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sheshe2

(83,791 posts)
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 07:43 PM Aug 2020

OMG! The SKY IS FALLING.

Those caving Democrats have failed us again.

They have invited not one but four Republicans to speak at OUR CONVENTION! Four out of hundreds of Democrats. FOUR! They are going to take over our plarform because we are so weak. They are going to push RW talking points during Our Convention. They plan to assert control over our convention.



Get a grip.

Do I trust Repubs as a whole? No I do not. Not even close, however I will applaud any vote against trump. If they can turn 100 votes our way tonight, that is a good thing. A well respected Senator said much the same and was applauded to welcome them into our big tent. Now with Biden, not so much.

Not sure where people are at these days, what they are thinking. We do not need division right now. To sow it is going to prove even more fatal than where we stand now. We have 170K dead, by election day, with schools opening then slamming their doors shut within days of opening will have us well over 200K American bodies in graves.

Let's try to get it right by all working together. Not much time left.

TIC TOC.

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OMG! The SKY IS FALLING. (Original Post) sheshe2 Aug 2020 OP
Well said sheshe CanonRay Aug 2020 #1
Thanks sheshe2 Aug 2020 #32
+1000 BannonsLiver Aug 2020 #2
Hey. sheshe2 Aug 2020 #81
This is the only format in which MontanaMama Aug 2020 #3
They only way we win is by changing minds and hearts. forgotmylogin Aug 2020 #101
Exactly! Phoenix61 Aug 2020 #4
Don't see that happening mdbl Aug 2020 #95
Spot on Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2020 #5
TROJAN HORSE THIRD WAY!!! betsuni Aug 2020 #6
Brilliant post! sheshe2 Aug 2020 #7
Daaaaaaaaamn! NurseJackie Aug 2020 #15
I don't know if this will change any minds, but maybe it will make a few people think. Arkansas Granny Aug 2020 #27
Debbie Downers have activated BannonsLiver Aug 2020 #8
Both made me laugh. NurseJackie Aug 2020 #16
I find this convention brilliant and diverse. sheshe2 Aug 2020 #34
Activation code: 666 sheshe2 Aug 2020 #59
The republicans at the Democratic convention are speaking to disaffected republicans. madaboutharry Aug 2020 #9
Winner. sheshe2 Aug 2020 #10
agreed - I think it's the political Kiss of Death NewJeffCT Aug 2020 #88
doesn't take much.. stillcool Aug 2020 #11
+100,000 this. paleotn Aug 2020 #12
Bless you, sister sheshe Hekate Aug 2020 #13
I Only Cried For 20 Minutes Roy Rolling Aug 2020 #14
Well said Bradshaw3 Aug 2020 #17
Bwahahahahaaa spanone Aug 2020 #18
;) sheshe2 Aug 2020 #50
;) sheshe2 Aug 2020 #76
This message was self-deleted by its author sheshe2 Aug 2020 #77
We need to work together to get this cancer out of our government relayerbob Aug 2020 #19
I can only go so far with "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" way of thinking. dflprincess Aug 2020 #20
Agree with all of that.... MyOwnPeace Aug 2020 #38
Well done! George II Aug 2020 #21
I will take a few dozen republicans voting for us... sheshe2 Aug 2020 #28
and we are missing the reaction that it will cause rufus dog Aug 2020 #22
How many do you think he will find. sheshe2 Aug 2020 #49
Personally I'd like to see every Republican launched into the sun Orrex Aug 2020 #23
Yet you do see what is being posted here, correct? sheshe2 Aug 2020 #31
Yes, I had one hidden yesterday, in fact Orrex Aug 2020 #82
Thank you for your voice of sanity, she mcar Aug 2020 #24
Which Repubs are speaking? PNW-Dem Aug 2020 #25
Yes seta1950 Aug 2020 #26
It had to be said. we can do it Aug 2020 #29
+100,000 CaptainTruth Aug 2020 #30
I See Some Whining on Twitter About Repubs Speaking Coming Mostly from Bernie Supporters Indykatie Aug 2020 #33
Yes, the Nina Turner broom closet wing where they can all fit in GeorgiaPeanut Aug 2020 #48
Brie sheshe2 Aug 2020 #52
... jcgoldie Aug 2020 #35
Yes. Saw it earlier today. sheshe2 Aug 2020 #39
He's not a moderate jcgoldie Aug 2020 #40
Would you prefer 'said progressives' like Nina Turner? sheshe2 Aug 2020 #62
What does John Kasich speaking at the DNC have to do with Nina Turner? jcgoldie Aug 2020 #63
Welp. sheshe2 Aug 2020 #68
Uhm jcgoldie Aug 2020 #69
Just making a point of who you would prefer on the roster. sheshe2 Aug 2020 #70
Why do you think I care about Nina Turner? jcgoldie Aug 2020 #73
Nothing. You dont need to say who you'd prefer to justify your objection to Kasich. Dark n Stormy Knight Aug 2020 #94
Just making a point of who you would prefer on the roster. sheshe2 Aug 2020 #71
I welcome our new Republican allies! NurseJackie Aug 2020 #36
We never swore til death do us part. sheshe2 Aug 2020 #41
Why so harsh with Democrats with a different opinion? Unity anyone? dlk Aug 2020 #37
????????????? sheshe2 Aug 2020 #42
Little ironic, don't you think? MrsCoffee Aug 2020 #93
This is a strategy to win grantcart Aug 2020 #43
I'm not bothered by Republicans who support Biden. Not sure why anyone is. The message is UNITY. CousinIT Aug 2020 #44
K&R nt SpaceNeedle Aug 2020 #45
Exactly! niyad Aug 2020 #46
The opposition to and sneering of Republicans speaking at our convention GeorgiaPeanut Aug 2020 #47
Thats a bunch of bullshit jcgoldie Aug 2020 #51
Who knows how people are thinking this time around? sheshe2 Aug 2020 #54
My point is just... jcgoldie Aug 2020 #56
Is Kasich on the ballot? sheshe2 Aug 2020 #58
Sure isn't jcgoldie Aug 2020 #61
Read DU. nt sheshe2 Aug 2020 #64
Kasich is not speaking "for us" . He is speaking for Republicans that hate Trump JI7 Aug 2020 #72
Nina Turner and Cornel West, with others, already have a "People's Convention" scheduled.... George II Aug 2020 #87
Oh boy... sheshe2 Aug 2020 #89
Yes, to be exact: George II Aug 2020 #90
Thanks for posting that paragraph. sheshe2 Aug 2020 #91
Every progressive believes in a woman's right to choose and women's equality GeorgiaPeanut Aug 2020 #57
Thank you, Sewa Aug 2020 #65
Well, Sewa sheshe2 Aug 2020 #80
Replied to the wrong post sheshe2 GeorgiaPeanut Aug 2020 #83
Oops 😬 sheshe2 Aug 2020 #84
If you have any doubt, below is a DIRECT quote from Nina Turner... George II Aug 2020 #86
Bullshit RhodeIslandOne Aug 2020 #67
I thought that segment was extremely well done, and completely appropriate. Crunchy Frog Aug 2020 #53
Well, it does show... Trueblue Texan Aug 2020 #55
It felt right to me. qwlauren35 Aug 2020 #60
Exactly she! As I said on another thread--TWO MILLION Ohioans R B Garr Aug 2020 #66
I know his background. sheshe2 Aug 2020 #79
Yes, agreed about him. R B Garr Aug 2020 #104
Thanks! sheshe2 Aug 2020 #105
The enemy of my enemy is my temporary ally liberaltrucker Aug 2020 #74
💯💯💯 well said, sheshe! Vivienne235729 Aug 2020 #75
That they could find Republicans willing to put country over party amazes me. Jamastiene Aug 2020 #78
I like the "country before party theme" MissMillie Aug 2020 #85
Rec. cwydro Aug 2020 #92
Kicked and recommended. ❤ nt littlemissmartypants Aug 2020 #96
Tick Tock indeed! Well said. GoneOffShore Aug 2020 #97
Between that and The Lincoln Project Harker Aug 2020 #98
Interesting approach. Start by criticizing other Dems who think differently Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2020 #99
This wasn't the issue. Griefbird Aug 2020 #100
Talk is cheap... abakan Aug 2020 #102
People need to calm down AC_Mem Aug 2020 #103

MontanaMama

(23,322 posts)
3. This is the only format in which
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 07:46 PM
Aug 2020

repukes could speak at our convention. If this were a live event, they’d be booed off the stage. Not speaking to whether or not they should have been invited...I’m sure there will be a ton of opinion on that tonight.

Phoenix61

(17,006 posts)
4. Exactly!
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 07:48 PM
Aug 2020

We aren’t going to have every seat in the Senate and the House. We are going to have to work with Repubs. Good to show that we are willing to. Make the ones that refuse to work with us be recognized as the obstructionist they are.

mdbl

(4,973 posts)
95. Don't see that happening
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 03:57 PM
Aug 2020

I see just a ramp-up of right wing rhetoric like during Obama's administration. If you don't mind, I'm staying low.

betsuni

(25,539 posts)
6. TROJAN HORSE THIRD WAY!!!
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 08:06 PM
Aug 2020

In my opinion, having four non-Democrats speaking of country over party is a LOT better than a non-Democrat telling people that the Democratic nominee is the lesser of two evils.

BannonsLiver

(16,396 posts)
8. Debbie Downers have activated
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 08:20 PM
Aug 2020

“This will be the first Democratic convention I’ve misssed since 196O.”

“Biden needs to speak in Wisconsin. I don’t understand the strategy.”


Have read both tonight.

sheshe2

(83,791 posts)
34. I find this convention brilliant and diverse.
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 09:41 PM
Aug 2020

I like it. I like the format.

I am a little behind, had to pause it for a bit.

madaboutharry

(40,212 posts)
9. The republicans at the Democratic convention are speaking to disaffected republicans.
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 08:39 PM
Aug 2020

They are not there to speak to us.

We should be grateful that they are stepping forward. Their decision to do that does not come without political or personal risk to themselves.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
88. agreed - I think it's the political Kiss of Death
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 11:31 AM
Aug 2020

for Kasich - no way he gets the nomination in 2024 or 2028. He may be able to get onto CNN or MSNBC as a political analyst.

Roy Rolling

(6,918 posts)
14. I Only Cried For 20 Minutes
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 08:52 PM
Aug 2020

After I got over the shock I thought, “that’s four more votes”.

I neither approve nor disapprove—I don’t judge. I trust the campaign media people, they’ve done a great job so far with the VP rollout and the first-to-market convention. Four Republicans doesn’t bother me, I’m curious to see if it works.

Which is what makes Democrats a better political party—being liberal/progressive means taking some chances. It’s exciting, diverse, and a crazy cast of characters. It’s our strength, and it works.

Like Will Rogers said, “I don’t belong to an organized political party, I’m a Democrat!”

Bradshaw3

(7,522 posts)
17. Well said
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 08:54 PM
Aug 2020

This is no time for purity policing, pearl clutching and frightened defeatism. Swallow any misgivings and fear and go out there and take it to the traitorous cabal of grifters that compromises the majority of the repub party today. And if any of them see the light, welcome them with open arms and restore our democracy.

Response to spanone (Reply #18)

dflprincess

(28,079 posts)
20. I can only go so far with "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" way of thinking.
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 09:01 PM
Aug 2020

Everyone here used think Kasich was an asshole. He opposes women making their own medical decisions, he supports a balanced budget amendment (to name a couple items). Just because Trump makes him sound sane and just because he doesn't support Trump doesn't mean he isn't still an asshole.

Same with the Lincoln Project - great ads and they may help. But the people behind them are still Republicans.

Not one of these people is willing to admit that Trump was the natural outcome of 40 years of telling the public that "greed is good", "the only person who matters is me" and courting the rascist/sexist/xenophobic/homophobic vote.

So fine, let 4 of them speak at the convention, just so long as we aren't lulled into thinking any of them have seen the light. Think of them as our "useful idiots".


MyOwnPeace

(16,928 posts)
38. Agree with all of that....
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 09:48 PM
Aug 2020

but NOTHING give any of them any right to disrespect or disparage any Democrat, especially one representing us in Congress.

WE are Democrats - and we SUPPORT Democrats and object to any Republican disrespecting ANY of us, no matter what they may be willing to say against any of our opponents.

sheshe2

(83,791 posts)
28. I will take a few dozen republicans voting for us...
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 09:25 PM
Aug 2020

than understand a few dozen 'Democrats' voting against us. A third party vote is a vote for trump.

Thanks.

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
22. and we are missing the reaction that it will cause
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 09:02 PM
Aug 2020

The Shitstain will go out searching for a greater number of Dems for the shitshow next week.

sheshe2

(83,791 posts)
49. How many do you think he will find.
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 10:18 PM
Aug 2020

Sarandon, sure thing. Nina, Brie Brie, Cornie West...Travis Smile is a sure bet, payed 1.5 million for sexual harassment on the job. Goodness knows he and Travis will bond.

Travis and Cornie called Obama a field negro...damn match made in heaven for a racist trump.

Orrex

(63,216 posts)
23. Personally I'd like to see every Republican launched into the sun
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 09:12 PM
Aug 2020

But if we can find an amicable and honest way forward, I guess that's ok, too.

Still, I'm not real fond of "sky is falling" admonitions, because I'd like to see my faith rewarded after ~4 years of this horror, rather than further calls for trust and patience.

sheshe2

(83,791 posts)
31. Yet you do see what is being posted here, correct?
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 09:29 PM
Aug 2020

There are way to many negative 'Democrat' posts.

Indykatie

(3,697 posts)
33. I See Some Whining on Twitter About Repubs Speaking Coming Mostly from Bernie Supporters
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 09:40 PM
Aug 2020

But then some of them are also mad at Bernie because they think he sold out to the "establishment" in supporting Biden. I assume these are the same folks who are saying they won't vote for Biden.

 

GeorgiaPeanut

(360 posts)
48. Yes, the Nina Turner broom closet wing where they can all fit in
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 10:17 PM
Aug 2020

and Susan Sarandon will be bandaging their egos.

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
40. He's not a moderate
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 10:02 PM
Aug 2020

I understand why they have him but I also understand and support the dissent over letting this piece of shit speak at our convention showcasing Democratic values.

sheshe2

(83,791 posts)
68. Welp.
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 11:57 PM
Aug 2020
jcgoldie

63. What does John Kasich speaking at the DNC have to do with Nina Turner?

strawman.

You said above he is a piece of shit. IMHO so is Nina. He votes for a republican and she votes for Jill Stein. At least John is honest and votes for his party.

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
69. Uhm
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 12:01 AM
Aug 2020

Last I checked Nina Turner wasn't on the roster to speak. So I still don't get the relevance.

sheshe2

(83,791 posts)
70. Just making a point of who you would prefer on the roster.
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 12:05 AM
Aug 2020

So, now that we are talking....what do you think of Nina voting for Stein?

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
73. Why do you think I care about Nina Turner?
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 12:10 AM
Aug 2020

I think Nina Turner is a self promoting asshole who's ego seems to have subverted any ideology she claimed to believe in. I can't stand what she did in 2016 and I think she's completely irrelevant now. I still have no idea what she has to do with this debate over John Kasich.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,766 posts)
94. Nothing. You dont need to say who you'd prefer to justify your objection to Kasich.
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 03:50 PM
Aug 2020

And it's funny because the person throwing that into the argument is accusing you of logical fallacy. I'd abort engagement with that BS.

sheshe2

(83,791 posts)
71. Just making a point of who you would prefer on the roster.
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 12:05 AM
Aug 2020

So, now that we are talking....what do you think of Nina voting for Stein?

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
36. I welcome our new Republican allies!
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 09:45 PM
Aug 2020


I swear to God, I've never see so much sanctimonious hand-wringing and worry over absolutely NOTHING. We're not MARRYING them for Pete's sake. We're accepting their help... and we need all the help we can get.

CousinIT

(9,247 posts)
44. I'm not bothered by Republicans who support Biden. Not sure why anyone is. The message is UNITY.
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 10:08 PM
Aug 2020

We can NOT AFFORD any less right now to defeat Trump.

I don't like Republicans and won't vote for one. Never have. Probably never will. But at this point in time, if they want to support our candidate instead of Trump, who can blame them? I damn sure won't. I welcome them to our big tent and to our convention.

NO TIME for division. NO time for pettiness. Just STOP. We can not do that. Not now. OUR LIVES and the Democratic Republic itself is at stake in this election. And somebody wants to grouse about a few Republicans joining us to save ourselves and our country? I'm fine with that.

Damn people. Grok a freaking clue. And you know, grow up.

 

GeorgiaPeanut

(360 posts)
47. The opposition to and sneering of Republicans speaking at our convention
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 10:14 PM
Aug 2020

comes mainly from a small segment of progressives of a certain persuasion. Having Republicans and Centrist Independents supporting Biden pulverizes their ability to extort concessions under a threat of "if we don't get our way, we will stay home or vote third party.". It weakens them considerably and they lament not having that power over the Democratic party as a whole.

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
51. Thats a bunch of bullshit
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 10:26 PM
Aug 2020

I haven't seen a single person threatening to vote third party or stay home. What complete nonsense. "Progressives of a certain persuasion?" You mean like people who believe strongly in values like women's rights and in expressing dissent over the issue of having lifelong right wing zealots speak at the DNC? Is that the persuasion you speak of? Or what is it exactly?

sheshe2

(83,791 posts)
54. Who knows how people are thinking this time around?
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 10:42 PM
Aug 2020

Did you know how they were thinking in 2016?

Did you know that Sarandon. Nina and Brie Brie voted third party. Did you know that someone said that it didn't matter who they voted for. It only mattered that they voted. These were supposed Democrats. Period.

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
56. My point is just...
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 10:49 PM
Aug 2020

In the Democratic Party that I've voted for my entire life and believe in strongly, a person can and should be able to express dissent over having a person with the decidedly misogynistic record of John Kasich stand up there and speak "for us."

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
61. Sure isn't
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 11:36 PM
Aug 2020

And I haven't heard a single person say that they think this reflects on Joe Biden or any other Democrat who is. You are the person who made the OP about "sewing division". Well if saying John Kasich is a misogynistic asshole who has no business speaking at the DNC is that then wtf ever.

George II

(67,782 posts)
87. Nina Turner and Cornel West, with others, already have a "People's Convention" scheduled....
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 11:25 AM
Aug 2020

....in two weeks, at which they intend to announce that they're starting a new party.

https://peoplesparty.org/the-peoples-convention/

If that's not evidence enough, I don't know what is.

sheshe2

(83,791 posts)
89. Oh boy...
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 11:53 AM
Aug 2020

Thanks for the link, I think. So in 2024 they’re saying they’re gonna be poised to take over Congress and the White House?!

Sure they will.

George II

(67,782 posts)
90. Yes, to be exact:
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 11:55 AM
Aug 2020
“Four years from now, at the People’s Convention of 2024, when The People’s Party stands poised to win Congress and the White House, we will look back and celebrate..."


sheshe2

(83,791 posts)
91. Thanks for posting that paragraph.
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 11:59 AM
Aug 2020

I was going to but I’m on my phone and I have no clue if that could be done.

Lol 😝 I haven’t checked out JPR in a while… They must be very excited over there.🤣

 

GeorgiaPeanut

(360 posts)
57. Every progressive believes in a woman's right to choose and women's equality
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 11:00 PM
Aug 2020

Not just the small faction.

Sewa

(1,256 posts)
65. Thank you,
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 11:47 PM
Aug 2020

Why can’t people express their opinion without being called a traitor to the party or a troll. There is no proof these Republicans speaking help Biden. It seems like wishful thinking.

sheshe2

(83,791 posts)
80. Well, Sewa
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 01:00 AM
Aug 2020
Sewa (439 posts)

65. Thank you,

Why can’t people express their opinion without being called a traitor to the party or a troll. There is no proof these Republicans speaking help Biden. It seems like wishful thinking.


Guess that cuts, Sewa.

George II

(67,782 posts)
86. If you have any doubt, below is a DIRECT quote from Nina Turner...
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 10:55 AM
Aug 2020

...to a reporter for The Atlantic. Do you think SHE not going to vote third party as she did in 2016 or will she stay home?

“It’s like saying to somebody, ‘You have a bowl of shit in front of you, and all you’ve got to do is eat half of it instead of the whole thing.’ It’s still shit.”


https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/07/how-trump-could-win-reelection/612205/

And how about this, she and Cornel West have organized a so-called "People's Convention" in two weeks, at which they will make a decision on organizing a new party (as in "third party&quot

https://peoplesparty.org/the-peoples-convention/
 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
67. Bullshit
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 11:49 PM
Aug 2020

I supported Klobuchar in the primaries. I guess I'm a far lefty because I don't give a fuck what John Kasich thinks.

I remember everything these assholes said about us during the Clinton years and when Dumbya was screwing the pooch calling us unpatriotic anti-Americans.

I don't give a flying fuck that they're now not welcome in their own party because they are "polite white nationalists". They can go cry to their old buddy Newt Gingrich about it. He's the one who started what Trump finished.

Crunchy Frog

(26,587 posts)
53. I thought that segment was extremely well done, and completely appropriate.
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 10:41 PM
Aug 2020

This is an election that transcends party and traditional partisanship. It's right that we should be reaching out to reasonable Republicans. Nothing at all wrong with reaching out a little.

Trueblue Texan

(2,430 posts)
55. Well, it does show...
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 10:44 PM
Aug 2020

...we are willing to work together and hear all perspectives. That makes us strong, not weak.

qwlauren35

(6,148 posts)
60. It felt right to me.
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 11:34 PM
Aug 2020

I don't hate Republicans. Sometimes I feel like the only person on DU that doesn't.

Seeing all of those people, those PROUD REPUBLICANS endorsing Biden. That felt good. It gave me hope.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
66. Exactly she! As I said on another thread--TWO MILLION Ohioans
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 11:48 PM
Aug 2020

voted for Kasich...which is a hell of a lot more than 24,000 votes.

That kind of access and exposure is what this is about, and it was a great idea.

sheshe2

(83,791 posts)
79. I know his background.
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 12:53 AM
Aug 2020

He has sucked big time.

If he can change some of those 2 million votes I would be forever grateful to be rid of trump.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
104. Yes, agreed about him.
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 10:45 PM
Aug 2020

If it’s so urgent and necessary to have Bernie appear to speak, it doesn’t seem hard for those referenced in the OP to see that a Republican speaking to his supporters on behalf of Biden is also okay. Great thread!

liberaltrucker

(9,129 posts)
74. The enemy of my enemy is my temporary ally
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 12:29 AM
Aug 2020

Welcome their support right now, but prepare
to fight them in the future, should it be necessary
(hint: it will).

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
78. That they could find Republicans willing to put country over party amazes me.
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 12:46 AM
Aug 2020

It's a shame our election is being corrupted by Trump and his lackeys. With Trump cheating and trying to keep people from getting their votes to the places to be counted like he is, we need all the extra votes we can get. It is going to take anyone we can get and ALL of us to get enough votes to the right places to be counted this time around.

MissMillie

(38,562 posts)
85. I like the "country before party theme"
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 10:08 AM
Aug 2020

And frankly I think they do themselves immeasurable good by looking like heroes and getting rid of Trump.

Right now they look like the 30% that can't be bothered to notice that there's a problem

GoneOffShore

(17,340 posts)
97. Tick Tock indeed! Well said.
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 04:08 PM
Aug 2020
Let's try to get it right by all working together. Not much time left.


Too fecking right!
 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
99. Interesting approach. Start by criticizing other Dems who think differently
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 04:54 PM
Aug 2020

then plead for working together.

Griefbird

(96 posts)
100. This wasn't the issue.
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 05:11 PM
Aug 2020

Wasn't the problem with Kasich that he decided to tell Democrats that the progressives in the party don't represent the party? I think that AOC's response that he doesn't get to tell Democrats who represents the party is correct. While I don't see that many progressives posting here on DU, progressives still seem to advocate policies that most Americans want. I understand that you might lift up a regressive Republican governor who plans to vote with Democrats for president as a way to get other Republicans to vote against Trump, but is it worth it to create a rift between progressive Democrats and Third Way Democrats in order to make your point? You disparage progressives that abandon the party as if they represent all progressives. They don't, but I've seen enough Bernie bashing on this site to convince me that you not only take progressive votes for granted; you have to abuse them as well.

abakan

(1,819 posts)
102. Talk is cheap...
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 05:31 PM
Aug 2020

And we'll never know who they voted for. Nope don't trust them not now not ever.
They stood by for three and a half years as he destroyed this country and killed 180,000
people. Nope I judge them by their actions and not their words.

AC_Mem

(1,979 posts)
103. People need to calm down
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 07:45 PM
Aug 2020

It probably took allot for them to come forth and do this and, if it opens up the eyes of on-the-fence republicans to vote for Joe, then it is worth it. I'm tired of the division. I wish the country was 100% democrat but the reality is that it is much more evenly matched than I can even imagine. We need such an overwhelming win that there is absolutely no doubt what the majority of this country wants as our path forward. I believe if we can look to the positive and get out the vote, we will win this thing and start the healing of the UNITED States of America.

Annette/Florida

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