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democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 11:46 PM Aug 2020

Why are the roll call votes out of whack with the primary results?

For example, I don't think Biden was even viable in Iowa, but he got more votes tonight. Is that due to superdelegates (I thought they can't vote on the first ballot), did Bernie release his delegates and give them the choice the way Hillary did in 2008, or were the delegates for the other candidates all allocated to Biden?

Note: this is just a question, not sour grapes. I was for Warren in the primaries and she wasn't even nominated tonight. I'm just a junkie for this stuff.

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Why are the roll call votes out of whack with the primary results? (Original Post) democrattotheend Aug 2020 OP
2 components... brooklynite Aug 2020 #1
I thought superdelegates weren't voting on the first ballot? democrattotheend Aug 2020 #2
Superdelegates didn't vote. lapucelle Aug 2020 #5
Ah, ok. Didn't know about the 300 delegate rule. democrattotheend Aug 2020 #8
Superdelegates didn't vote. N/T lapucelle Aug 2020 #4
Bernie didn't release his delegates Stinky The Clown Aug 2020 #3
Could he have even done so under the new rules? democrattotheend Aug 2020 #9
Original delegate counts on TV are always preliminary... Wounded Bear Aug 2020 #6
Biden got way more delegates in some states than the primary results democrattotheend Aug 2020 #7
Candidates can release their delegates. lapucelle Aug 2020 #10
Because the precinct caucuses were just the start SharonClark Aug 2020 #11

brooklynite

(94,718 posts)
1. 2 components...
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 11:48 PM
Aug 2020

Super delegates

Delegates release by candidates (Buttigieg, Warren, Bloomberg, Klobuchar) who withdrew.

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
2. I thought superdelegates weren't voting on the first ballot?
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 11:51 PM
Aug 2020

I thought that was a rule change this year, and it seems like the number of delegates per state is smaller than in the past. I assumed that was because the superdelegates weren't voting on the first ballot? Or did that change once Bernie dropped out?

I was kind of disappointed that the other candidates who won delegates chose not to be placed into nomination. It would have been fun to watch people cast votes for all of the fine candidates we had.

lapucelle

(18,308 posts)
5. Superdelegates didn't vote.
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 12:25 AM
Aug 2020

A candidate needed a minimum of 300 delegates to submit the paper work to have his/her name placed in nomination.

He was the only other candidate who had the requisite delegates, and he submitted the paper work.

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
8. Ah, ok. Didn't know about the 300 delegate rule.
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 12:32 AM
Aug 2020

That explains why Warren, Buttigieg, Klobuchar and Bloomberg weren't nominated, I guess? Thanks for clarifying.

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
9. Could he have even done so under the new rules?
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 12:33 AM
Aug 2020

I thought under the new rules delegates had to stick with the candidate they were pledged for on the first ballot.

Wounded Bear

(58,698 posts)
6. Original delegate counts on TV are always preliminary...
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 12:28 AM
Aug 2020

some finagling of numbers always happens once they get all the votes in.

I've never heard it was a problem, just a shift of a few delegates here or there.

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
7. Biden got way more delegates in some states than the primary results
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 12:30 AM
Aug 2020

He got the majority of delegates from states like New Hampshire where he wasn't even viable statewide. But it seems that was because delegates for the other candidates who chose not to be placed into nomination voted for him?

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
11. Because the precinct caucuses were just the start
Wed Aug 19, 2020, 01:02 AM
Aug 2020

of the process. After that came the county, district, and state conventions, during which candidates dropped out and delegates realigned,

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