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(1,771 posts)jorgevlorgan
(8,301 posts)I won't be comfortable until this number is 15-20%.
mucifer
(23,550 posts)jorgevlorgan
(8,301 posts)As the comment below yours points out, she never really even got close to 50%, so that's a really good sign for Biden.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)Trump was at 40.3%, which means there were nearly 13% of voters either going third party or undecided.
With this poll, Biden is at 49.8% and Trump is at 43.4%. That means there's only 7% who are undecided or voting third party. But that's a significant dip from four years ago (especially since it's August).
Biden is essentially at 50% on average. Clinton was well below 50%, which hurt her as Trump won the undecided vote at the end.
jorgevlorgan
(8,301 posts)It's scary though -if they are able to close the gap entirely, it will be a nailbiter again.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)Trump is in a different position now than he was four years ago: as an unpopular incumbent, it's harder to win over those undecided voters. I think that's why polls are so favorable to Biden this go around - not just by margin but by total undecideds being well below where we were even on election eve.
I also suspect Hillary was dinged by the Comet letter, which shifted those undecideds either to the third party or Trump. I really have a tough time envisioning anything that can happen with Biden that will rival that mess with the Comey letter.
jorgevlorgan
(8,301 posts)And spot on with this part
That gives me hope, thanks!
BannonsLiver
(16,396 posts)BGBD
(3,282 posts)with an ~8 point national lead.
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)In Wisconsin and everywhere else. It's such a huge slice of the electorate, basically 40% in Wisconsin.
These numbers are very familiar to Wisconsin 2016 except seniors have switched to Biden after narrowly favoring Trump last time. Of course, it's a different block of seniors, as often mentioned.
The one thing I don't understand is how the male vote has shifted sharply toward Biden from Wisconsin 2016 but females retain the same 10 point edge as Hillary received. There should be at least some dance steps together.
Trump is held up in Wisconsin by atypical loyalty from Republicans and conservatives. The 6% loss among Republicans and 11% among conservatives are both identical to how he fared in the 2016 exit poll, and both are lower than other swing states plus the national numbers.
Squinch
(50,955 posts)A Wisconsin DUer pointed out on Sunday that a Sunday morning news show had 3 trump ads and no Joe ads.
We need to fix that and match and exceed all their other efforts in the state.
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)The GOP knows they need this state so the emphasis is year round. This year has been quiet but there were Trump canvassers this afternoon in my suburban neighborhood.
It's the first time I've seen them since coronavirus began. I shooed him away without opening the door. But I did think it was amusing I had spread lots of Holly Tone earlier in the afternoon.. That stuff smells to heck and he had to stand out there amidst it while waiting for me to arrive.
Squinch
(50,955 posts)canvassers and sprinkle it in their path. Like rose petals from a flower girl!
Kamala4TheWin
(55 posts)even if its in an empty room. Dont understand the strategy of speaking from Delaware
BannonsLiver
(16,396 posts)Squinch
(50,955 posts)Wisconsin, it gives Donny Bodybags a path to win. We cannot have that.
We need to flood that state.