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*Battleground Wisconsin* Biden 49% Trump 43% (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2020 OP
Little Donny is feeling down in the Trumps Blue Owl Aug 2020 #1
Trumo, Pence, and Eric are all making appearances in WI. Wonder if that will help them? Tech Aug 2020 #2
Reminder that clinton had a 6.5% average in RCP on election day jorgevlorgan Aug 2020 #3
In Wisconsin? I know it's not enough now. But, curious was that a Wisc number? mucifer Aug 2020 #7
Yeah. 46.8-40.3 jorgevlorgan Aug 2020 #15
Clinton also was only polling, on average, at 46.8% in Wisconsin. Drunken Irishman Aug 2020 #11
I think that's a big deal. jorgevlorgan Aug 2020 #16
I think Wisconsin will be close but not nail-biter close. Drunken Irishman Aug 2020 #17
Yeah I think youre right jorgevlorgan Aug 2020 #18
Steady as she goes. BannonsLiver Aug 2020 #4
In line BGBD Aug 2020 #5
Age 45-64 continues to be the problem Awsi Dooger Aug 2020 #6
They know that without Wisconsin, they have no shot. So they're working it hard. Squinch Aug 2020 #10
I've seen the same urgency in Florida for years Awsi Dooger Aug 2020 #19
Lol! I don't quite know what Holly Tone is, but I think you should follow the Trump Squinch Aug 2020 #20
Biden needs to make his speech in Wisconsin scinsin Kamala4TheWin Aug 2020 #8
LOL BannonsLiver Aug 2020 #12
Wisconsin is absolutely essential. I'd feel better with more than 6%. If we don't take Squinch Aug 2020 #9
K&R, good thing is the poll is LV and low MOE REALLY hard to get out of +5% up with now uponit7771 Aug 2020 #14
WTF is wrong with GENx !?!! 45 - 64 breaking hard to Red Don? This is sKrange uponit7771 Aug 2020 #13

jorgevlorgan

(8,301 posts)
3. Reminder that clinton had a 6.5% average in RCP on election day
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 06:53 PM
Aug 2020

I won't be comfortable until this number is 15-20%.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
11. Clinton also was only polling, on average, at 46.8% in Wisconsin.
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 08:18 PM
Aug 2020

Trump was at 40.3%, which means there were nearly 13% of voters either going third party or undecided.

With this poll, Biden is at 49.8% and Trump is at 43.4%. That means there's only 7% who are undecided or voting third party. But that's a significant dip from four years ago (especially since it's August).

Biden is essentially at 50% on average. Clinton was well below 50%, which hurt her as Trump won the undecided vote at the end.

jorgevlorgan

(8,301 posts)
16. I think that's a big deal.
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 08:33 PM
Aug 2020

It's scary though -if they are able to close the gap entirely, it will be a nailbiter again.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
17. I think Wisconsin will be close but not nail-biter close.
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 08:55 PM
Aug 2020

Trump is in a different position now than he was four years ago: as an unpopular incumbent, it's harder to win over those undecided voters. I think that's why polls are so favorable to Biden this go around - not just by margin but by total undecideds being well below where we were even on election eve.

I also suspect Hillary was dinged by the Comet letter, which shifted those undecideds either to the third party or Trump. I really have a tough time envisioning anything that can happen with Biden that will rival that mess with the Comey letter.

jorgevlorgan

(8,301 posts)
18. Yeah I think youre right
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 09:15 PM
Aug 2020

And spot on with this part

not just by margin but by total undecideds being well below where we were even on election eve.


That gives me hope, thanks!
 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
6. Age 45-64 continues to be the problem
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 07:19 PM
Aug 2020

In Wisconsin and everywhere else. It's such a huge slice of the electorate, basically 40% in Wisconsin.

These numbers are very familiar to Wisconsin 2016 except seniors have switched to Biden after narrowly favoring Trump last time. Of course, it's a different block of seniors, as often mentioned.

The one thing I don't understand is how the male vote has shifted sharply toward Biden from Wisconsin 2016 but females retain the same 10 point edge as Hillary received. There should be at least some dance steps together.

Trump is held up in Wisconsin by atypical loyalty from Republicans and conservatives. The 6% loss among Republicans and 11% among conservatives are both identical to how he fared in the 2016 exit poll, and both are lower than other swing states plus the national numbers.

Squinch

(50,955 posts)
10. They know that without Wisconsin, they have no shot. So they're working it hard.
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 08:15 PM
Aug 2020

A Wisconsin DUer pointed out on Sunday that a Sunday morning news show had 3 trump ads and no Joe ads.

We need to fix that and match and exceed all their other efforts in the state.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
19. I've seen the same urgency in Florida for years
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 09:41 PM
Aug 2020

The GOP knows they need this state so the emphasis is year round. This year has been quiet but there were Trump canvassers this afternoon in my suburban neighborhood.

It's the first time I've seen them since coronavirus began. I shooed him away without opening the door. But I did think it was amusing I had spread lots of Holly Tone earlier in the afternoon.. That stuff smells to heck and he had to stand out there amidst it while waiting for me to arrive.

Squinch

(50,955 posts)
20. Lol! I don't quite know what Holly Tone is, but I think you should follow the Trump
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 10:00 PM
Aug 2020

canvassers and sprinkle it in their path. Like rose petals from a flower girl!

 

Kamala4TheWin

(55 posts)
8. Biden needs to make his speech in Wisconsin scinsin
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 07:42 PM
Aug 2020

even if it’s in an empty room. Don’t understand the strategy of speaking from Delaware

Squinch

(50,955 posts)
9. Wisconsin is absolutely essential. I'd feel better with more than 6%. If we don't take
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 08:12 PM
Aug 2020

Wisconsin, it gives Donny Bodybags a path to win. We cannot have that.

We need to flood that state.

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