all, and she's a young woman.

Naturally, some people expect her to shut up and smile.

[Caliman73]

8. Did he need to use the platform given him by the Democratic Party to attack a Democratic Rep?

It works both ways here. If he had not said anything about AOC, then there would have been no need for her to respond.

This is one of the weaknesses within the Democratic mainstream, the lack of desire to push back on things. We always have to "play nice" and not respond. I am glad that AOC responded. Her response was in no way in appropriate. It was proportional to Kaisich's attack on her.

[BamaRefugee]

41. Totally agree.

[Caliman73]

44. Context is important.

I don't think, and I wouldn't support AOC going after everyone who criticizes her. That to me shows thin skin. However, this is different. Kasich is a guest at Our Party's function. He needs to focus on his message (even if it is about being a moderate, which he is not) but he should have kept AOC's name out of his mouth. She is a Democratic Party member and Represents her district as a Democrat. He is a Republican who just happens to be embarrassed by what HIS Republican Party elected to office.

I would ask Kaisich, "Donald Trump was at one time, registered in the Democratic Party, why is it, do you think, that He NEVER ran as a Democrat? Why is it that he found so much success in the Republican Party? Why is it that his support within the Republican Party remains high?

He needs to deal with the crap from his Republican Party before he starts telling us how the Democratic Party should be, and even then he should shut up about the Democratic Party.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

10. So she should just sit back and take it?

Fuck him.

[PTWB]

28. Really?

She’s RESPONDING to him ATTACKING HER FIRST.

But I guess because she’s a woman of color she should just shut up and take it?

No!

[Celerity]

32. he attacked her first nt

[LongtimeAZDem]

56. AOC took a while to "wake up" herself; I remember when she said "we'll see" about endorsing Biden

[cwydro]

57. I remember too.

[theaocp]

5. I hope the crazies kick him out of their party.

Fuck this guy.

[demmiblue]

6. K&R

[Trumpocalypse]

7. I fully support AOC

and think she will have a bright future. But she has to pick her battles and develop a thicker skin. Stop going after anyone on Twitter who says a word of criticism. That is a reality of politics she needs to get use to.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

11. She has a great understanding of how to use social media to her advantage.

She won this round for sure.

[Trumpocalypse]

22. Yes she did

But did she need to. I could care less about what Kasich has to say about her. I’m sure most of her supporters feel the same. The point is she doesn’t need to hit back every time some jerk says something bad about her. It makes her look petty.

[Caliman73]

45. Context. He is not just "some jerk".

He is a former Rep, Former Governor, and former Presidential Candidate from the modern Republican Party, who was invited to speak, mainly because he is embarrassed about what his Republican Party has become (what is has been destined to become).

This "some jerk" was given a spot to speak at the Democratic National Convention, where we nominate our candidate for the Presidency. If he were just some schmo like "Joe the Plumber", I would agree.

He is using this opportunity, which was granted to him by OUR Party, to try to sow divisions in OUR Party.

She was right to call him out and remind people who he actually is, not the portrait of the "moderate Republican" that he wants to paint himself as.

Look at his policy positions. Also read what Robert Reich wrote about Democrats recently.

[Trumpocalypse]

46. He's still a jerk

And my point is she needs to be more strategic in who she gets into Twitter fights with, it will be better for her in the long run.

[mr_lebowski]

9. Important thing to keep in mind ... he has weight in Ohio ... and no Repuke has won POTUS

without winning OH in ... some really long period of time.

I'm glad to have him there, and he didn't really say anything that's wrong ... even if I don't really like seeing progressives marginalized in this way.

Eyes on the Prize, baby ...

[Cuthbert Allgood]

12. He essentially said she isn't a Democrat.

Fuck that guy.

[mr_lebowski]

13. After we WIN, yah, fuck a whole bunch of people ...

Until then?

Enemy of my Enemy and all that ...

She addressed it well I thought.

[maximusveritas]

42. No, he said that she doesn't represent all of the Democratic Party as Trump/GOP would want

us to believe.
He didn't say anything remotely like what you said

[BamaRefugee]

20. Anybody,anywhere, who gives "weight " to Kasich is so warped they'll never vote for a Dem ever!

[mr_lebowski]

23. Uh-huh ... so why is he there then? (nt)

[BamaRefugee]

25. You got me. Ever studied his views? He's opposed to everything we stand for. Is he getting more time

To speak than an actual Democrat like AOC?

[mr_lebowski]

29. Maybe we should trust the Democrats in charge of the convention know what they're doing?

[BamaRefugee]

30. Ok then, if we're going to shut up like Republicans and just march in lockstep, then I say

“TRUST BUT VERIFY”.
Too bad they couldn’t get a hologram of Reagan to give the keynote speech.

[mr_lebowski]

31. I'm really just talking about the point that he could sway some votes in Ohio ...

I suspect the Dems putting on the convention have good reason to believe that he might.

And sometimes one must be pragmatic in situations like these.

[BamaRefugee]

36. I'm older and cast my first vote for Democrats in 1970. so seeing lots of baffling things over the

years has made me hypervigilant I guess

[mr_lebowski]

39. I understand it's a compromise and it's frustrating to me too

But almost nothing matters to me other than beating Trump and Mitch.

[Sympthsical]

14. That anti-woman asshole went after her

But yes, let's highlight this fucker.

Yeah, I'm pissed.

Doesn't affect my vote, but this is ridiculous. We now have a Republican defining our party for us and he gets a solid speaking role at our convention.

Much yay.

It's ok. The moderates will march on out and defend it all. Because there's never an accommodation with Republicans that isn't super sensible and pragmatic.

Ugh.

Kamala energized me. This is sapping that right out. Now I'm just glowering at the convention. At least we'll get her speech. Well looking forward to that.

[NurseJackie]

16. Let-go and trust-Joe. This ain't Biden's first time at the rodeo.

Yeah, I'm pissed.

All this hand-wringing and anger serves no good purpose. It won't change a thing. What's done is done, what will be will be.

It's ok. The moderates will march on out and defend it all. Because there's never an accommodation with Republicans that isn't super sensible and pragmatic.

Oh brother! That's not helpful.

[Sympthsical]

19. I'm not hand-wringing. We're going to win.

Which is why we don't need this Left-attacking crap going on.

As far as your Oh brother, sorry, already see it happening in other threads. Someone literally criticized AOC for responding to Kasich's bullshit. Didn't criticize his anti-choice ass. Nope. AOC was the problem.

I won't be quiet when I see it. If we're not a liberal/progressive party, we're nothing.

[NurseJackie]

21. So? I can't get as worked-up about things like that.

Someone literally criticized AOC for responding to Kasich's bullshit.

So? I can't get as worked-up about things like that. There's a time and place for everything and our veteran and experienced party leaders know that.

I won't be quiet when I see it. If we're not a liberal/progressive party, we're nothing.

If we're not reasonable and realistic centrists or center-leftists... then we will be losers. Elections are always won from the center, not from the far ends.

The Democratic party is not "nothing". Our platform is not "nothing". Our nominee is not "nothing". So stop it! We don't need this kind of manufactured division and distraction.

All hands on deck! Get with the program! Enough hand-wringing and negativity!

All I'm trying to say is this: Negativity generates apathy. Apathy discourages voter turnout. Low voter turnout gives Republicans a chance to steal the elections.

[George II]

49. You think Kasich is going to get up there tonight and "left-attack"?

[BamaRefugee]

26. We "let go and trusted" in 2016 that campaigning in Wisconsin was unnecessary.

[NurseJackie]

35. It's not 2016. It's a new day.

[BamaRefugee]

37. It's not a new day until the day after Election Day. Hope springs eternal.

[NurseJackie]

40. All I'm seeing is negativity and second-guessing...

Hope springs eternal.

All I'm seeing is negativity and second-guessing. Unnecessary hand-wringing. Sniping and whining. Showing zero trust in Joe Biden's decisions, his leadership, as well as taking cheap-shots at our party leaders and planners.

It's not a new day until the day after Election Day.

Well then, I say: Get to work! All hands on deck. Get with the program. There's no time for nit-picking. No time for scab-picking and opening up old wounds. We don't have the luxury of taking time out for petty grievances and clock-watching. Lead or follow or get out of the way.

We're not MARRYING these Republicans, we're accepting their much needed help in defeating Trump. I guess I just have different priorities and I won't let false pride stand in the way of accepting a helping hand.

All I'm trying to say is the constant smears and attacks against Joe and party leadership only serve to create an atmosphere of negativity: Negativity generates apathy. Apathy discourages voter turnout. Low voter turnout gives Republicans a chance to steal the elections.

[George II]

48. "A republican defining our party for us"? Are you serious? A 5-10 minute speech...

...if even that long certainly isn't going to "define" the Democratic Party.

So what do you propose, write off ALL republicans now in the 3rd week of August? That certainly isn't a recipe for winning in November.

[George II]

53. Follow up - Kasich spoke for 4-1/2 minutes. That did NOT "define our party for us"!!!!

[BamaRefugee]

17. This regressive jerk is a TROJAN HORSE at the gates of the Democrats...and

...WE’RE GOING TO LET HIM IN!!!

WTactualF???

The only thing that will happen “reaching out” to people like Kasich is they will grab your arm and pull you down into the muck and mire of the cesspool they live in.

[NurseJackie]

33. Ridiculous. No he's not.

[George II]

54. Do you know what a Trojan Horse is?

[gratuitous]

18. Kasich is not there to talk to us

He's also not there to write any planks of the Democrats' platform. If his address convinces one or two Republicans in every precinct to vote Biden/Harris, this will be a very useful investment by the DNC. Don't make his appearance one molecule bigger than it is. He's there to provide an out for doubting Republicans.

[mr_lebowski]

27. Exactly ... I think it's smart. If Charlie Crist wanted to come and talk up Biden/Harris

I'd be down with that too.

People are acting like we let Dick Cheney or John Bolton up to talk ...

Hell, if W wanted to get up there, I'd say GO FOR IT.

[NurseJackie]

34. Thank you. I trust Joe. I trust our party leadership. These laughable "Trojan Horse" claims...

Thank you. I trust Joe. I trust our party leadership. These laughable "Trojan Horse" claims are just absurd.

We heard these same complaints about the Lincoln Project. Fact of the matter is this: for the time being, the enemy of my enemy is our friend, and we NEED their help. The stakes are just too high for us to let vanity and pride cause us to turn away a helping hand.

People just need to get used to it. It's not going to change. With their help, we are going to win.

Look, all these hand-wringing folks need to be rational and put things into political perspective. Fact of the matter is this: We're not marrying them for life... we're accepting their help in DEFEATING DONALD TRUMP.

I want to win. I guess I just have different priorities, and I'm not too proud to accept help.

[Yoyoyo77]

24. Well Done AOC

I don't agree with AOC on everything, but i do think that her ideas are important. We need input from all wings of the party. As for Kasich he's a lifelong Republican, for at least 30 years a my way or the highway oriented org. AOC handled this well.

[BamaRefugee]

38. Agreed. From someone who has voted AGAINST Republicans for 50 years this election.

[ibegurpard]

47. Amen

We don't need to give them center stage. Very disappointing.

[Greybnk48]

50. I'm with AOC. Fuck Kasich!

He would sell women and union workers down the river first chance. He is a rabid anti-choicer and also a 50's kind of guy when it comes to women's rights in general. I'm 71 and grew up around men like him, ass slappers that call you hon. He makes my skin crawl.

[jcgoldie]

51. Me too! Fuck Kasich he is NOT a moderate

Thank you AOC!

[Mariana]

52. He has no respect or concern for women. Who can forget this:

Republican presidential hopeful John Kasich today told a female college student concerned about "sexual violence, harassment and rape" that she should not "go to parties where there's a lot of alcohol."

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/john-kasich-advises-female-student-parties-lot-alcohol/story?id=38429352

[Cbus Girl]

55. Me too!

This is Kasich’s MO. He comes off as an adult in the room by not being a Trump nut job but he is a Trojan horse. He is no friend to women or unions ask any Ohioan. He will run in 2024.